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Post#1161 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:10 am

peZt wrote:I fell in love with his game at the u19 wc but completely forgot about him! He's as talented as anyone in this draft and I'm really wondering how he is on nobodys draft radar after showcasing his talent in the summer.

I'm certain he'll be a top 3 pick at the end of the season, probably even the #1 pick this draft has been longing for


I mean, there's a reason why I've been saying this is arguably the best international class ever and not a "terrible" or "weakest" draft class. I don't see what the difference is if the usual high school freshmen are replaced by international players. It's still the same amount of talent at the end of the day it's just coming from outside the country. He's been on most radars it just wasn't clear what his status was and if he'd even be in this class. I think that's been put to bed. He's basically Porzingis 2.0 and should be considered a top 5 lock at this point. 7'2" guys that can shoot, block shots and are long and athletic don't grow on trees. There's like a handful in the world. Just because he would vault to #1 in this draft class if he stays healthy and balls out like this does not mean the class is weak. He's just a unicorn. If these other international kids and the Ignite kids were playing in the NCAA they'd light it up too.
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Post#1162 » by Hal14 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:24 pm

BigGargamel wrote:LOL that one game was enough to catapult him ahead of any other center in the NCAA and into the top ten.

EMG518 wrote:Just take him #1, this draft is terrible.

Woah, slow down here ya'll.

It's just ONE game. A game where he only had 12 points - and was facing a bad Georgia team. Bradshaw had that one really good game earlier in the season and no one is saying to take him no. 1 pick.

Keep in mind, Ivisic is 20 and will turn 21 just a few weeks after the draft so that does limit his ceiling a bit..
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Post#1163 » by EMG518 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:27 pm

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BigGargamel wrote:LOL that one game was enough to catapult him ahead of any other center in the NCAA and into the top ten.

EMG518 wrote:Just take him #1, this draft is terrible.

Woah, slow down here ya'll.

It's just ONE game. A game where he only had 12 points. Bradshaw had that one really good game earlier in the season and no one is saying to take him no. 1 pick.

Keep in mind, Ivisic is 20 and will turn 21 just a few weeks after the draft so that does limit his ceiling a bit..



The shot looks great, he has a feel for the game, can pass, is mobile enough with size and provides rim protection, and this draft is terrible.

Who are you taking #1 right now?
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Post#1164 » by BigGargamel » Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:14 pm

Not sure what I said that was so outlandish. I didn't say #1 overall, I said top ten. And I said ahead of any other NCAA center (Filipowski, Ware, Clingan).

Euro prospects had him ranked 5 and as a four star. He didn't come out of nowhere.

https://eurospects.com/2003-generation-ranking/
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Post#1165 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:48 pm

I forgot about Ivisic, I mean he was eligible for 2022 draft initially then got a foot injury. I forget why he didn't go in 2023 draft.
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Post#1166 » by Hal14 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:41 pm

ItsDanger wrote:I forgot about Ivisic, I mean he was eligible for 2022 draft initially then got a foot injury. I forget why he didn't go in 2023 draft.

Because he wasn't that good of a prospect.

He was projected to *maybe* go in the 2nd round. And even if he got drafted 2nd round, he'd probably be stashed overseas by the team that drafted him (like other overseas bigs like Khalifa Diop, Tristan Vukcevic, James Nnaji, Ismael Kamagate, etc.)

A lot of these overseas guys don't really like being stashed. They know that often times the NBA team just leaves them over there for a long time, not really prioritizing their development..

Look at Vasilije Micic. He was stashed overseas for like 8 years before finally coming over.
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Post#1167 » by BlazersBroncos » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:42 pm

I had a Top-5 grade on Ivisic entering the season and looks like that will come true.

Ivisic and Furpy are changing this draft IMO. Still not great but those 2 make it WAY more interesting.
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Post#1168 » by Hal14 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:47 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Not sure what I said that was so outlandish. I didn't say #1 overall, I said top ten. And I said ahead of any other NCAA center (Filipowski, Ware, Clingan).

Euro prospects had him ranked 5 and as a four star. He didn't come out of nowhere.

https://eurospects.com/2003-generation-ranking/

It's still just 1 game, vs a bad Georgia team. What if he starts facing some real teams and averages 2 PPG and 2 RPG over his next 5 games, on 20% from 3?

Since when do 4 star prospects go number 1 in the draft? Also, since when do guys who are 20 (and turn 21 just a fe weeks after the draft) go number 1?
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Post#1169 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:06 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Not sure what I said that was so outlandish. I didn't say #1 overall, I said top ten. And I said ahead of any other NCAA center (Filipowski, Ware, Clingan).

Euro prospects had him ranked 5 and as a four star. He didn't come out of nowhere.

https://eurospects.com/2003-generation-ranking/


lol yea, it's a terrible C class, and I don't even consider Flip a C really...its not gonna take much to put him #1 at center.
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Post#1170 » by mattao313 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:31 pm

No way is Ivisic 7'3 looks at most 7'

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Post#1171 » by Chi town » Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:06 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I had a Top-5 grade on Ivisic entering the season and looks like that will come true.

Ivisic and Furpy are changing this draft IMO. Still not great but those 2 make it WAY more interesting.


They sure do. Lottery looks a lot better with them in it.

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Post#1172 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:22 am

Are wooga poplar and kyshon George really lotto prospects? What’s so special about either? I’ve seen Miami play and they look like normal college players to me
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Post#1173 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:04 am

azcatz11 wrote:Are wooga poplar and kyshon George really lotto prospects? What’s so special about either? I’ve seen Miami play and they look like normal college players to me

George looks like he might be an interesting playmaking wing with some development, he reminds me a little of early career Joe Ingles. Poplar I don't particularly see the appeal of.
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Post#1174 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:23 pm

it's kinda crazy how average (and that might be kind) justin edwards is. gotta be the biggest bust of the frosh class.
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Post#1175 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:55 pm

BigGargamel wrote:Maybe it's my Colorado bias but I'd take Cody Williams over any other college freshman right now. Just wish he wasn't dealing with some stupid nagging injuries. I think he has the most upside and NBA friendly game. Should wind up as a top five pick.


Looks like you were onto something. He's now the favorite to go #1 overall
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Post#1176 » by BigGargamel » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:46 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Are wooga poplar and kyshon George really lotto prospects? What’s so special about either? I’ve seen Miami play and they look like normal college players to me


LOL I went to nbadraft.net for the first time in months and saw both of these guys in the top 10. I get people like to be different but that site tries soooooooooooooooo hard. Can't believe they've been around for as long as they have.
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Post#1177 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:48 pm

BigGargamel wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Are wooga poplar and kyshon George really lotto prospects? What’s so special about either? I’ve seen Miami play and they look like normal college players to me


LOL I went to nbadraft.net for the first time in months and saw both of these guys in the top 10. I get people like to be different but that site tries soooooooooooooooo hard. Can't believe they've been around for as long as they have.


That’s where I saw that. I wasn’t sure if it was a strong opinion about them…I was shocked
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Post#1178 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:02 pm

Fwiw I have George on my 2024 watch list for my terrible mock draft, but if he declared I'd think about him starting in the teens. I think he stands out as a heady player from the two games I've seen him in (this is why my mock is bad, not much data!). But I also have three archetypes that I tend to overvalue: big guards that rebound, big slow wings that can pass, and one dimensional shooters.
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Post#1179 » by TheSuzerain » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:02 am

Good Furphy game.

Curious on his stock though as none of it is self-creation.

A bunch of spot ups, transition, cuts, and hustle.
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Post#1180 » by The-Power » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:43 pm

Am I the only one who really likes Pelle Larsson? He's an older player and not someone with super high usage but I have him as a clear FRP and yet a bunch of mock drafts or big boards don't even have him in their top 60. That makes no sense to me at all.

We're talking about someone with a career-TS of 63%, shooting 40% on 3s and 84% from the line. He can play off the ball and create on the ball a bit, is a solid passer and a fine defender in college at around 6'5. He's a SG/SF in the NBA who should be easy to plug and play. Not sure he's an NBA starter down the road (possible) but I do see him as a pretty safe bet to be a rotation player on a playoff team.

Am I really alone on this one?

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