2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Raps in 4]

Looking at win totals based on betting odds, the raps are predicted to finished 7th worst with ~ 31 wins.

Odds are the spurs end up making the pick.

Watching Pop draft a running mate for Wemby with our pick while we do Scottie dirty by getting him no help is going to suck.

[Bruin]

Looking at win totals based on betting odds, the raps are predicted to finished 7th worst with ~ 31 wins.

Odds are the spurs end up making the pick.

Gonna be such a terrible look when Spurs draft 7th.
At least Masai owned up to it but sheesh, what a nightmare situation that's about to play out.

Hopefully the lottery balls go in our favor again.

In the past some teams have been rewarded for trading away or losing their star. Cavs getting Kyrie, NOLA getting Zion

Maybe we can get similar luck with Siakam gone

[Jerry Lucas]

Masai 1st rounders post Bruno mistake:
-Delon 8.7 oBPM vs 6.9 dBPM and.182 oWS/40 vs .106 dWS/40
-Poeltl 7.6 oBPM vs 2.8 dBPM and .179 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Siakam 5.5 oBPM vs 2.7 dBPM and .150 oWS/40 vs .116 dWS/40
-OG 5.4 oBPM vs 3.5 dBPM and .109 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Malachi 7.6 oBPM vs 4.1 dBPM and .183 oWS/40 vs .093 dWS/40
-Scottie 4.3 oBPM vs 3.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .067 dWS/40
-Koloko 5.2 oBPM vs 5.3 dBPM and .145 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (33rd overall so I'm gonna say pseudo 1st)
-Gradey 4.9 oBPM vs 2.9 dBPM and .095 oWS/40 vs .071 dWS/40

With any NCAA prospect you look at in the range of the Raptors FRPs and early 2nd, if defense is clearly their calling card over offense they are not a Masai-type pick.

Below is a list of 2024 NCAA prospects who are currently performing like Masai-type FRPs (minimum 7.5 BPM and .160 WS/40 for freshmen and sophomores, minimum 10 BPM and .190 WS/40 for juniors, seniors must be complete standouts on both ends) with their current ESPN mock ranking included:

-Ja'Kobe Walter 6.6 oBPM vs 2.0 dBPM and .151 oWS/40 vs .060 dWS/40 (Baylor Freshman 6'5" SG, mocked #4)
-Kyle Filipowski 8.8 oBPM vs 4.2 dBPM and .156 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (Duke Sophomore 7'0" PF/C, mocked #8)
-Reed Sheppard 7.8 oBPM vs 5.9 dBPM and .159 oWS/40 vs .088 dWS/40 (Kentucky Freshman 6'3" combo G, mocked #12)
-Kel'el Ware 4.8 oBPM vs 2.6 dBPM and .107 oWS/40 vs .069 dWS/40 (Indiana Sophomore 7'0" C, mocked #24)
-Alex Karaban 6.8 oBPM vs 2.3 dBPM and .147 oWS/40 vs .080 dWS/40 (UConn Sophomore 6'8" F, mocked #49)
-DaRon Holmes 8.3 oBPM vs 3.7 dBPM and .181 oWS/40 vs .083 dWS/40 (Dayton Junior 6'10" PF, unranked)
-Kwame Evans 3.6 oBPM vs 4.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .091 dWS/40 (Oregon Freshman 6'9" PF, unranked)

I omitted Donovan Clingan and Yves Missi for now because they are both only 20 MPG players with their college teams. Masai doesn't take college players who play that little. I will also be keeping an eye on Zvonimir Ivisic after his eye popping Kentucky debut.

[Kevin Willis]

Coulibaly last year…Salaun and Risacher this year. These French wings know how to blow up as the season progresses.

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Another top 4 only pick

Should be noted this is the U21 league. Skills are still evident.

This is the pro league. Not the U21 league. He’s playing with grown men

Like Coulibaly last year he has been playing with both the top division team and the U21 team.

The highlights from this game was the U21 league, I am fairly certain. His game log on proballers has the league listed as (2) which is a step down. It’s like when NBA players play in GLeague, the league is listed as (2).

Correct. Also Bilal had a wingspan over 7'2", close to Rupert. That's how not good this year's draft is, Risacher might be good as Rupert. Maybe not. But he's not comparable to Bilal. Still he would be a good get in our lower picks.

[ArthurVandelay]

This is the pro league. Not the U21 league. He’s playing with grown men

Like Coulibaly last year he has been playing with both the top division team and the U21 team.

The highlights from this game was the U21 league, I am fairly certain. His game log on proballers has the league listed as (2) which is a step down. It’s like when NBA players play in GLeague, the league is listed as (2).

Correct. Also Bilal had a wingspan over 7'2", close to Rupert. That's how not good this year's draft is, Risacher might be good as Rupert. Maybe not. But he's not comparable to Bilal. Still he would be a good get in our lower picks.

I think Risacher goes too 6

Coulibaly a much better defender and more active but Risacher is taller and more skilled.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I wouldn’t be disapppointed with Risacher…or Salaun.

[Kevin Willis]

For reference here is how the top 10 is doing so far this year. Very few in this draft are as good Thompson twins or even Bilal so we will be very fortunate if we can select either a rotational player or a strong role player, ie. rebounder, defender, 3pt shooter.

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[AbC?]

Take Cody Williams if he’s available and pray he has a similar development arc as his brother.

[Kevin Willis]

Like Coulibaly last year he has been playing with both the top division team and the U21 team.

The highlights from this game was the U21 league, I am fairly certain. His game log on proballers has the league listed as (2) which is a step down. It’s like when NBA players play in GLeague, the league is listed as (2).

Correct. Also Bilal had a wingspan over 7'2", close to Rupert. That's how not good this year's draft is, Risacher might be good as Rupert. Maybe not. But he's not comparable to Bilal. Still he would be a good get in our lower picks.

I think Risacher goes too 6

Coulibaly a much better defender and more active but Risacher is taller and more skilled.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I wouldn’t be disapppointed with Risacher…or Salaun.

Possibly. This draft is kind of all over the place. Looking into it some players that are slotted as top 10 in one mock draft is end of 1st in another. Sarr is the top draft in one and 10 in another - so you could be right. I wouldn't mind Risacher either but we can possibly get 6 and we have late first and the way it is he might be available in both spots depending on the mock draft.

[alpngso]

So is the consensus basically not many tops guys worth lottery pick this year but after 20, it's probably same as previous years?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Take Cody Williams if he’s available and pray he has a similar development arc as his brother.

They don’t play a similar style, but Cody would be a nice pick. Adama Bal on Santa Clara is another guy from that school who’s going to get drafted as well. For the third year in a row, and the last 2 were Jalen Williams and Podz.

Adama’s middle name is also Alpha so whoever takes him needs to start the Alpha Ball promotions ASAP

[TimeForChange]

Masai 1st rounders post Bruno mistake:
-Delon 8.7 oBPM vs 6.9 dBPM and.182 oWS/40 vs .106 dWS/40
-Poeltl 7.6 oBPM vs 2.8 dBPM and .179 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Siakam 5.5 oBPM vs 2.7 dBPM and .150 oWS/40 vs .116 dWS/40
-OG 5.4 oBPM vs 3.5 dBPM and .109 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Malachi 7.6 oBPM vs 4.1 dBPM and .183 oWS/40 vs .093 dWS/40
-Scottie 4.3 oBPM vs 3.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .067 dWS/40
-Koloko 5.2 oBPM vs 5.3 dBPM and .145 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (33rd overall so I'm gonna say pseudo 1st)
-Gradey 4.9 oBPM vs 2.9 dBPM and .095 oWS/40 vs .071 dWS/40

With any NCAA prospect you look at in the range of the Raptors FRPs and early 2nd, if defense is clearly their calling card over offense they are not a Masai-type pick.

Below is a list of 2024 NCAA prospects who are currently performing like Masai-type FRPs (minimum 7.5 BPM and .160 WS/40 for freshmen and sophomores, minimum 10 BPM and .190 WS/40 for juniors, seniors must be complete standouts on both ends) with their current ESPN mock ranking included:

-Ja'Kobe Walter 6.6 oBPM vs 2.0 dBPM and .151 oWS/40 vs .060 dWS/40 (Baylor Freshman 6'5" SG, mocked #4)
-Kyle Filipowski 8.8 oBPM vs 4.2 dBPM and .156 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (Duke Sophomore 7'0" PF/C, mocked #8)
-Reed Sheppard 7.8 oBPM vs 5.9 dBPM and .159 oWS/40 vs .088 dWS/40 (Kentucky Freshman 6'3" combo G, mocked #12)
-Kel'el Ware 4.8 oBPM vs 2.6 dBPM and .107 oWS/40 vs .069 dWS/40 (Indiana Sophomore 7'0" C, mocked #24)
-Alex Karaban 6.8 oBPM vs 2.3 dBPM and .147 oWS/40 vs .080 dWS/40 (UConn Sophomore 6'8" F, mocked #49)
-DaRon Holmes 8.3 oBPM vs 3.7 dBPM and .181 oWS/40 vs .083 dWS/40 (Dayton Junior 6'10" PF, unranked)
-Kwame Evans 3.6 oBPM vs 4.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .091 dWS/40 (Oregon Freshman 6'9" PF, unranked)

I omitted Donovan Clingan and Yves Missi for now because they are both only 20 MPG players with their college teams. Masai doesn't take college players who play that little. I will also be keeping an eye on Zvonimir Ivisic after his eye popping Kentucky debut.

I'm a big fan of Kel'el

[BoyzNTheHood]

Masai 1st rounders post Bruno mistake:
-Delon 8.7 oBPM vs 6.9 dBPM and.182 oWS/40 vs .106 dWS/40
-Poeltl 7.6 oBPM vs 2.8 dBPM and .179 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Siakam 5.5 oBPM vs 2.7 dBPM and .150 oWS/40 vs .116 dWS/40
-OG 5.4 oBPM vs 3.5 dBPM and .109 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Malachi 7.6 oBPM vs 4.1 dBPM and .183 oWS/40 vs .093 dWS/40
-Scottie 4.3 oBPM vs 3.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .067 dWS/40
-Koloko 5.2 oBPM vs 5.3 dBPM and .145 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (33rd overall so I'm gonna say pseudo 1st)
-Gradey 4.9 oBPM vs 2.9 dBPM and .095 oWS/40 vs .071 dWS/40

With any NCAA prospect you look at in the range of the Raptors FRPs and early 2nd, if defense is clearly their calling card over offense they are not a Masai-type pick.

Below is a list of 2024 NCAA prospects who are currently performing like Masai-type FRPs (minimum 7.5 BPM and .160 WS/40 for freshmen and sophomores, minimum 10 BPM and .190 WS/40 for juniors, seniors must be complete standouts on both ends) with their current ESPN mock ranking included:

-Ja'Kobe Walter 6.6 oBPM vs 2.0 dBPM and .151 oWS/40 vs .060 dWS/40 (Baylor Freshman 6'5" SG, mocked #4)
-Kyle Filipowski 8.8 oBPM vs 4.2 dBPM and .156 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (Duke Sophomore 7'0" PF/C, mocked #8)
-Reed Sheppard 7.8 oBPM vs 5.9 dBPM and .159 oWS/40 vs .088 dWS/40 (Kentucky Freshman 6'3" combo G, mocked #12)
-Kel'el Ware 4.8 oBPM vs 2.6 dBPM and .107 oWS/40 vs .069 dWS/40 (Indiana Sophomore 7'0" C, mocked #24)
-Alex Karaban 6.8 oBPM vs 2.3 dBPM and .147 oWS/40 vs .080 dWS/40 (UConn Sophomore 6'8" F, mocked #49)
-DaRon Holmes 8.3 oBPM vs 3.7 dBPM and .181 oWS/40 vs .083 dWS/40 (Dayton Junior 6'10" PF, unranked)
-Kwame Evans 3.6 oBPM vs 4.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .091 dWS/40 (Oregon Freshman 6'9" PF, unranked)

I omitted Donovan Clingan and Yves Missi for now because they are both only 20 MPG players with their college teams. Masai doesn't take college players who play that little. I will also be keeping an eye on Zvonimir Ivisic after his eye popping Kentucky debut.

I'm a big fan of Kel'el

Live look at how Scottie and Kel’el fit together:

[DG88]

Masai 1st rounders post Bruno mistake:
-Delon 8.7 oBPM vs 6.9 dBPM and.182 oWS/40 vs .106 dWS/40
-Poeltl 7.6 oBPM vs 2.8 dBPM and .179 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Siakam 5.5 oBPM vs 2.7 dBPM and .150 oWS/40 vs .116 dWS/40
-OG 5.4 oBPM vs 3.5 dBPM and .109 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Malachi 7.6 oBPM vs 4.1 dBPM and .183 oWS/40 vs .093 dWS/40
-Scottie 4.3 oBPM vs 3.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .067 dWS/40
-Koloko 5.2 oBPM vs 5.3 dBPM and .145 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (33rd overall so I'm gonna say pseudo 1st)
-Gradey 4.9 oBPM vs 2.9 dBPM and .095 oWS/40 vs .071 dWS/40

With any NCAA prospect you look at in the range of the Raptors FRPs and early 2nd, if defense is clearly their calling card over offense they are not a Masai-type pick.

Below is a list of 2024 NCAA prospects who are currently performing like Masai-type FRPs (minimum 7.5 BPM and .160 WS/40 for freshmen and sophomores, minimum 10 BPM and .190 WS/40 for juniors, seniors must be complete standouts on both ends) with their current ESPN mock ranking included:

-Ja'Kobe Walter 6.6 oBPM vs 2.0 dBPM and .151 oWS/40 vs .060 dWS/40 (Baylor Freshman 6'5" SG, mocked #4)
-Kyle Filipowski 8.8 oBPM vs 4.2 dBPM and .156 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (Duke Sophomore 7'0" PF/C, mocked #8)
-Reed Sheppard 7.8 oBPM vs 5.9 dBPM and .159 oWS/40 vs .088 dWS/40 (Kentucky Freshman 6'3" combo G, mocked #12)
-Kel'el Ware 4.8 oBPM vs 2.6 dBPM and .107 oWS/40 vs .069 dWS/40 (Indiana Sophomore 7'0" C, mocked #24)
-Alex Karaban 6.8 oBPM vs 2.3 dBPM and .147 oWS/40 vs .080 dWS/40 (UConn Sophomore 6'8" F, mocked #49)
-DaRon Holmes 8.3 oBPM vs 3.7 dBPM and .181 oWS/40 vs .083 dWS/40 (Dayton Junior 6'10" PF, unranked)
-Kwame Evans 3.6 oBPM vs 4.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .091 dWS/40 (Oregon Freshman 6'9" PF, unranked)

I omitted Donovan Clingan and Yves Missi for now because they are both only 20 MPG players with their college teams. Masai doesn't take college players who play that little. I will also be keeping an eye on Zvonimir Ivisic after his eye popping Kentucky debut.

I'm a big fan of Kel'el

He's one player I'm looking at for the first IND pick. He matches the type of C that would work for what we do offensively. Need to see how he is defensively.

[dozo]

Looking at win totals based on betting odds, the raps are predicted to finished 7th worst with ~ 31 wins.

Odds are the spurs end up making the pick.

Gonna be such a terrible look when Spurs draft 7th.
At least Masai owned up to it but sheesh, what a nightmare situation that's about to play out.

Hopefully the lottery balls go in our favor again.

In the past some teams have been rewarded for trading away or losing their star. Cavs getting Kyrie, NOLA getting Zion

Maybe we can get similar luck with Siakam gone

This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Gonna be such a terrible look when Spurs draft 7th.
At least Masai owned up to it but sheesh, what a nightmare situation that's about to play out.

Hopefully the lottery balls go in our favor again.

In the past some teams have been rewarded for trading away or losing their star. Cavs getting Kyrie, NOLA getting Zion

Maybe we can get similar luck with Siakam gone

This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

[dozo]

In the past some teams have been rewarded for trading away or losing their star. Cavs getting Kyrie, NOLA getting Zion

Maybe we can get similar luck with Siakam gone

This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

Imho doing so helps the parody that Silver is clamoring for in league.

[Yallbecrazy]

In the past some teams have been rewarded for trading away or losing their star. Cavs getting Kyrie, NOLA getting Zion

Maybe we can get similar luck with Siakam gone

This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

I guess Topic is still the top player in this class and a position of need as Quickley is more of a 2 than a 1.

[BoyzNTheHood]

This is the perfect draft for the NBA to throw the Raptors a bone. No clear #1 selection, lottery has many international players with little to no fan fare in North America.

FFS...The Spurs drafted their 3rd HOF C/PF last year.

Please throw us the #1 pick in this draft. That would be epic

I guess Topic is still the top player in this class and a position of need as Quickley is more of a 2 than a 1.

And putting Scottie in more of a position to be a scorer is advantageous to us as well, so getting another big passer helps us do that.

[720]

If we stay at 7 those are the same odds we had during the Barnes year when we moved up. Will the basketball gods bless us twice? Hope so.

[Jerry Lucas]

Masai 1st rounders post Bruno mistake:
-Delon 8.7 oBPM vs 6.9 dBPM and.182 oWS/40 vs .106 dWS/40
-Poeltl 7.6 oBPM vs 2.8 dBPM and .179 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Siakam 5.5 oBPM vs 2.7 dBPM and .150 oWS/40 vs .116 dWS/40
-OG 5.4 oBPM vs 3.5 dBPM and .109 oWS/40 vs .070 dWS/40
-Malachi 7.6 oBPM vs 4.1 dBPM and .183 oWS/40 vs .093 dWS/40
-Scottie 4.3 oBPM vs 3.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .067 dWS/40
-Koloko 5.2 oBPM vs 5.3 dBPM and .145 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (33rd overall so I'm gonna say pseudo 1st)
-Gradey 4.9 oBPM vs 2.9 dBPM and .095 oWS/40 vs .071 dWS/40

With any NCAA prospect you look at in the range of the Raptors FRPs and early 2nd, if defense is clearly their calling card over offense they are not a Masai-type pick.

Below is a list of 2024 NCAA prospects who are currently performing like Masai-type FRPs (minimum 7.5 BPM and .160 WS/40 for freshmen and sophomores, minimum 10 BPM and .190 WS/40 for juniors, seniors must be complete standouts on both ends) with their current ESPN mock ranking included:

-Ja'Kobe Walter 6.6 oBPM vs 2.0 dBPM and .151 oWS/40 vs .060 dWS/40 (Baylor Freshman 6'5" SG, mocked #4)
-Kyle Filipowski 8.8 oBPM vs 4.2 dBPM and .156 oWS/40 vs .102 dWS/40 (Duke Sophomore 7'0" PF/C, mocked #8)
-Reed Sheppard 7.8 oBPM vs 5.9 dBPM and .159 oWS/40 vs .088 dWS/40 (Kentucky Freshman 6'3" combo G, mocked #12)
-Kel'el Ware 4.8 oBPM vs 2.6 dBPM and .107 oWS/40 vs .069 dWS/40 (Indiana Sophomore 7'0" C, mocked #24)
-Alex Karaban 6.8 oBPM vs 2.3 dBPM and .147 oWS/40 vs .080 dWS/40 (UConn Sophomore 6'8" F, mocked #49)
-DaRon Holmes 8.3 oBPM vs 3.7 dBPM and .181 oWS/40 vs .083 dWS/40 (Dayton Junior 6'10" PF, unranked)
-Kwame Evans 3.6 oBPM vs 4.6 dBPM and .101 oWS/40 vs .091 dWS/40 (Oregon Freshman 6'9" PF, unranked)

I omitted Donovan Clingan and Yves Missi for now because they are both only 20 MPG players with their college teams. Masai doesn't take college players who play that little. I will also be keeping an eye on Zvonimir Ivisic after his eye popping Kentucky debut.

I'm a big fan of Kel'el

The only player on this list I am not a fan of is Karaban. I like all 6 of Walter, Filipowski, Ware, Sheppard, Holmes and Evans regardless of them also being Masai-type FRPs.

Non-NCAA propsects that seem notable so far from a Raptors perspective because of obvious connections to Masai are Tidjane Salaun (Masai has already been seen scouting him), Ulrich Chomche (Basketball without Borders Africa alumni) and Ousmane N'Diaye (Basketball without Borders Africa alumni).