PG: Knicks Stomp Raptor's Dick Into The Dirt with Stiff Presence by Precious

[F N 11]

Brunson carries this team offensively. People need to point out Thibs weaknesses on both ends without studs.

Read on Twitter

Yeah if Thibs wasn't dealing with such a loaded team...like if he had to coach the Celtics, Thunder, or 6ers...then that would be impressive. But with as much talent as we have, anyone could do it

It’s almost like this man doesn’t have 2 COYs for making teams better than the sum of their parts. And like the most glaring example wasn’t with this team.

He gets credit for building a culture I give him that. Also gets guys to play hard. But to act like the man doesn’t have glaring weaknesses such as below is just riding the high. Which is fine but “if” it comes back to bite us I don’t want to see people complaining. There’s a reason he went around the league meeting new coaches trying to get new philosophies etc and had to come out and say he’s evolved to get another job.

-Meh rotations and refuses to use the guys on his roster in regular season. Rather overplay top guys.

-Meh offense, relys on iso players to create rather than have an offense in place. “Drive and kick” and let the game tell you what to do is not an offense.

-Without Mitch he crumbled defensively and for some reason still doubles scrub of the night players and leave guys open for 3. It got so bad many here complained about it ALOT. Gave up 130 ppg in December.


I like the team I just see some things that can harm us when we trying to advance in playoffs.

Also check out this article

If a recent poll of NBA players conducted by The Athletic is any indication, hardwood outsiders don't want to be a part of it in New York, New York if Tom Thibodeau was around.

The New York Knicks' head coach topped a survey of 55 players when polled on the question of "Which current coach, aside from your own, would you least want to play for?." Thibodeau topped the list at over 43 percent, more than doubling the output toward Stephen Silas, the since-fired head coach of the Houston Rockets. Responses of "other" comes in third while Philadelphia's Doc Rivers rounds out the top four.

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-head-coach-tom-thibodeau-nba-player-poll-madison-square-garden

I’m a big Thibs hater but I bring the evidence. Can’t do anything if the player don’t match his “philosophy” aka Fournier / Kemba / Cam

[K_ick_God]

I just realized the Raptor jersey is an arrow pointing north.

[Gravy]

Watching him keep the team from spiraling at the end of the first half and being pivotal to the team running away with it in the 2nd seemed pretty serious to me

We can't praise Julius around here.

Sent from my SM-S9080 using RealGM mobile app

I hope he has a monster postseason so he can finally start getting some respect. Cause people really obsess about his shortcomings in a way that they just don't for other players who are around his level.

I get that he's not always the most aesthetically pleasing watch, he's not the kind of super high IQ player that people love, and some of his spots aren't "good shots"...there's a reason I was a hater at first too lol...but he's still a really good player who makes a huge impact for this team.

We're lucky to have two All-NBA caliber players...plus an All-defensive team guy...all in their primes.

I looked at the league leaders in turnovers which seem to stand out with him and he's 6th. The players above Randle are:
Trae Young
Luka Doncic
Cade Cunningham
Joel Embiid
Giannis Antetokounmpo

The two after him are Anthony Edwards and Lebron. So he's in good company, I guess turnovers are a part of being good and having the ball a lot

[K_ick_God]

Watching him keep the team from spiraling at the end of the first half and being pivotal to the team running away with it in the 2nd seemed pretty serious to me

We can't praise Julius around here.

Sent from my SM-S9080 using RealGM mobile app

I hope he has a monster postseason so he can finally start getting some respect. Cause people really obsess about his shortcomings in a way that they just don't for other players who are around his level.

I get that he's not always the most aesthetically pleasing watch, he's not the kind of super high IQ player that people love, and some of his spots aren't "good shots"...there's a reason I was a hater at first too lol...but he's still a really good player who makes a huge impact for this team.

We're lucky to have two All-NBA caliber players...plus an All-defensive team guy...all in their primes.

I don’t totally disagree but also it’s not like these errors are aesthetic. Cmon. These errors don’t seem like a big deal in a win but they’re gonna cost you games.

Now, I will concede that he probably can only play this way. Like all of life you take the good with the bad.

[Kampuchea]

Yeah if Thibs wasn't dealing with such a loaded team...like if he had to coach the Celtics, Thunder, or 6ers...then that would be impressive. But with as much talent as we have, anyone could do it

It’s almost like this man doesn’t have 2 COYs for making teams better than the sum of their parts. And like the most glaring example wasn’t with this team.

He gets credit for building a culture I give him that. Also gets guys to play hard. But to act like the man doesn’t have glaring weaknesses such as below is just riding the high. Which is fine but “if” it comes back to bite us I don’t want to see people complaining. There’s a reason he went around the league meeting new coaches trying to get new philosophies etc and had to come out and say he’s evolved to get another job.

-Meh rotations and refuses to use the guys on his roster in regular season. Rather overplay top guys.

-Meh offense, relys on iso players to create rather than have an offense in place. “Drive and kick” and let the game tell you what to do is not an offense.

-Without Mitch he crumbled defensively and for some reason still doubles scrub of the night players and leave guys open for 3. It got so bad many here complained about it ALOT.


I like the team I just see some things that can harm us when we trying to advance in playoffs.

Also check out this article

If a recent poll of NBA players conducted by The Athletic is any indication, hardwood outsiders don't want to be a part of it in New York, New York if Tom Thibodeau was around.

The New York Knicks' head coach topped a survey of 55 players when polled on the question of "Which current coach, aside from your own, would you least want to play for?." Thibodeau topped the list at over 43 percent, more than doubling the output toward Stephen Silas, the since-fired head coach of the Houston Rockets. Responses of "other" comes in third while Philadelphia's Doc Rivers rounds out the top four.

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-head-coach-tom-thibodeau-nba-player-poll-madison-square-garden

I’m a big Thibs hater but I bring the evidence. Can’t do anything if the player don’t match his “philosophy” aka Fournier / Kemba / Cam

Players usually don’t want to play for the more demanding coaches that push defense, not a surprise.

Damn FN11, the team won a bunch of games lately and you are miserable. Imagine if the team wasn’t this good.

[Knick4Real]

"anybody got that clip of Grimes taking Dick to the hole?"

[F N 11]

It’s almost like this man doesn’t have 2 COYs for making teams better than the sum of their parts. And like the most glaring example wasn’t with this team.

He gets credit for building a culture I give him that. Also gets guys to play hard. But to act like the man doesn’t have glaring weaknesses such as below is just riding the high. Which is fine but “if” it comes back to bite us I don’t want to see people complaining. There’s a reason he went around the league meeting new coaches trying to get new philosophies etc and had to come out and say he’s evolved to get another job.

-Meh rotations and refuses to use the guys on his roster in regular season. Rather overplay top guys.

-Meh offense, relys on iso players to create rather than have an offense in place. “Drive and kick” and let the game tell you what to do is not an offense.

-Without Mitch he crumbled defensively and for some reason still doubles scrub of the night players and leave guys open for 3. It got so bad many here complained about it ALOT.


I like the team I just see some things that can harm us when we trying to advance in playoffs.

Also check out this article

If a recent poll of NBA players conducted by The Athletic is any indication, hardwood outsiders don't want to be a part of it in New York, New York if Tom Thibodeau was around.

The New York Knicks' head coach topped a survey of 55 players when polled on the question of "Which current coach, aside from your own, would you least want to play for?." Thibodeau topped the list at over 43 percent, more than doubling the output toward Stephen Silas, the since-fired head coach of the Houston Rockets. Responses of "other" comes in third while Philadelphia's Doc Rivers rounds out the top four.

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-head-coach-tom-thibodeau-nba-player-poll-madison-square-garden

I’m a big Thibs hater but I bring the evidence. Can’t do anything if the player don’t match his “philosophy” aka Fournier / Kemba / Cam

Players usually don’t want to play for the more demanding coaches that push defense, not a surprise.

Damn FN11, the team won a bunch of games lately and you are miserable. Imagine if the team wasn’t this good.

You didn’t say I was wrong

[Knick4Real]

Checked some stats and in the 10 games before the OG trade Julius Randle was averaging 3.7 assists. In the 10 games after he's up to 5.6 apg. OG is making everyone better.

First unit is better constructed and more conducive to ball movement.

Correct! This is why getting a guy like Dejounte and possibly disrupting the chemistry makes me nervous.

[Capn'O]

I've noticed we're setting up Randle in more catch and shoot situations lately and he's converting. Donte as playmaker is opening these up.

[F N 11]

Checked some stats and in the 10 games before the OG trade Julius Randle was averaging 3.7 assists. In the 10 games after he's up to 5.6 apg. OG is making everyone better.

First unit is better constructed and more conducive to ball movement.

Correct! This is why getting a guy like Dejounte and possibly disrupting the chemistry makes me nervous.

I like it bc Brunson can focus more on scoring and playing defense on the weakest link. Brunson or Murray can stagger with bench. The more playmakers the merrier. Playoffs is a different ball game. When Iq got hurt and didn’t get going, it screwed us.

[blue and orange]

“Dick in the mud” that’s what DMX said

[Jeff Van Gully]

Yeah if Thibs wasn't dealing with such a loaded team...like if he had to coach the Celtics, Thunder, or 6ers...then that would be impressive. But with as much talent as we have, anyone could do it

It’s almost like this man doesn’t have 2 COYs for making teams better than the sum of their parts. And like the most glaring example wasn’t with this team.

He gets credit for building a culture I give him that. Also gets guys to play hard. But to act like the man doesn’t have glaring weaknesses such as below is just riding the high.

I’ve never denied Thibs’ weaknesses. None of the players or coach are zero sum games to me. It’s problematic that so many of us align our identities this way and can’t take nuanced approaches to fandom.

Cam has always been Cam’s biggest problem. He has an opportunity in LA because that team can’t add expensive talent. And he’s now adhering to a diminished role he’s fought against since he was drafted. Good for him. Bet he still thinks he’s Anthony Edwards.

I completely understand why Thibs is not ideal for a lot of players. And I’m fine with having the ones with whom he is a match at this time. OG is a prime example. The things that make him a championship piece are things other players just won’t be wired to accept. You like Jalen Brunson? I guarantee you the straw who stirs our drink and chose to come here to play for him is a Thibs guy.

I’m confident this FO will continue to build and improve this team. For now, that continues to include Thibs and his culture and style.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Checked some stats and in the 10 games before the OG trade Julius Randle was averaging 3.7 assists. In the 10 games after he's up to 5.6 apg. OG is making everyone better.

First unit is better constructed and more conducive to ball movement.

Correct! This is why getting a guy like Dejounte and possibly disrupting the chemistry makes me nervous.

Brogdon would be unassuming and perfect… when healthy.

[MrDollarBills]

The best thing about this win was that it was Bruce Brown's audition as well. He just changed his preception from pass to hard pass.

for me, it has nothing to do with one game (he was bad tho). we just need someone who can either create a shot or hit an open three. he can't do either..

This is what it boils down to. Bruce is a solid player but he's not what the team needs. Everything he does, Josh Hart does*

Spoiler:

*except raw dogging porn actresses and knocking them up

[F N 11]

It’s almost like this man doesn’t have 2 COYs for making teams better than the sum of their parts. And like the most glaring example wasn’t with this team.

He gets credit for building a culture I give him that. Also gets guys to play hard. But to act like the man doesn’t have glaring weaknesses such as below is just riding the high.

I’ve never denied Thibs’ weaknesses. None of the players or coach are zero sum games to me. It’s problematic that so many of us align our identities this way and can’t take nuanced approaches to fandom.

Cam has always been Cam’s biggest problem. He has an opportunity in LA because that team can’t add expensive talent. And he’s now adhering to a diminished role he’s fought against since he was drafted. Good for him. Bet he still thinks he’s Anthony Edwards.

I completely understand why Thibs is not ideal for a lot of players. And I’m fine with having the ones with whom he is a match at this time. OG is a prime example. The things that make him a championship piece are things other players just won’t be wired to accept. You like Jalen Brunson? I guarantee you the straw who stirs our drink and chose to come here to play for him is a Thibs guy.

I’m confident this FO will continue to build and improve this team. For now, that continues to include Thibs and his culture and style.

I agree with the Cam part I was just saying he doesn’t do well when guys don’t fit his style. I’m shocked he rocked with Iq and RJ for that long.

At this stage we have to go all in on Thibs plan. Brunson worked out, D Rose worked out, Josh Hart still pending, OG is amazing. We have to sure up areas so his weakness are not magnified.

[Capn'O]

The best thing about this win was that it was Bruce Brown's audition as well. He just changed his preception from pass to hard pass.

for me, it has nothing to do with one game (he was bad tho). we just need someone who can either create a shot or hit an open three. he can't do either..

This is what it boils down to. Bruce is a solid player but he's not what the team needs. Everything he does, Josh Hart does*

Spoiler:

*except raw dogging porn actresses and knocking them up

I've been sold on the angle that we already have a Josh Hart.

That said, I LOVE Brown openly campaigning to come here. Not for the player as much as it shows we're a destination again. Players want to come here. A few short years of success and everyone forgot about Dolan and the Two Decades of Misery.

[F N 11]

First unit is better constructed and more conducive to ball movement.

Correct! This is why getting a guy like Dejounte and possibly disrupting the chemistry makes me nervous.

Brogdon would be unassuming and perfect… when healthy.

He played annoyingly well for Celtics. I won’t mind him. I think we worry a bit too much about if Murray would want to be a “star” in his role here. Once he see the team wining I don’t think he will care.

[K_ick_God]

I’m not going on his stats or garbage dunks but Precious works and has a unique makeup. Can’t go wrong with keeping him on a small deal.

[DaGawd]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

Evidence of awful coaching

Brunson carries this team offensively. People need to point out Thibs weaknesses on both ends without studs.

Read on Twitter

most teams suck without their best player.. the nuggets look god awful without jokic

[Capn'O]

Evidence of awful coaching

Brunson carries this team offensively. People need to point out Thibs weaknesses on both ends without studs.

Read on Twitter

most teams suck without their best player.. the nuggets look god awful without jokic

Especially because our roster is built around his play. We just need a coherent second unit.