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Post#961 » by SA37 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:23 pm

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Robinson may not be the better overall player but he’s the better winning player and that’s what we need.

As for the free throws, he definitely needs to increase them but those guys you mentioned above 5 are far, far superior players than Herro outside of just that.

I like that you mentioned Clarkson, I feel that’s what Herro is pretty close to. If you have Clarkson Herros usage and shot attempts you’d basically get the same results


The guy I didn't include who I think is Herro's best comp is CJ McCollum. Clarkson is a good comp too, though.

Robinson is clearly a role player, whereas Herro could in theory be the 3rd best player on a championship contender and is a guy who can make and take big shots. I don't know if Herro will take the next step, but he literally just turned 24 yesterday. It's also worth remembering Herro also happens to play for a team that tends to rank near the bottom for offense.

Miami needs more talent, but Herro seems to be more valuable on Miami's roster versus whatever teams would trade for him, which is kind of the case for guys like Clarkson, Rozier, or Lavine. I mean, why pay a premium for Lavine or Herro when you can get a cheaper comp in Clarkson, Rozier, or Buddy Hield?


I really hope he can increase his level of play between now and next seasons deadline. We need other teams to somewhat value him. Whether that’s trading him a 2 1sts for Mitchell or sending him out to a 3rd team for a pick or 2 to reroute for Mitchell. Could possibly not be Mitchell but you get the point.


That would be a blessing and a curse at the same time. Imagine Miami makes another strong playoff run and Herro has a great playoffs. Why trade a guy who seems to have take that next step?

I think Riley has more or less shown he is only going to make a trade for a guy he sees as a game-changer, which is why Miami has been quietly exploring trades for Harden, Mitchell, Kyrie, Lillard, Durant while going after Giannis in FA. Probably the non-role player guys with the least clout I've heard Miami was interested in are Jrue Holiday and Bradley Beal.
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Post#963 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:26 pm

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The guy I didn't include who I think is Herro's best comp is CJ McCollum. Clarkson is a good comp too, though.

Robinson is clearly a role player, whereas Herro could in theory be the 3rd best player on a championship contender and is a guy who can make and take big shots. I don't know if Herro will take the next step, but he literally just turned 24 yesterday. It's also worth remembering Herro also happens to play for a team that tends to rank near the bottom for offense.

Miami needs more talent, but Herro seems to be more valuable on Miami's roster versus whatever teams would trade for him, which is kind of the case for guys like Clarkson, Rozier, or Lavine. I mean, why pay a premium for Lavine or Herro when you can get a cheaper comp in Clarkson, Rozier, or Buddy Hield?


I really hope he can increase his level of play between now and next seasons deadline. We need other teams to somewhat value him. Whether that’s trading him a 2 1sts for Mitchell or sending him out to a 3rd team for a pick or 2 to reroute for Mitchell. Could possibly not be Mitchell but you get the point.

So you shouldn’t be rooting for Herro to come off the bench in favor of Duncan. The focus should remain in fixing the two glaring holes in the starting lineup which is at PG and finding a vet upgrade to slot in for our wet behind the ears 20 year old PF. I’d rather sacrifice trading Duncan but if we don’t have to all good.


I guess I’m at a crossroads lol I want herro to increase his value but I want to win a championship and Herro off the bench helps those chances. If he kills it off the bench and we win a bunch that may do both :o
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#964 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:28 pm

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The guy I didn't include who I think is Herro's best comp is CJ McCollum. Clarkson is a good comp too, though.

Robinson is clearly a role player, whereas Herro could in theory be the 3rd best player on a championship contender and is a guy who can make and take big shots. I don't know if Herro will take the next step, but he literally just turned 24 yesterday. It's also worth remembering Herro also happens to play for a team that tends to rank near the bottom for offense.

Miami needs more talent, but Herro seems to be more valuable on Miami's roster versus whatever teams would trade for him, which is kind of the case for guys like Clarkson, Rozier, or Lavine. I mean, why pay a premium for Lavine or Herro when you can get a cheaper comp in Clarkson, Rozier, or Buddy Hield?


I really hope he can increase his level of play between now and next seasons deadline. We need other teams to somewhat value him. Whether that’s trading him a 2 1sts for Mitchell or sending him out to a 3rd team for a pick or 2 to reroute for Mitchell. Could possibly not be Mitchell but you get the point.


That would be a blessing and a curse at the same time. Imagine Miami makes another strong playoff run and Herro has a great playoffs. Why trade a guy who seems to have take that next step?

I think Riley has more or less shown he is only going to make a trade for a guy he sees as a game-changer, which is why Miami has been quietly exploring trades for Harden, Mitchell, Kyrie, Lillard, Durant while going after Giannis in FA. Probably the non-role player guys with the least clout I've heard Miami was interested in are Jrue Holiday and Bradley Beal.


It would definitely have to be a high level guy like that. Like Mitchell for example again, would have no problem because I am very confident Herro will never reach that level. He just doesn’t have the tools for it.
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Post#966 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:31 pm

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Post#967 » by unowen85 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:32 pm

I’m waiting for both Herro and Bam to take it to the next level.
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Post#968 » by SA37 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:33 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:It would definitely have to be a high level guy like that. Like Mitchell for example again, would have no problem because I am very confident Herro will never reach that level. He just doesn’t have the tools for it.


I would tend to agree with that sentiment. Then again, I thought Jamal Mashburn just didn't have it anymore and Miami traded him to the Hornets where he proceeded to destroy. A similar thing happened with Glen Rice.
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Post#969 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:34 pm

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Post#970 » by SA37 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:37 pm

unowen85 wrote:I’m waiting for both Herro and Bam to take it to the next level.


I thought Bam was on his way given how he started the season, but he's remained steady at a level a bit above his output last year. That said, if he finishes the season with his current averages, he'd set career highs for ppg and rpg. He's also on pace to set his record for double-doubles in a season.
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Post#971 » by Wiltside » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:53 pm

Bam has improved every year. He’s a top 20 guy in the league. Not concerned with him.
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Post#972 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:54 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:It would definitely have to be a high level guy like that. Like Mitchell for example again, would have no problem because I am very confident Herro will never reach that level. He just doesn’t have the tools for it.


I would tend to agree with that sentiment. Then again, I thought Jamal Mashburn just didn't have it anymore and Miami traded him to the Hornets where he proceeded to destroy. A similar thing happened with Glen Rice.


I mean to be fair if you gave Herro their size and athleticism I might be looking at it a little different but Herro is pretty small with a negative wingspan and not much athletically. I just feel he’s very easily replaced if needed.
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Post#974 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:55 pm

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unowen85 wrote:I’m waiting for both Herro and Bam to take it to the next level.


I thought Bam was on his way given how he started the season, but he's remained steady at a level a bit above his output last year. That said, if he finishes the season with his current averages, he'd set career highs for ppg and rpg. He's also on pace to set his record for double-doubles in a season.


Bam has increased his PPG 7 seasons in a row, they record is 8 :o
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Post#978 » by Rapaz » Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:07 pm

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Post#979 » by SerialChiller » Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:30 pm

haha it's so brutal that Lowry is literally the only PG on the entire roster, making nearly a team high 30M and still can't even start...
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