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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#981 » by BeiBeau » Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:52 am

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Wilding incorrect? :lol: Is really necessary to go with full aggression in every post?

His defensive stats are, not only this season, very average at best.


Wildly* obviously. I apologize that my phone loves to autocorrect incorrectly but **** happens.

I don’t know what you think aggression is but pointing out that you consistently are completely incorrect all the time around here isn’t aggression. It’s just factsz


Just look at his defensive stats. Average or bad. And don't say that you're watching Toronto constantly because I don't believe you.


You’re just flat wrong, it happens a lot for you. Siakam is a bad defender in the same way D Live has zero nba skills huh?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#982 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:33 am

BliscoSantos wrote:Nets asking for two firsts for Dodo... they're delusional...he's maybe worth one late first to a contender,which Dallas isn't...I like Dodo but it's Best to move on,I wouldn't give up a first for him


Definitely not worth that. But everyone except Cuban, Nico, and one poster here knew Grant Williams wasn't worth an unprotected first swap, yet here we are unfortunately
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#983 » by Bob8 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:30 am

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Wildly* obviously. I apologize that my phone loves to autocorrect incorrectly but **** happens.

I don’t know what you think aggression is but pointing out that you consistently are completely incorrect all the time around here isn’t aggression. It’s just factsz


Just look at his defensive stats. Average or bad. And don't say that you're watching Toronto constantly because I don't believe you.


You’re just flat wrong, it happens a lot for you. Siakam is a bad defender in the same way D Live has zero nba skills huh?


I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said that he isn't very good one. Tell me, how you rank Siakam's D? You obviously don't have a clue about his defensive stats and you're not watching him playing enough to make any kind of argument about his D. I don't watch him either, but I at least know his defensive stats and base my opinion on them. Defensive stats are very tricky, so I can be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on something. What about you?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#984 » by BeiBeau » Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:12 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Just look at his defensive stats. Average or bad. And don't say that you're watching Toronto constantly because I don't believe you.


You’re just flat wrong, it happens a lot for you. Siakam is a bad defender in the same way D Live has zero nba skills huh?


I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said that he isn't very good one. Tell me, how you rank Siakam's D? You obviously don't have a clue about his defensive stats and you're not watching him playing enough to make any kind of argument about his D. I don't watch him either, but I at least know his defensive stats and base my opinion on them. Defensive stats are very tricky, so I can be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on something. What about you?


I watch 10-15 raptors games a year every year. He’s a good defender.

You don’t have to tell us you’re a box score watcher who knows nothing. We already knew that.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#985 » by Bob8 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:55 pm

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You’re just flat wrong, it happens a lot for you. Siakam is a bad defender in the same way D Live has zero nba skills huh?


I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said that he isn't very good one. Tell me, how you rank Siakam's D? You obviously don't have a clue about his defensive stats and you're not watching him playing enough to make any kind of argument about his D. I don't watch him either, but I at least know his defensive stats and base my opinion on them. Defensive stats are very tricky, so I can be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on something. What about you?


I watch 10-15 raptors games a year every year. He’s a good defender.

You don’t have to tell us you’re a box score watcher who knows nothing. We already knew that.


Did I write anything about you? Those personal attacks are just totally misplaced. It's normal to have different opinions in the forum. It should be normal to have normal discussion too.

If you look at Siakam's defensive stats in Nba.com, you will see that he's nothing special. If you look at his defensive raptor you will see the same and strangely enough you will see the same story in basketball-reference.com. Like I said, defensive stats are not always reliable, but the best defenders have normally pretty good defensive stats. Maybe he didn't care about playing D in Toronto, but he for sure wasn't wasn't very good in last few years.

I still didn't hear a single argument backing your claim about him being very good defender. Maybe you should put some arguments here instead of just making personal attacks on me. Thanks.
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Post#986 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:11 pm

Marvin Bagley with two consecutive 20/10 games...he'd been a nice buy low candidate

Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...he would solve the SF/PF problem and because of baggage could be had for less
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Post#987 » by daoneandonly » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:16 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:Marvin Bagley with two consecutive 20/10 games...he'd been a nice buy low candidate

Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...he would solve the SF/PF problem and because of baggage could be had for less


Problem is he can veto any trade and we dont have the money to sign him back
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#988 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:46 pm

Bob8 wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
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I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said that he isn't very good one. Tell me, how you rank Siakam's D? You obviously don't have a clue about his defensive stats and you're not watching him playing enough to make any kind of argument about his D. I don't watch him either, but I at least know his defensive stats and base my opinion on them. Defensive stats are very tricky, so I can be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on something. What about you?


I watch 10-15 raptors games a year every year. He’s a good defender.

You don’t have to tell us you’re a box score watcher who knows nothing. We already knew that.


Did I write anything about you? Those personal attacks are just totally misplaced. It's normal to have different opinions in the forum. It should be normal to have normal discussion too.

If you look at Siakam's defensive stats in Nba.com, you will see that he's nothing special. If you look at his defensive raptor you will see the same and strangely enough you will see the same story in basketball-reference.com. Like I said, defensive stats are not always reliable, but the best defenders have normally pretty good defensive stats. Maybe he didn't care about playing D in Toronto, but he for sure wasn't wasn't very good in last few years.

I still didn't hear a single argument backing your claim about him being very good defender. Maybe you should put some arguments here instead of just making personal attacks on me. Thanks.


Well it would be the first time ever... very difficult, but hope is the last to die...
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#989 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:10 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Marvin Bagley with two consecutive 20/10 games...he'd been a nice buy low candidate

Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...he would solve the SF/PF problem and because of baggage could be had for less


Problem is he can veto any trade and we dont have the money to sign him back

I want nothing to do with him, but right now, he's not getting a contract in the league that isn't vet min or TPMLE at best, good showing with a contender and he's looking at full MLE at least.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#990 » by BeiBeau » Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:55 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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I didn't say he's a bad defender, I said that he isn't very good one. Tell me, how you rank Siakam's D? You obviously don't have a clue about his defensive stats and you're not watching him playing enough to make any kind of argument about his D. I don't watch him either, but I at least know his defensive stats and base my opinion on them. Defensive stats are very tricky, so I can be wrong, but I'm basing my opinion on something. What about you?


I watch 10-15 raptors games a year every year. He’s a good defender.

You don’t have to tell us you’re a box score watcher who knows nothing. We already knew that.


Did I write anything about you? Those personal attacks are just totally misplaced. It's normal to have different opinions in the forum. It should be normal to have normal discussion too.

If you look at Siakam's defensive stats in Nba.com, you will see that he's nothing special. If you look at his defensive raptor you will see the same and strangely enough you will see the same story in basketball-reference.com. Like I said, defensive stats are not always reliable, but the best defenders have normally pretty good defensive stats. Maybe he didn't care about playing D in Toronto, but he for sure wasn't wasn't very good in last few years.

I still didn't hear a single argument backing your claim about him being very good defender. Maybe you should put some arguments here instead of just making personal attacks on me. Thanks.


Pointing out that you’re completely incorrect isn’t a personal attack. Neither is calling you a box score watcher as you’re admitting that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about and are just looking up box scores.

In the last 3 months your 3 most prominent arguments are 1. Dereck Lively has 0 NBA skills, 2. Injuries aren’t real, and now 3. Siakam, a pretty good and versatile defender is bad because, *checks notes* Bob8 looked up a number on the internet and says it’s not good enough. You do realize OG Anunoby, a top 3 perimeter defender in the league, has a defensive rating that is only 1.2 points better than Siakam right? So no the numbers you look up don’t matter.

Before you just start spouting incorrect things on the internet and then crying when that gets called out you should try actually watching.
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Post#991 » by Archx » Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:23 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...


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Post#992 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:17 am

Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...


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I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#993 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:10 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Most here aren't gonna be happy about it,but I hope the rumors that Mavs are interested in Miles Bridges are true...


Read on Twitter


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I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching



Mavs don't have the assets to get any of them...other teams can offer a better package....I think its time to accept the fact the Mavs will only be able to pull off a minor trade,this deadline, which probably won't make too much of an impact
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Post#994 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:21 am

BliscoSantos wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
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I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching



Mavs don't have the assets to get any of them...other teams can offer a better package....I think its time to accept the fact the Mavs will only be able to pull off a minor trade,this deadline, which probably won't make too much of an impact


The Wiz asking price for Kuzma is absurd. That dude sucks
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#995 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:34 am

daoneandonly wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
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I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching



Mavs don't have the assets to get any of them...other teams can offer a better package....I think its time to accept the fact the Mavs will only be able to pull off a minor trade,this deadline, which probably won't make too much of an impact


The Wiz asking price for Kuzma is absurd. That dude sucks


I wouldn't give up two picks for him but the Nets have the same asking price for Dodo... it's crazy
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#996 » by Mr B » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:56 am

tleikheen wrote:Marvin Bagleys 1st game with the Wizards was a dbl/dbl (20pts/11rebs/3 blocks) while Daniel Gafford was out with concussion protocol. Both guys need minutes and Gafford might become the odd man out.

I dont think Mavs are gonna get a PF in this trade cycle but they still need a backup Center and Gafford 25 y o at 12 million is a good investment. In 26 mpg he avgs 10.4 ppg/7.6rpg/2.1 bpg while shooting 68 percent .He plays just like Lively does . I would offer up Josh Green,Jaden Hardy,Powell and draft considerations.

Is there any realistic way the Mavs could get Gafford and Kuzma in a trade with Washington? That would fill two huge holes on this team.

Also (hear me out), could/would the Mavs then trade for Miles Bridges? I know PR wise it would be terrible. In the court though he fits a need and can play. Adding those 3 to Luka, Kyrie, and Lively would be fun to watch.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#997 » by Mr B » Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:00 am

BliscoSantos wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching



Mavs don't have the assets to get any of them...other teams can offer a better package....I think its time to accept the fact the Mavs will only be able to pull off a minor trade,this deadline, which probably won't make too much of an impact

People used to say that when DFS was still on the team and now somehow he’s worth 2 FRP’s.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#998 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:09 am

Mr B wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
I could deal with Bridges or Gafford, but if this team gets Kuzma I might have to give up watching



Mavs don't have the assets to get any of them...other teams can offer a better package....I think its time to accept the fact the Mavs will only be able to pull off a minor trade,this deadline, which probably won't make too much of an impact

People used to say that when DFS was still on the team and now somehow he’s worth 2 FRP’s.


But he's not worth two firsts, that's their asking price and if it stays this way he won't be moved
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Post#999 » by ejs78 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:43 am

Are people still wishing the Mavs traded for Ayton?

Started watching the 2nd half and he's caught a lob then had an offensive goaltend. He's pretty invisible on both ends a majority of the time.


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Post#1000 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:33 am

ejs78 wrote:Are people still wishing the Mavs traded for Ayton?

Started watching the 2nd half and he's caught a lob then had an offensive goaltend. He's pretty invisible on both ends a majority of the time.


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I wanted him, after knowing he was this cheap I wished they traded for him and picked Whitmore.
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