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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 

Post#521 » by niQ » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:26 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:
The more I look at these guys, the more I hope we just convey the pick. There's no one in that 4-12 range that really gets me excited other than for the kentucky guards, but they might just be more overlap with IQ.

I'm on the same boat, but don't forget Dennis will be an expiring next year. So getting Dillingham would be his eventual replacement.


I completely disagree

I think the weakness of this draft was very overblown only towards superstars at the top..

there's a bunch of guys who could be franchise core pieces..

Perfect raptors fits..

- Cody Williams
- Sarr
- Risacher
- Salaun
-Dillingham
-Walter
-Topic
-Sheppard

There's 8 already I'm confident in as prospects and any of them could be the best one..

maybe the perfect year to have a top 8 pick

:(


Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?
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Post#522 » by DG88 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:30 pm

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The more I look at these guys, the more I hope we just convey the pick. There's no one in that 4-12 range that really gets me excited other than for the kentucky guards, but they might just be more overlap with IQ.

I'm on the same boat, but don't forget Dennis will be an expiring next year. So getting Dillingham would be his eventual replacement.


If the Raps end up 6th, I'd take one of them for sure.

But chances are, the raps are in the top 4 or they give up their pick.

Pretty much. On top of that you'd rather convey the pick this year since the talent in 25 and 26 will be higher. We don't know how long our "rebuild" will be, but Masai said 3 years ish.
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Post#523 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:33 pm

This draft stinks. For reference Kelly Olynyk is like a top 10 pick in a 2013 redraft. Desmond Mason would be a top 10 pick in a 2000 re-draft. Thabo Sefalosha a top 10 in 2006.

We're hoping for the Milsap/Redd/Gobert types that everyone has written off already.
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Post#524 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:34 pm

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DG88 wrote:I'm on the same boat, but don't forget Dennis will be an expiring next year. So getting Dillingham would be his eventual replacement.


If the Raps end up 6th, I'd take one of them for sure.

But chances are, the raps are in the top 4 or they give up their pick.

Pretty much. On top of that you'd rather convey the pick this year since the talent in 25 and 26 will be higher. We don't know how long our "rebuild" will be, but Masai said 3 years ish.


I think the top international guys might have low end allstar upside (Sarr, Topic, Risacher) so if we can move into the top 3-4, I wouldn't mind that. But after that, I see a lot of college / gleague guys who'd be mid 1sts in a lot of other drafts. There will be some really good players taken in this draft, but they could be spread out throughout the draft.
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Post#525 » by nivisi9 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:39 pm

niQ wrote:
nivisi9 wrote:
DG88 wrote:I'm on the same boat, but don't forget Dennis will be an expiring next year. So getting Dillingham would be his eventual replacement.


I completely disagree

I think the weakness of this draft was very overblown only towards superstars at the top..

there's a bunch of guys who could be franchise core pieces..

Perfect raptors fits..

- Cody Williams
- Sarr
- Risacher
- Salaun
-Dillingham
-Walter
-Topic
-Sheppard

There's 8 already I'm confident in as prospects and any of them could be the best one..

maybe the perfect year to have a top 8 pick

:(


Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?


If he turns into a Giannis clone with shooting I think so

You got PG Quickley /SF Scottie/ SG Barrett

Salaun fits in as PF or C

and if he's reaches even 70% he's potential it won't matter
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Post#526 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:42 pm

nivisi9 wrote:
niQ wrote:
nivisi9 wrote:
I completely disagree

I think the weakness of this draft was very overblown only towards superstars at the top..

there's a bunch of guys who could be franchise core pieces..

Perfect raptors fits..

- Cody Williams
- Sarr
- Risacher
- Salaun
-Dillingham
-Walter
-Topic
-Sheppard

There's 8 already I'm confident in as prospects and any of them could be the best one..

maybe the perfect year to have a top 8 pick

:(


Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?


If he turns into a Giannis clone with shooting I think so

You got PG Quickley /SF Scottie/ SG Barrett

Salaun fits in as PF or C

and if he's reaches even 70% he's potential it won't matter


Is he even a lock for the lottery? I've seen him all over in mocks. He could be in play at the Pacers pick.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 

Post#527 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:52 pm

nivisi9 wrote:
niQ wrote:
nivisi9 wrote:
I completely disagree

I think the weakness of this draft was very overblown only towards superstars at the top..

there's a bunch of guys who could be franchise core pieces..

Perfect raptors fits..

- Cody Williams
- Sarr
- Risacher
- Salaun
-Dillingham
-Walter
-Topic
-Sheppard

There's 8 already I'm confident in as prospects and any of them could be the best one..

maybe the perfect year to have a top 8 pick

:(


Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?


If he turns into a Giannis clone with shooting I think so

You got PG Quickley /SF Scottie/ SG Barrett

Salaun fits in as PF or C

and if he's reaches even 70% he's potential it won't matter



Regardless of fit you hate to pick up the french Giannis
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Post#528 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:36 pm

Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.
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Post#529 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:44 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.

2025 is probably a worse draft than 2024 outside of the top talent, and like you said we get the pick if it’s top 6.
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Post#530 » by Ell Curry » Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:58 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.


Next year has some strong prospects, and with Barnes we're probably not going to be so bad that we're in the bottom 5, so missing out on say the 7th or 8th pick could be disastrous next year. That's probably the best chance of us finding a Paul George, Wagner, Haliburton, Booker, Donovan Mitchell, Markkanenn, SGA 2nd half of the lottery star.
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Post#531 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:01 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
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If the Raps end up 6th, I'd take one of them for sure.

But chances are, the raps are in the top 4 or they give up their pick.

Pretty much. On top of that you'd rather convey the pick this year since the talent in 25 and 26 will be higher. We don't know how long our "rebuild" will be, but Masai said 3 years ish.


I think the top international guys might have low end allstar upside (Sarr, Topic, Risacher) so if we can move into the top 3-4, I wouldn't mind that. But after that, I see a lot of college / gleague guys who'd be mid 1sts in a lot of other drafts. There will be some really good players taken in this draft, but they could be spread out throughout the draft.


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Post#532 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:07 pm

Ell Curry wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.


Next year has some strong prospects, and with Barnes we're probably not going to be so bad that we're in the bottom 5, so missing out on say the 7th or 8th pick could be disastrous next year. That's probably the best chance of us finding a Paul George, Wagner, Haliburton, Booker, Donovan Mitchell, Markkanenn, SGA 2nd half of the lottery star.


You’d have to show me which prospects OUTSIDE of the top 6 of next year’s draft are “so much better” than guys like Sarr, Holland, TS, Big Z…because I suspect it’s negligible at best and if you don’t think we’ll be bad enough to be top 6 then it only makes even more sense to add again what would likely be a comparable talent now vs later.
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Post#533 » by PushDaRock » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:33 pm

The optics of giving up the 7th pick looks bad but being in a situation where you are top 4 or the pick conveys isn't the worst thing to happen at this point. Top 4 you likely can at least get the player you want or like if there is one or just trade it hopefully to a team that does have someone they really like. 5th or 6th in this draft is more like a teens pick in normal ones so trying to tank for it seems like a fairly pointless endeavor, not to mention the likelihood of pulling it off is very low with how many truly awful teams there are right now.
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Post#534 » by Ell Curry » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:07 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
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PhilBlackson wrote:Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.


Next year has some strong prospects, and with Barnes we're probably not going to be so bad that we're in the bottom 5, so missing out on say the 7th or 8th pick could be disastrous next year. That's probably the best chance of us finding a Paul George, Wagner, Haliburton, Booker, Donovan Mitchell, Markkanenn, SGA 2nd half of the lottery star.


You’d have to show me which prospects OUTSIDE of the top 6 of next year’s draft are “so much better” than guys like Sarr, Holland, TS, Big Z…because I suspect it’s negligible at best and if you don’t think we’ll be bad enough to be top 6 then it only makes even more sense to add again what would likely be a comparable talent now vs later.


I think of it more this way:

1. Flagg, Bailey and the 3-6 kinda guys seem to be rated higher than this year's picks, so it seems fair to assume that the #8 pick in next year's draft should have more value than the #5 or #6 prospect in this one.

2. There's no chatter about this 2025 being a weak draft. This draft already has that reputation by this point last year, as draft analysts seem to agree with the Raps rationale (deal itself another matter) for the Poeltl trade and openly said they were down on the 2024 draft.

3. Conversely, there is definitely a case for hoping we get a high pick this draft, draft someone and play them and Grady a ton and tank hard just by virtue of them being young and therefore bad (and probably moving Bruce Brown) and hey, maybe we end up with Flagg or Bailey in 2025. If we draft Sarr, we can also move Poeltl for a pick and strengthen the tank and add an asset.
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Post#535 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:35 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
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PhilBlackson wrote:Idk why ppl are so worried about conveying, it’s not like if we don’t this year that next year SAS will be able to draft Flagg or Bailey lol it’s still top 6 protected next too but at least we’d likely already have a core level prospect added to the roster..

The Spurs can hit on a non top 6 pick in either year lol there’s no way of predicting. I’ve heard the very top players ie/ top 5 will be better but again that’s not an issue with our protection. I actually think our odds are likely better that we get a really good player in the top 6 of this year even more so than outside the top 6 of next and again we get them here sooner and can he better earlier. We can also just easily be back in the top 6 next year since we don’t have half a season of Pascal.


Next year has some strong prospects, and with Barnes we're probably not going to be so bad that we're in the bottom 5, so missing out on say the 7th or 8th pick could be disastrous next year. That's probably the best chance of us finding a Paul George, Wagner, Haliburton, Booker, Donovan Mitchell, Markkanenn, SGA 2nd half of the lottery star.


You’d have to show me which prospects OUTSIDE of the top 6 of next year’s draft are “so much better” than guys like Sarr, Holland, TS, Big Z…because I suspect it’s negligible at best and if you don’t think we’ll be bad enough to be top 6 then it only makes even more sense to add again what would likely be a comparable talent now vs later.


Dillingham and Sheppard are outside the top 6.
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Post#536 » by bboyskinnylegs » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:51 pm

I like Salaun. Hope Indy continues to lose so we can hopefully use their pick to select him.
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Post#537 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:04 am

niQ wrote:
nivisi9 wrote:
DG88 wrote:I'm on the same boat, but don't forget Dennis will be an expiring next year. So getting Dillingham would be his eventual replacement.


I completely disagree

I think the weakness of this draft was very overblown only towards superstars at the top..

there's a bunch of guys who could be franchise core pieces..

Perfect raptors fits..

- Cody Williams
- Sarr
- Risacher
- Salaun
-Dillingham
-Walter
-Topic
-Sheppard

There's 8 already I'm confident in as prospects and any of them could be the best one..

maybe the perfect year to have a top 8 pick

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Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?


Don’t know about perfect but anyone with length who can guard POA and hit the 3 is going to huge.
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Post#538 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:10 am

OakleyDokely wrote:
nivisi9 wrote:
niQ wrote:
Is Salaun really a perfect fit next to Scottie?


If he turns into a Giannis clone with shooting I think so

You got PG Quickley /SF Scottie/ SG Barrett

Salaun fits in as PF or C

and if he's reaches even 70% he's potential it won't matter


Is he even a lock for the lottery? I've seen him all over in mocks. He could be in play at the Pacers pick.


Once workouts start, I think he's a lock for top 10. I still haven't watched full games only highlights but he moves well, has a nice arcing 3 and a ton of length/height.

Someone is going to take a swing in this draft, especially at the top end
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Post#539 » by TorontoBarneys » Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:18 am

I'm digging these French prospects lately. Quality is there.
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Post#540 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:41 am

TorontoBarneys wrote:I'm digging these French prospects lately. Quality is there.

France is a gold mine
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