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[Clyde_Style]

Hart: "THAT BOY WAS ABUSING DICK"

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This has to happen in the locker room of every team that plays the Raptors

[K_ick_God]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

[Clyde_Style]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

I love the guy. I appreciate what he brings to the team but, you nailed it. Thibs overuses him far too often and, he brings next to nothing besides another warm body in the half court offense. His contract is a bit much too but, if the cap jumps significantly after the TV deal(after next season?) then that should lessen the blow. He's also funny as hell. Total hustle player who is good for the locker room.

[NoStatsGuy]

Im still ashamed of myself for not trusting brunson when we signed him.

He might be the best player we ever had. No offense to the 70s squad or ewing but did we ever have an mvp caliber player since reed?

Frazier was an allstar and played until 1979. Reed retired in '74. If you could find some stats, you'd know that.

But yeah, in 1973 they won their last championshp together with Dave DeBusschere. Why do I mention him? The trade for DeBusschere was just like our trade for Anunoby - traded away real talent to get them, but we were incredibly better after the trade.

yea i neither watched them or looked up detailed information about the dynamics and actual teams.

but as i already implied besides those teams and ewing i couldnt imagine anybody was better. thats all i was trying to figure out. didnt try to attack anybody

[Clyde_Style]

Im still ashamed of myself for not trusting brunson when we signed him.

He might be the best player we ever had. No offense to the 70s squad or ewing but did we ever have an mvp caliber player since reed?

Frazier was an allstar and played until 1979. Reed retired in '74. If you could find some stats, you'd know that.

But yeah, in 1973 they won their last championshp together with Dave DeBusschere. Why do I mention him? The trade for DeBusschere was just like our trade for Anunoby - traded away real talent to get them, but we were incredibly better after the trade.

yea i neither watched them or looked up detailed information about the dynamics and actual teams.

but as i already implied besides those teams and ewing i couldnt imagine anybody was better. thats all i was trying to figure out. didnt try to attack anybody

Clyde is our spirit animal

[BKlutch]

Im still ashamed of myself for not trusting brunson when we signed him.

He might be the best player we ever had. No offense to the 70s squad or ewing but did we ever have an mvp caliber player since reed?

Frazier was an allstar and played until 1979. Reed retired in '74. If you could find some stats, you'd know that.

But yeah, in 1973 they won their last championshp together with Dave DeBusschere. Why do I mention him? The trade for DeBusschere was just like our trade for Anunoby - traded away real talent to get them, but we were incredibly better after the trade.

yea i neither watched them or looked up detailed information about the dynamics and actual teams.

but as i already implied besides those teams and ewing i couldnt imagine anybody was better. thats all i was trying to figure out. didnt try to attack anybody

Of course, just trying to add some additinonal history that not all of us are old enought to remember.

[BKlutch]

Frazier was an allstar and played until 1979. Reed retired in '74. If you could find some stats, you'd know that.

But yeah, in 1973 they won their last championshp together with Dave DeBusschere. Why do I mention him? The trade for DeBusschere was just like our trade for Anunoby - traded away real talent to get them, but we were incredibly better after the trade.

yea i neither watched them or looked up detailed information about the dynamics and actual teams.

but as i already implied besides those teams and ewing i couldnt imagine anybody was better. thats all i was trying to figure out. didnt try to attack anybody

Clyde is our spirit animal

Clyde as our spirit animal or our announcer animal approves of Brunson.Remember, Brunson's hesitation dribble is based on Clyde's stutter step.

[dakomish23]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

I’ve been saying this for weeks and it’s not to attack Hart. It’s an indictment on Thibs. Luckily, we’ve been roasting teams. But an example where that killed us was vs MIN. they kept collapsing in the 4th. We should have had DDV or at least Grimes out there. But no, Thibs went with Hart. And when OG fouled out, he only replaced him with DDV even though Hart wasn’t doing it.

Could potentially be an issue come playoff time

[dakomish23]

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Idk if he’s better than Lin it’s close but he’s definitely better than Clyde!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what passes for Knicks media? We knew this since last year. Thank goodness for KFTV.

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[Capn'O]

Jalen Brunson has the _opportunity_ to establish himself as the greatest Knick.

Now there's a proclamation!

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But also well guarded since he would need the championship hardware to get there.

[Clyde_Style]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

I’ve been saying this for weeks and it’s not to attack Hart. It’s an indictment on Thibs. Luckily, we’ve been roasting teams. But an example where that killed us was vs MIN. they kept collapsing in the 4th. We should have had DDV or at least Grimes out there. But no, Thibs went with Hart. And when OG fouled out, he only replaced him with DDV even though Hart wasn’t doing it.

Could potentially be an issue come playoff time

Some here don't want to hear it (i.e., "how dare you trash our best coach since blah blah blah"), but our playoff ceiling with the current roster is based on two things:

Thibs getting outcoached
Randle melting down

Both are fairly inevitable the deeper we go into the playoffs

[dakomish23]

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

I’ve been saying this for weeks and it’s not to attack Hart. It’s an indictment on Thibs. Luckily, we’ve been roasting teams. But an example where that killed us was vs MIN. they kept collapsing in the 4th. We should have had DDV or at least Grimes out there. But no, Thibs went with Hart. And when OG fouled out, he only replaced him with DDV even though Hart wasn’t doing it.

Could potentially be an issue come playoff time

Some here don't want to hear it (i.e., "how dare you trash our best coach since blah blah blah"), but our playoff ceiling with the current roster is based on two things:

Thibs getting outcoached
Randle melting down

Both are fairly inevitable the deeper we go into the playoffs

making such a declaration is clearly ignoring the fact we finally addressed the gaping wound we’ve had at PG for over a decade. He is the reason why we have had this much success under Thibs. Yes Thibs is a solid coach. But he can be out coached and he often refuses to adjust to what’s happening in the moment. Like us doubling Jimmy before he even does anything with the ball.

Randle is gonna have all eyes on him this playoffs. Everyone knows he’s an all NBA caliber talent.

I wouldn’t say either or both are inevitable. But it’s def in the realm of possibility.

[K_ick_God]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

On the one hand I agree but on the other, and I’ve thought about this a lot embarrassingly, if you play a guy when he’s “hot” or sit him when he’s not, you’ll inevitably play a guy into cold streaks or miss the hot streaks.

Then it’s possible you’ll toss away future hot streaks by throwing off a guy’s rhythm or confidence by messing with his time.

So, there’s a logical argument to be made against that.

Again. I feel the same. But, you can’t predict the future. No player tells in a few minutes what the rest of their minutes are gonna look like with any reliability probably.

[Clyde_Style]

I’ve been saying this for weeks and it’s not to attack Hart. It’s an indictment on Thibs. Luckily, we’ve been roasting teams. But an example where that killed us was vs MIN. they kept collapsing in the 4th. We should have had DDV or at least Grimes out there. But no, Thibs went with Hart. And when OG fouled out, he only replaced him with DDV even though Hart wasn’t doing it.

Could potentially be an issue come playoff time

Some here don't want to hear it (i.e., "how dare you trash our best coach since blah blah blah"), but our playoff ceiling with the current roster is based on two things:

Thibs getting outcoached
Randle melting down

Both are fairly inevitable the deeper we go into the playoffs

making such a declaration is clearly ignoring the fact we finally addressed the gaping wound we’ve had at PG for over a decade. He is the reason why we have had this much success under Thibs. Yes Thibs is a solid coach. But he can be out coached and he often refuses to adjust to what’s happening in the moment. Like us doubling Jimmy before he even does anything with the ball.

Randle is gonna have all eyes on him this playoffs. Everyone knows he’s an all NBA caliber talent.

I wouldn’t say either or both are inevitable. But it’s def in the realm of possibility.

Brunson does raise the ceiling on both Thibs and Randle for sure. Randle has to take advantage of Brunson spacing the floor and not get caught in traps which we all know spazzes him out like a pomeranian on blow. I don't think his melt downs are avoidable, but they can be minimized by moving the ball and moving your feet when you don't have the ball (on both ends).

Thibs, however, will always get outcoached by the likes of Spo. How does a guy say at a presser he should have doubled Jimmy when we're here screaming all game long to double Jimmy? He is paid the big bucks to see the obvious, yet somehow he often cannot.

Thibs has blinders. Once he locks into a rotation choice he often cannot see what is not working and how to counter that. I have no faith in Thibs coaching any team to a championship without having the best players on the floor. If we have a better starting unit then maybe we win, but at that point we'd win because of talent, not because of Thibs.

[Clyde_Style]

Hart is too tentative but he’s also a conscientious player who doesn’t want to make a shot just to make a shot, and I appreciate that about him. He’s trying to do good out there, even if he lacks some confidence.

He does have stretches where he wakes up the team and energizes us with his hustle, boarding, outlet passes and bringing the ball upcourt in a hurry. The key with Hart is to keep him in when he is being effective. The problem is when Thibs overplays him regardless of what kind of game he is having.

On the one hand I agree but on the other, and I’ve thought about this a lot embarrassingly, if you play a guy when he’s “hot” or sit him when he’s not, you’ll inevitably play a guy into cold streaks or miss the hot streaks.

Then it’s possible you’ll toss away future hot streaks by throwing off a guy’s rhythm or confidence by messing with his time.

So, there’s a logical argument to be made against that.

Again. I feel the same. But, you can’t predict the future. No player tells in a few minutes what the rest of their minutes are gonna look like with any reliability probably.

Guys are talking about Hart playing over 30 minutes in games when he's underperforming. I don't think your point is valid regarding a bench piece and role player like Hart, because it is beyond obvious when he's lifting us up or dragging us down. He still gets enough minutes as it is if you sit him during a bad stretch.