2023-2024 Regular Season Game 44: Cleveland Cavaliers (25-15) at Orlando Magic (23-20) - 7pm

thelead · Post #461 » by **thelead** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:09 am

I honestly would trade Cole for Tyus... I just don't think they'd bite... contract situation and all

ibraheim718 · Post #462 » by **ibraheim718** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:09 am

They need to go get a table setter. That's it.

VFX · Post #463 » by **VFX** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:10 am

Happens all the time in most professional sports. Have a great win the day before and just completely blow the next game resting on your laurels.

This team is young and inexperienced. The roster still doesn’t really make sense. Never did since Weltman and co took over.

Optimus_Steel · Post #464 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:10 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Can't agree with what? I didn't say anything unfactual lol. They led or were in every game for about a quarter of the season.

The first game they had no chance in was the Brooklyn game that ended our win streak, 20+ games into the season.

Since then, we got blown out vs. Boston, Philly, Minnty, etc.

But I can show you literally every team in the NBA getting blown out multiple times this year.

My point is since December and at home multiple times in not even close blow outs where they just quit fairly early. This team is getting butt rammed at home consistently now, that’s a bad sign.

I honestly don't think the team is always quitting, I honestly think that they are so overmatched because they can't shoot.

You can’t tell me they didn’t quit. They got blitz in the first and just quit. They stopped rotating on defense, they stopped going hard after loose balls, gave up offensive rebounds, left the paint open, they just settled for contested shots, that’s a sign of a team that quit. Down 30+ points but they didn’t quit…

Post #465 » by **Bensational** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:11 am

Knightro wrote:Imagine thinking Mosley before the game sat everybody down in the locker room and told them the GAMEPLAN was...

"I want Wendell to get a certain amount of shots in the first half and I want you to seek him out for those shots because we like the Allen matchup"

Imagine thinking that with a straight face. Holy hell.

Imagine not being able to comprehend a comment properly.

Imagine thinking a coach doesn’t have a gameplan.

Imagine thinking there aren’t offensive focal points within a gameplan.

ibraheim718 · Post #466 » by **ibraheim718** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:11 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

My point is since December and at home multiple times in not even close blow outs where they just quit fairly early. This team is getting butt rammed at home consistently now, that’s a bad sign.

I honestly don't think the team is always quitting, I honestly think that they are so overmatched because they can't shoot.

You can’t tell me they didn’t quit. They got blitz in the first and just quit. They stopped rotating on defense, they stopped going hard after loose balls, gave up offensive rebounds, left the paint open, they just settled for contested shots, that’s a sign of a team that quit. Down 30+ points but they didn’t quit…

They weren't prepared of the speed Cleveland played with.

Post #467 » by **ChosenSavior** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:12 am

Queen a more functional PG than Cole lol

Post #468 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:13 am

Meanwhile, Embiid may go for 70.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #469 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:14 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:

My point is since December and at home multiple times in not even close blow outs where they just quit fairly early. This team is getting butt rammed at home consistently now, that’s a bad sign.

I honestly don't think the team is always quitting, I honestly think that they are so overmatched because they can't shoot.

You can’t tell me they didn’t quit. They got blitz in the first and just quit. They stopped rotating on defense, they stopped going hard after loose balls, gave up offensive rebounds, left the paint open, they just settled for contested shots, that’s a sign of a team that quit. Down 30+ points but they didn’t quit…

Yes, their offensive does affect their defense.

Post #470 » by **ChosenSavior** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:14 am

That fat boy ain't gonna do anything lol

basketballRob · Post #471 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:14 am

thelead wrote:I honestly would trade Cole for Tyus... I just don't think they'd bite... contract situation and all

They took on Bagley for 2 expiring contracts.

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Post #472 » by **eyriq** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:15 am

My Chuma stock plummeting

ibraheim718 · Post #473 » by **ibraheim718** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:15 am

Bitadze = real hustle
WCJ = fake hustle

Post #474 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:15 am

Bensational wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:What did I call “a play”? I said “gameplan”. That’s your disconnect, not mine.

Just nonsense stuff from somebody who doesn't really understand basketball.

This from the guy who thinks plays don’t exist. No such thing as organisation and planning in basketball, it’s just “read and react” and “make or miss” empty rhetoric right?

Plays do exist. For guys who handle the basketball.

The Magic don't really call post ups for Wendell. They don't really let him work in isolation from the elbows. He doesn't get basically any traditional plays called specifically for him to take the basketball and try and attempt a shot.

He's the beneficiary sometimes of plays called for other people who draw defenders over and then pass him the ball. But that's not the friggin game plan for goodness sake.

Being a big who sets a screen and then becomes one of 3-4 possible options for a pass is not the coach deciding before the game that the plan of attack is center against a certain matchup.

My goodness.

Post #475 » by **ChosenSavior** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:16 am

eyriq wrote:My Chuma stock plummeting

Sell, sell, sell

thelead · Post #476 » by **thelead** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:17 am

basketballRob wrote:
thelead wrote:I honestly would trade Cole for Tyus... I just don't think they'd bite... contract situation and all
They took on Bagley for 2 expiring contracts.

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good point. Let's let Weltman know that other teams are open to making trades

Post #477 » by **FFBlitzace** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:17 am

The team would benefit greatly if the All Star break happened right now. We went through a tough stretch while banged up, lost some heartbreakers, still don't have a set lineup every night. I think that frustration has resulted in a loss of focus. We've been a terrible shooting team the whole way, that's just who we are. But our defensive intensity has slipped and we're killing ourselves more than we did early on. I believe we can get back to that. Doesn't make things any more fun right now, however.

Post #478 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:17 am

So, what did y'all eat for dinner?

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #479 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:18 am

SOUL wrote:So, what did y'all eat for dinner?

I should have bought PapaJohn pizza for 50% off.

Optimus_Steel · Post #480 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:18 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I honestly don't think the team is always quitting, I honestly think that they are so overmatched because they can't shoot.

You can’t tell me they didn’t quit. They got blitz in the first and just quit. They stopped rotating on defense, they stopped going hard after loose balls, gave up offensive rebounds, left the paint open, they just settled for contested shots, that’s a sign of a team that quit. Down 30+ points but they didn’t quit…

Yes, their offensive does affect their defense.

Which tells me they still have a losers mentality and have a long way to go still despite the clear shooting deficiencies in the roster. I’m not saying they should have won this game but you allow a team to waltz to a 30+ lead at home, in front on your home fans that says a lot.