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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1501 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:35 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Not sure where you're getting this "new guy has to be expiring" thing.

No, he doesn't. You can move Duncan and get a PF making long term money. Easy.


We have to avoid the 2nd apron now, Roziers long term money has made it a necessity. We will not be acquiring anyone with long term money unless a top 20 or so player requests Miami
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Post#1504 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:36 pm

I'd say logically if you were to trade Duncan that maybe half of his money you would want as expiring but if you want what was supposed to be Lowry's money coming off the books then having the 20-22 million coming off is the better scenario moving forward.
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Post#1505 » by Dc__20 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:37 pm

Awesome! I’ll remember Lowry hit ahead pass, charges drawn and reverse Round fadeaway in the playoffs. That’s it! Good riddance and welcome scary T
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Post#1508 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:40 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:Not sure where you're getting this "new guy has to be expiring" thing.

No, he doesn't. You can move Duncan and get a PF making long term money. Easy.


We have to avoid the 2nd apron now, Roziers long term money has made it a necessity. We will not be acquiring anyone with long term money unless a top 20 or so player requests Miami


We can add Bojan or Kuzma (just examples) for Duncan, let Martin walk, and easily be under the second apron. Could keep Highsmith on a smallish deal even.
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Post#1511 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:42 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:Not sure where you're getting this "new guy has to be expiring" thing.

No, he doesn't. You can move Duncan and get a PF making long term money. Easy.


We have to avoid the 2nd apron now, Roziers long term money has made it a necessity. We will not be acquiring anyone with long term money unless a top 20 or so player requests Miami


We can add Bojan or Kuzma (just examples) for Duncan, let Martin walk, and easily be under the second apron. Could keep Highsmith on a smallish deal even.


Bojan yes. Kuzma no. This is about next season
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Post#1513 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:44 pm

Our next move should be to convert Cain and sign Alondes Williams to a two way deal. We'd still be able to participate in the buyout market.

Looking at our depth chart

Pg: Rozier / Richardson / Hampton (2) / Smith (IR)
Sg: Herro / D. Robinson / Williams (2)
Sf: Butler / Jaquez / Cain / Swider (2)
Pf: Jovic / Love / Martin / Highsmith
C: Adebayo / Bryant / O. Robinson

Our power rotation is the weak spot but we're limited on assets. We cannot afford to keep Martin so including him in trade makes sense. We could trade Herro for an expiring player and a first (basically recoup our assets) and start Robinson, which would allow us to retain Martin and use retain flexibility. Of course, the same could be done with Robinson but I don't think we'll find anyone willing to give up a first for him.

Given his injuries, his contract, and the overlap with Rozier, I would trade Herro and I'd be targeting Kelly Olynyk, THT, and a first round pick
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Post#1515 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:46 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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We have to avoid the 2nd apron now, Roziers long term money has made it a necessity. We will not be acquiring anyone with long term money unless a top 20 or so player requests Miami


We can add Bojan or Kuzma (just examples) for Duncan, let Martin walk, and easily be under the second apron. Could keep Highsmith on a smallish deal even.


Bojan yes. Kuzma no. This is about next season


Go look at next year's numbers. We can. Both
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Post#1516 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:51 pm

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Given his injuries, his contract, and the overlap with Rozier, I would trade Herro and I'd be targeting Kelly Olynyk, THT, and a first round pick



Jesus Christ man, what is this wired attraction to THT?!?! He's trash....Kelly is a nice 3rd big that gets played off the floor when you need defense from your bigs...

Some of you are really selling Herro low.....
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Post#1518 » by dshearn » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:57 pm

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It’s time! But realistically I know who’s going to be asked to sacrifice their offense and it’s unfortunate

historically we have seen Bam and Jimmy sink into the shadows

It will be very interesting to see what happens....

I wonder how many times Terry brings the ball up the court and goes right into "scoring mode", we see Herro do that from time to time too... it will be interesting to see how that plays out with Miami allowing everyone to bring the ball up the court.

We have given Herro a pass on some ugly ball this year, with the caveat "maybe he had too" due to talent issues on the court. Us fans felt that well, at least to different degrees...I wonder how the Team feels about it.

So I am right there with you on poor unfortunate bam being asked to give up some offense....and honestly...I think with the Bam/Herro game, Bam/Duncan game...they should add the Bam/Terry game and work from the middle of the court outwards to cutting wings, then to JJJ/Jimmy post stuff....

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Post#1519 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:59 pm

Just curious.. has Rozier done enough to be an allstar this year?
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Post#1520 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:00 pm

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We can add Bojan or Kuzma (just examples) for Duncan, let Martin walk, and easily be under the second apron. Could keep Highsmith on a smallish deal even.


Bojan yes. Kuzma no. This is about next season


Go look at next year's numbers. We can. Both


Kuzma $24M
Rozier $25M
Herro $29M
Bam $35M
Jimmy $49M

Total $162M

2nd Apron $182M

You have $20M to fill out 10 roster spots, it’s not going to work.

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