Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0

[Shewasfly]

I told yall that they were going to get somebody. You will see more engagement from Jimmy now.
Also don't be surprised if another move isn't made.
Anyways, bye.

[IceColdCubano]

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We could just bite the bullet and keep him for this last playoff run as well.

The thing is unless you can clearly get an upgrade over Caleb, you keep him and his playoff experience with this group. By next season losing him is not much because you would have JJJ with another year of growth ready to be a bigger performer at the wing, He is already overall better than Caleb in his first year, but doesn't not have that playoff experience and savvy just yet. Also you have to think that Miami needs him to expire regardless or they will be over the 2nd Apron for sure. Therefore any swaps using him need to be for a player who will equally be expiring or team option for next year.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Let's just agree that peak Bam will hover between top 20-30 player in the league until he develops a consistent three-point shot. And unless he gets a ring, probably won't qualify for the HOF.

Damn, no one agreed.

I’ll take the loss like you did with Bosh vs. Bam poll.

Hey it’s all good, to this day no one built an even respectable argument for Bosh, it was all just straight up name recognition lol. He’s got a better deep jump shot I’ll give him that’s, outside of that…….

Meanwhile at Bams current trajectory he will just continue to prove I was right about that AND is a lock for hall of fame so you’ll be wrong on that too whether he wins a championship or not

[Lennyzinho]

I'd wait until we start feeling bad for Adrian Griffin. He could have done something wild, like Udoka and violated internal rules and there could be more news coming out. That or the Bucks roster went full riot mode with the GM. I've never seen a first year coach with a 30-13 record fired before. He's making 4M a year and signed a multi-year deal (no clue how many years but can it really be less than 3-4?)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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We could just bite the bullet and keep him for this last playoff run as well.

The thing is unless you can clearly get an upgrade over Caleb, you keep him and his playoff experience with this group. By next season losing him is not much because you would have JJJ with another year of growth ready to be a bigger performer at the wing, He is already overall better than Caleb in his first year, but doesn't not have that playoff experience and savvy just yet. Also you have to think that Miami needs him to expire regardless or they will be over the 2nd Apron for sure. Therefore any swaps using him need to be for a player who will equally be expiring or team option for next year.

Having JJJ Highsmith and Cain with a potential PJ Tucker buyout coming up as well does make me wonder if Miami will one, try to recoup a pick or something with Martin and 2, will explore tossing him with Duncan to a team interested in him for expiring contracts/an asset

[BBallFreak]

Given his injuries, his contract, and the overlap with Rozier, I would trade Herro and I'd be targeting Kelly Olynyk, THT, and a first round pick

Jesus Christ man, what is this wired attraction to THT?!?! He's trash....Kelly is a nice 3rd big that gets played off the floor when you need defense from your bigs...

Some of you are really selling Herro low.....

Exactly this^

We just dealt a useless expiring and a first for Rozier. What makes Herro so much better than Terry?

[Wiltside]

Thought we might have parlayed this deal into Washington or Bridges, but let’s see what else they have up their sleeve. The 4 is a clear hole at this stage, albeit Jaquez and Jimmy will probably get a bit of run there.

[Hallstar]

Jesus Christ man, what is this wired attraction to THT?!?! He's trash....Kelly is a nice 3rd big that gets played off the floor when you need defense from your bigs...

Some of you are really selling Herro low.....

Exactly this^

We just dealt a useless expiring and a first for Rozier. What makes Herro so much better than Terry?

Are we having a fire sale?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Terry without Lamelo: 25-4-7.5-1.5 steals with 46/38/87 shooting splits, 8 3 point attempts and 5 free throw attempts a game.

He put these numbers up on 19.1 shots a game and a 28.9 usage rate. Herro averages almost identical usage at 18.9 shots a game and 29.2 usage rate.

You maximize our best 3 level scorer by moving Tyler to the bench for a specialist (Duncan) or someone like Martin if Duncan is traded and just straight up giving him Herros shots and usage and you may even see an increase in efficiency (so better scoring) with Rozier playing off of Jimmy and Bam.

You also now have Tyler in the role that is best for him as the 6 man and you have Highsmith and Duncan starting which is when the team has seen its most success.

We won’t do this from the start and will likely have to slump for them to consider it but this is how you maximize this team, a trial and error period isn’t really necessary

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Thought we might have parlayed this deal into Washington or Bridges, but let’s see what else they have up their sleeve. The 4 is a clear hole at this stage, albeit Jaquez and Jimmy will probably get a bit of run there.

Spo loved Caleb and Highsmith there, I’m not sure he’s worried about that position but I’d love to see another upgrade somewhere for sure. We need a little bit of a consolidation trade

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[inhabitMiami]

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He keeps mentioning the Lowry thing like dude won't show up lmaooo

[Umbooki]

All that just to hire Doc, eh?

[IceColdCubano]

Thought we might have parlayed this deal into Washington or Bridges, but let’s see what else they have up their sleeve. The 4 is a clear hole at this stage, albeit Jaquez and Jimmy will probably get a bit of run there.

Spo loved Caleb and Highsmith there, I’m not sure he’s worried about that position but I’d love to see another upgrade somewhere for sure. We need a little bit of a consolidation trade

AN upgrade for a starting level PF would be icing on this cake to be honest, something is missing in our starting lineup a 3&D, Screening PF that is 6'-9" + would be amazing.

[BBallFreak]

Exactly this^

We just dealt a useless expiring and a first for Rozier. What makes Herro so much better than Terry?

Are we having a fire sale?

I didn't say we were. I said that's his value around the league and, given our luxury tax issues and depth on the wing, he's the guy who should go. Olynyk gives us a big who can instantly slot in next to Bam and getting a first allows us to make another trade or two.

[oreon]

Watched ESPN NBA today and they didn't even talk about the Heat trade. What's the point of the show. NBA media coverage sucks. Maybe they were pissed Shams broke it first

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Thought we might have parlayed this deal into Washington or Bridges, but let’s see what else they have up their sleeve. The 4 is a clear hole at this stage, albeit Jaquez and Jimmy will probably get a bit of run there.

Spo loved Caleb and Highsmith there, I’m not sure he’s worried about that position but I’d love to see another upgrade somewhere for sure. We need a little bit of a consolidation trade

AN upgrade for a starting level PF would be icing on this cake to be honest, something is missing in our starting lineup a 3&D, Screening PF that is 6'-9" + would be amazing.

That’s going to be tough to find on an expiring contract though

[Bourne85]

Watched ESPN NBA today and they didn't even talk about the Heat trade. What's the point of the show. NBA media coverage sucks. Maybe they were pissed Shams broke it first

It’s not a substantial move lol. We cut salary and got a guy that takes 20 shots to get 20 points on a terrible team. Some of you are REALLY overhyping this trade up and are setting up for massive disappointment. This was a tax saving move which is why Mickey approved it in his sleep.

[AirP.]

We just dealt a useless expiring and a first for Rozier. What makes Herro so much better than Terry?

Are we having a fire sale?

I didn't say we were. I said that's his value around the league and, given our luxury tax issues and depth on the wing, he's the guy who should go. Olynyk gives us a big who can instantly slot in next to Bam and getting a first allows us to make another trade or two.

People haven't realized the shot distribution will be changing dramatically for some players. Miami is adding a scoring PG vs a PG who was allowing everyone else to shoot, so that's a pretty large change and when this team is healthy Jaquez Jr should be getting more shots, Martin should be getting more shots and where are all those shots coming from? Probably not Butler, maybe some from Bam and probably a bunch from Herro and if Herro's volume drops so does his value since his value is his volume scoring although he's an inefficient scorer with a guy that has such a good outside shot. If Herro's role starts to be reduced to a spot up shooter, he'll be a vastly overpaid in his role as a spot up shooter and I'm not sure he'll be happy in that role since he has much higher aspirations for his career.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Thought we might have parlayed this deal into Washington or Bridges, but let’s see what else they have up their sleeve. The 4 is a clear hole at this stage, albeit Jaquez and Jimmy will probably get a bit of run there.

Spo loved Caleb and Highsmith there, I’m not sure he’s worried about that position but I’d love to see another upgrade somewhere for sure. We need a little bit of a consolidation trade

It’s funny watching Heat twitter trying to throw the possibility of trading Duncan under the rug and are somehow focused on trading Caleb as if his small salary would bring anything significant in return or mean anything for next years cap. Caleb making 6.8 is 20 times better then what you are getting back in trade for while on the other hand trading Duncan’s 19.4 will actually get you something close to his production on an expiring deal or two players.