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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1841 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:08 am

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Players are shooting 17% against Bam in isolation, hes about to get absolutely ROBBED again in broad daylight. Somethings got to give at some point

Same for Spo COY, got the 1st seed and lost it to Monty who got fired the next year and now you see what he’s doing in Detroit.

Frauds everywhere getting recognition they don’t deserve based on media narratives, hate to see it
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Post#1842 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:10 am

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The ball is in Lowrys court for Roziers debut tomorrow, take your physically fatty
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The ball is in Lowrys court for Roziers debut tomorrow, take your physically fatty


I’m mentally ready for Lowry to let me down one last time.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

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Post#1845 » by twix2500 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:22 am

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I’m in here literally handing you all the key to success, you can either get with the agenda or you can get lost!!!!!


It should be Martin, not Highsmith
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Post#1846 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:28 am

twix2500 wrote:
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I’m in here literally handing you all the key to success, you can either get with the agenda or you can get lost!!!!!


It should be Martin, not Highsmith


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Post#1847 » by fishfuego. » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:30 am

Bourne85 wrote:
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Yea on paper we are better than last years version of ourselves. However, the problem is Boston got MUCH better than last years version of them, so did Milwaukee. Right now it feels like we are playing catch up, and they are a couple laps ahead


Very skeptical that Boston is better in the playoff game than last year.

**Checks Kristaps Porzingis playoff resume**

2020 (3 games): 23 ppg; 9 rpg; injured and couldn't play in half the series; team lost the series
2021 (7 games): 13 ppg; 5 rpg; team lost the series


They also got Jrue. Like it or not they are better. Their record shows they are better as well. They were also on a 25+ home win streak. Sometimes we have to put away the homer glasses and acknowledge the competition


Let’s not forget that Herro was out for like 18 games, and Butler was also out for a chunk of games. JJJ has been out for a few games now, and Caleb was out a chunk as well.
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Post#1848 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:44 am

I just cracked the code for our 2nd apron issues of the future while retaining our 3 specialist and also improving our team while recouping draft assets as well.

With the deal I’m also giving us the flexibility to sign Hayward and/or Tucker via buyout.

Part 1: Martin and a 2nd to OKC for Aaron Wiggins and our 1st back.

I’ve been on part 2 for a few days now so idk how it slipped my mind post Terry trade but it makes even more sense now.

Part 2: Herro Bryant and Smith to Utah for Sexton KO and a 1st.

I’m getting us a great option at the 4 and backup 5 in KO and I’m getting you a better player than Herro who’s making $10M less that Herro. We’re shedding like $15M-$17M in salary for next season in this deal I believe.

I’m taking advantage of Ainges love for Herro here, if they want send a 1st try to get some 2nds, if they won’t send 2nds just do it straight up for the players.

I’m also taking advantage of Utah and OKC each have FIFTEEN 1sts, that is insane. OKC has 21 2nds, Utah only 2. That’s if everything I’m seeing is correct on the trade machine.

What the hell are these teams waiting for?!

Rozier/Jrich
Sexton/Drob or vice versa
Jimmy/JJJ
KO/Highsmith or vice versa
Bam/Love

We have the assets for a star if all break well too.

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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1849 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:45 am

fishfuego. wrote:
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Very skeptical that Boston is better in the playoff game than last year.

**Checks Kristaps Porzingis playoff resume**

2020 (3 games): 23 ppg; 9 rpg; injured and couldn't play in half the series; team lost the series
2021 (7 games): 13 ppg; 5 rpg; team lost the series


They also got Jrue. Like it or not they are better. Their record shows they are better as well. They were also on a 25+ home win streak. Sometimes we have to put away the homer glasses and acknowledge the competition


Let’s not forget that Herro was out for like 18 games, and Butler was also out for a chunk of games. JJJ has been out for a few games now, and Caleb was out a chunk as well.


We were better with Herro out
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Post#1850 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:57 am

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daviddpc wrote:If we can manage to trade Calab Martin to OKC for our 25 1RP we than have access to 3 First round picks,. 24, 26 and 30 along with Herro we'll be able to get an Allstar type of player that can be the missing piece.
But why do they want Caleb?


Cheap contract, instantly their best bench player. Big moments with Big game experience for a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs.

Expiring contract, they already have wing depth, he's not worth a first to them
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Post#1851 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:05 am

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BBallFreak wrote:But why do they want Caleb?


Cheap contract, instantly their best bench player. Big moments with Big game experience for a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs.

Expiring contract, they already have wing depth, he's not worth a first to them


They have little to no depth outside the starters and a backup PF and SG, they have no one with playoff experience and they’re receiving a 2nd, they have a ridiculous amount of 1sts so who knows how they value all of them.

We’ve done plenty of work with OKC in recent years and have a good relationship, I defintely think we can work something out.
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Post#1852 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:09 am

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Cheap contract, instantly their best bench player. Big moments with Big game experience for a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs.

Expiring contract, they already have wing depth, he's not worth a first to them


They have little to no depth outside the starters and a backup PF and SG, they have no one with playoff experience and they’re receiving a 2nd, they have a ridiculous amount of 1sts so who knows how they value all of them.

We’ve done plenty of work with OKC in recent years and have a good relationship, I defintely think we can work something out.

I think that the idea that Caleb Martin on an expiring deal is somehow worth a first because we've got a good relationship with them is quite leap of logic.

But I would suggest that, if you feel strongly about it, bring it to the trade board. They'll let you know if it's fair...
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Post#1853 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:16 am

BBallFreak wrote:
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BBallFreak wrote:Expiring contract, they already have wing depth, he's not worth a first to them


They have little to no depth outside the starters and a backup PF and SG, they have no one with playoff experience and they’re receiving a 2nd, they have a ridiculous amount of 1sts so who knows how they value all of them.

We’ve done plenty of work with OKC in recent years and have a good relationship, I defintely think we can work something out.

I think that the idea that Caleb Martin on an expiring deal is somehow worth a first because we've got a good relationship with them is quite leap of logic.

But I would suggest that, if you feel strongly about it, bring it to the trade board. They'll let you know if it's fair...


I mean he can be retained and we can sit here and nitpick trades all day, we did it with Rozier too. Have to include Jovic, need 2 1sts, have to include swaps, have to help them shed more long term salary, etc. end of the day none of that stuff was needed

I stand on what I said and I don’t care enough to take it to the trade board. If it hurts you that much that I mentioned it throw it out and do the Utah deal I COOKED
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Post#1854 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:35 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
They have little to no depth outside the starters and a backup PF and SG, they have no one with playoff experience and they’re receiving a 2nd, they have a ridiculous amount of 1sts so who knows how they value all of them.

We’ve done plenty of work with OKC in recent years and have a good relationship, I defintely think we can work something out.

I think that the idea that Caleb Martin on an expiring deal is somehow worth a first because we've got a good relationship with them is quite leap of logic.

But I would suggest that, if you feel strongly about it, bring it to the trade board. They'll let you know if it's fair...


I mean he can be retained and we can sit here and nitpick trades all day, we did it with Rozier too. Have to include Jovic, need 2 1sts, have to include swaps, have to help them shed more long term salary, etc. end of the day none of that stuff was needed

I stand on what I said and I don’t care enough to take it to the trade board. If it hurts you that much that I mentioned it throw it out and do the Utah deal I COOKED

Lol. Whatever, my friend. I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. It's a bad deal for OKC but if you like it for them, good for you.
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Post#1855 » by MorbidHEAT » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:40 am

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DayofMourning wrote:I like how weve added JJJ, Rozier and Herro to the Finals team from last year.


Rozier, Herro and JJJ instead of Vincent, Strus and Lowry. I'll take that....


+ Richardson and Bam and Duncan that have both taken a step up. We are a much deeper team, to be honest. There was a problem, though. Reports suggested that Lowry was the problem. Hopefully we can get it going now.
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Post#1856 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:50 am

BBallFreak wrote:
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BBallFreak wrote:I think that the idea that Caleb Martin on an expiring deal is somehow worth a first because we've got a good relationship with them is quite leap of logic.

But I would suggest that, if you feel strongly about it, bring it to the trade board. They'll let you know if it's fair...


I mean he can be retained and we can sit here and nitpick trades all day, we did it with Rozier too. Have to include Jovic, need 2 1sts, have to include swaps, have to help them shed more long term salary, etc. end of the day none of that stuff was needed

I stand on what I said and I don’t care enough to take it to the trade board. If it hurts you that much that I mentioned it throw it out and do the Utah deal I COOKED

Lol. Whatever, my friend. I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. It's a bad deal for OKC but if you like it for them, good for you.


This coming from the guy who wants to trade our best tradeable asset and the foundation of any star trade salary and upside wise for cap relief, go off though you’re killing it!!!
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1857 » by AirP. » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:58 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I just cracked the code for our 2nd apron issues of the future while retaining our 3 specialist and also improving our team while recouping draft assets as well.

With the deal I’m also giving us the flexibility to sign Hayward and/or Tucker via buyout.

Part 1: Martin and a 2nd to OKC for Aaron Wiggins and our 1st back.

I’ve been on part 2 for a few days now so idk how it slipped my mind post Terry trade but it makes even more sense now.

Part 2: Herro Bryant and Smith to Utah for Sexton KO and a 1st.

I’m getting us a great option at the 4 and backup 5 in KO and I’m getting you a better player than Herro who’s making $10M less that Herro. We’re shedding like $15M-$17M in salary for next season in this deal I believe.

I’m taking advantage of Ainges love for Herro here, if they want send a 1st try to get some 2nds, if they won’t send 2nds just do it straight up for the players.

I’m also taking advantage of Utah and OKC each have FIFTEEN 1sts, that is insane. OKC has 21 2nds, Utah only 2. That’s if everything I’m seeing is correct on the trade machine.

What the hell are these teams waiting for?!

Rozier/Jrich
Sexton/Drob or vice versa
Jimmy/JJJ
KO/Highsmith or vice versa
Bam/Love

We have the assets for a star if all break well too.

Stay tuned.

Why would OKC want 28 year old Martin especially when he could be a free agent next season? They're looking for a big at C or PF to handle the more physical centers to allow Chet not to be bullied as much.
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Post#1858 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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I mean he can be retained and we can sit here and nitpick trades all day, we did it with Rozier too. Have to include Jovic, need 2 1sts, have to include swaps, have to help them shed more long term salary, etc. end of the day none of that stuff was needed

I stand on what I said and I don’t care enough to take it to the trade board. If it hurts you that much that I mentioned it throw it out and do the Utah deal I COOKED

Lol. Whatever, my friend. I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. It's a bad deal for OKC but if you like it for them, good for you.


This coming from the guy who wants to trade our best tradeable asset and the foundation of any star trade salary and upside wise for cap relief, go off though you’re killing it!!!

*Sigh*

This is more than what we just gave (Olynyk is very playable) for Terry Rozier. Please tell me why Herro is so much more valuable? And the benefits go far beyond what we get in terms of a trade. We'd be getting a first which allows us to make more moves, and all the money we get is expiring which let's us retain Caleb Martin and use our Tax Payer's MLE next year. It gets us far away from the second apron next year and beyond. Herro is imminently replaceable. Duncan Robinson has been phenomenal filling in for him.

It's a financially responsible move that let's us make further trades. You may not like it. I don't care, but please tell me where my logic is flawed.
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1859 » by Beenie » Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:09 am

Dinwiddie, DFS, pick for Herro and Martin
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Re: Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 3.0 

Post#1860 » by greg4012 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:12 am

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I’ll take the loss like you did with Bosh vs. Bam poll.


Hey it’s all good, to this day no one built an even respectable argument for Bosh, it was all just straight up name recognition lol. He’s got a better deep jump shot I’ll give him that’s, outside of that…….

Meanwhile at Bams current trajectory he will just continue to prove I was right about that AND is a lock for hall of fame so you’ll be wrong on that too whether he wins a championship or not :lol:


I'm one of the biggest Bam stans here, so I hope he continues to improve to the point of HOF lock. Thinking of similar players to him, Kemp and Stoudemire haven't made it, and we'll see if Blake makes it. So he'll have to put up a resume better than theirs.


The first thing to highlight in any Bam archetype comparison is being a perennial DPOY candidate. Neither Kemp (whom Bam has already surpassed IMO) nor Amare ever sniffed an all-defense team.

I do agree that Bam should be compared to an Amare career arc in terms of impact to date.

Championships speak loudly for HOF candidacy.

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