Griffin fired!- Doc Hired - Joerger likely on his way

[Profound23]

Hire Joe Barry IMO.

After we fired Griff, I turned to my son and said "If you have been paying attention the past month there is only one person who can fix this defense, Joe BARRY."

[raferfenix]

Marc Stein reported yesterday Giannis prevented Nurse. Seems significant.

I think we all wanted Nurse, unfortunately, Giannis didn’t for whatever reason. Probably still salty over the 2019 playoffs. Seeing what Nurse is doing in Philly knowing that could be us makes me so sad.

Are we sure Nurse didn't choose Philly over Milwaukee?

It was reported at the time Giannis chose Griffin. Immediately afterwards it was reported Nurse pulled out by the PR department of his agent.

[jimmybones]

It’s pure comedy how much people are willing to shift the goalposts. So, I guess, Doc only won with Boston because of the roster. But in Philly they choked because of him. Got it

[JayMKE]

How was the experience of playing under Doc Rivers. What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers' coaching style?

MG: I didn’t have the best time with Doc Rivers, unfortunately. He’s a good dude and great to talk to with incredible stories and a rich history in the NBA. However, I wouldn’t trust his coaching decisions. I just don’t have confidence in them.

What do you mean by that?

Marcin Gortat: I just don’t trust him in many different areas. I’ve been with some of the greatest coaches in the NBA, and one of the best was Stan Van Gundy. Stan is an incredible coach who prepares you for every game and practice. When things get tough in a game and Stan calls a timeout, you know you’ll get valuable information and a play that puts you on the right path. He’s a leader on the bench, and you can trust that next year, Stan will come up with something to make our team better.

.....

Now, going back to Doc, I just don’t trust him. I couldn’t trust him, and that’s it.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/marcin-gortat-randy-wittman-was-the-only-coach-that-was-able-to-control-john-wall/

[WeekapaugGroove]

Hire Joe Barry IMO.

After we fired Griff, I turned to my son and said "If you have been paying attention the past month there is only one person who can fix this defense, Joe BARRY."

Well I have to admit this roster is kind of perfect for Barry's conservative bend don't break style. Although I bet he would slow the offense down to keep the opponent PPG stats down.

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[BuckFan25226]

The Bucks are an ideal team for Doc Rivers. He can execute numerous pick-and-roll plays with Dame and Giannis. Doc, being a players’ coach, can enhance the performance of his star players. The Bucks boast versatility at the 4-5 positions, reminiscent of his squads with the Clippers and Celtics. Moreover, the team has been involved in many close games this season, seemingly adapting to high-pressure situations. Replace Harden and Embiid with Dame and Giannis last season, Sixers might have won against the Celtics.

This is where I'm at. I'm not saying Doc is my #1 choice, but I believe he is a good fit for this team right now.

[MissKhriddleton]

And when you bring up Docs 1 championship in Boston, you can’t be ignorant and forget about just how phenomenal Rajon Rondo was for that team. That was a big 4, not a big 3 and arguably 1 of the best rosters ever constructed in my humble opinion. They made 2 finals appearances in 6 seasons and won 1, but should've been a dynasty by all accounts.

They won the finals immediately, lost in the 2nd round, and then lost the finals and then Lebron went to Miami. Not much more you could squeeze out of that, all these guys were mid 30s by then.

And we have Brook instead of Kendrick Perkins so there.

[ReasonablySober]

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[soxperry]

Im guessing the hold up is the number of years..

Milwaukee is in a low leverage situation. Everyone knows that Doc is the most favorable option. We arent hiring Atkinson for several reasons, he was floated as leverage but its weak.

Milwaukee understandably doesn't want to commit past this season, especially since they are already paying two coaches.

What a god damn mess.

But we get this done. We bring PJ back. We trade for a sg who can defend.

Yeah, i like that

I like your posts but dude comeon you actually think the holdup is because the bucks only wanna give him 1 year.What are you smoking.There isnt a shot in hell the bucks are only offering 1 yeat.He will sign a 3 year deal.Even windy today on nba radio said the same thing.Also mentioned doc likes the bucks aast coaches

I say that because unless Doc can push us to an acceptable end of season result, you'd want to explore coaching options this offseason. So thats one year, for me.

Unless youre willing to pay 4 coaches at the same time...then give him the 3 year lol

[packer396]

How was the experience of playing under Doc Rivers. What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers' coaching style?

MG: I didn’t have the best time with Doc Rivers, unfortunately. He’s a good dude and great to talk to with incredible stories and a rich history in the NBA. However, I wouldn’t trust his coaching decisions. I just don’t have confidence in them.

What do you mean by that?

Marcin Gortat: I just don’t trust him in many different areas. I’ve been with some of the greatest coaches in the NBA, and one of the best was Stan Van Gundy. Stan is an incredible coach who prepares you for every game and practice. When things get tough in a game and Stan calls a timeout, you know you’ll get valuable information and a play that puts you on the right path. He’s a leader on the bench, and you can trust that next year, Stan will come up with something to make our team better.

.....

Now, going back to Doc, I just don’t trust him. I couldn’t trust him, and that’s it.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/marcin-gortat-randy-wittman-was-the-only-coach-that-was-able-to-control-john-wall/

Gortat played one season under Doc when he (Gortat) was pretty much cooked. Not saying he's wrong but Gortat had his minutes cut pretty heavily in his season in LAC so may have an axe to grind

[ILC]

How was the experience of playing under Doc Rivers. What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers' coaching style?

MG: I didn’t have the best time with Doc Rivers, unfortunately. He’s a good dude and great to talk to with incredible stories and a rich history in the NBA. However, I wouldn’t trust his coaching decisions. I just don’t have confidence in them.

What do you mean by that?

Marcin Gortat: I just don’t trust him in many different areas. I’ve been with some of the greatest coaches in the NBA, and one of the best was Stan Van Gundy. Stan is an incredible coach who prepares you for every game and practice. When things get tough in a game and Stan calls a timeout, you know you’ll get valuable information and a play that puts you on the right path. He’s a leader on the bench, and you can trust that next year, Stan will come up with something to make our team better.

.....

Now, going back to Doc, I just don’t trust him. I couldn’t trust him, and that’s it.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/marcin-gortat-randy-wittman-was-the-only-coach-that-was-able-to-control-john-wall/

So it doesn't seem weird to you that he **** on Doc and in the same breath props up SVG? That doesn't make you question that person's opinion?

[soxperry]

I hope this thing about Giannis not wanting Nurse didnt get leaked by the Bucks front office so they can save face for the Griff hire. You dont throw your franchise player under the bus like that, thats just bad for business

[Ron Swanson]

I don't think anyone is under any delusions that Doc is gonna come in and reinvent the wheel or do anything revolutionary from a schematic standpoint. But that's not exactly what you needed from Griffin either. Just needed a leader who could get the players to buy in and implement sensible tweaks to the defense that fit the new personnel. It's not a high bar to clear.

[German Athens]

The Bucks need baseline competency at this point after being well below that mark with Griffin. Doc is at the very least that, and we should perform much better under him.

My worry with Doc is really that he’s had so many players turn on him in the past, and he’s thrown a number of them under the bus. Now, maybe the temperament of our guys will jive better with Doc, and actually winning when it matters has a way of curing interpersonal strife, but that’s my biggest concern.

[SirChurros]

How was the experience of playing under Doc Rivers. What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers' coaching style?

MG: I didn’t have the best time with Doc Rivers, unfortunately. He’s a good dude and great to talk to with incredible stories and a rich history in the NBA. However, I wouldn’t trust his coaching decisions. I just don’t have confidence in them.

What do you mean by that?

Marcin Gortat: I just don’t trust him in many different areas. I’ve been with some of the greatest coaches in the NBA, and one of the best was Stan Van Gundy. Stan is an incredible coach who prepares you for every game and practice. When things get tough in a game and Stan calls a timeout, you know you’ll get valuable information and a play that puts you on the right path. He’s a leader on the bench, and you can trust that next year, Stan will come up with something to make our team better.

.....

Now, going back to Doc, I just don’t trust him. I couldn’t trust him, and that’s it.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/marcin-gortat-randy-wittman-was-the-only-coach-that-was-able-to-control-john-wall/

Pardon me if I’m skeptical of Marcin **** Gortat saying SVG was a great coach and that he couldn’t trust Doc. Reads as “Doc couldn’t help me stay relevant in the league at 34, so **** him.”

[JayMKE]

You guys would be salivating about facing Rivers in the playoffs if he was on another team, I know I was when he was in Philly. Hope really springs eternal tho, this time will really be different. How do you think he's going to get a top 10 defense out of Dame & Beasley in the backcourt? I'd settle for him simply not trying to pressure handhandlers 30+ feet from the basket. Griffin was incompetent on another level and basically frauded his way into a HC job, Doc is just an average not good coach. Both huge downgrades from Budenholzer, who people thought we needed to upgrade from. Team is further away from a championship now than it was last year for sure.

[Shaffty]

Do people really think Embiid/Harden and CP3/Griffin should have won rings??? lol cmon.

How much credit do you give to Doc Rivers for the combined greatness Paul Pierce, KG, and Ray Allen? Danny Ainge more responsible for that ring than Doc and its gotten him a decade+ of work

i would have agreed with you more 6 months ago before i watched adrian griffin **** up the greatness of Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I think we all wanted Nurse, unfortunately, Giannis didn’t for whatever reason. Probably still salty over the 2019 playoffs. Seeing what Nurse is doing in Philly knowing that could be us makes me so sad.

No lies detected or as the kids say, no cap.

Tough scene for those 3 voters right now.

Yeah I wonder how many of those 3 were "do whatever Giannis wants" votes. Hindsight we definitely made the wrong decision, but I wonder if we would've kept bud if we knew we could get Dame.

[ILC]

The Bucks need baseline competency at this point after being well below that mark with Griffin. Doc is at the very least that, and we should perform much better under him.

My worry with Doc is really that he’s had so many players turn on him in the past, and he’s thrown a number of them under the bus. Now, maybe the temperament of our guys will jive better with Doc, and actually winning when it matters has a way of curing interpersonal strife, but that’s my biggest concern.

Bucks will be the first "normal" situation he will be coaching since that young Clippers team before they got Kawhi and PG and before that since first Celtics season.

Even in Boston he had the toxic Rondo-Ray situation, then CP3-Blake, then Ben Simmons, then James Harden.

He has to come to Milwaukee, be a leader, do the simple, baseline level things well and let Dame and Giannis figure out the rest.

[WiscoKing13]

A little OT but this entire situation will make Bud look like a great candidate to a lot of different teams next year.

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