Lawsuit Claims James Dolan Pressured Woman Into Sex

[MrDollarBills]

After Stevie got burned from last year's debacle, he's treating the Mets like a small market team now. Let's see how long that lasts...if I were a Met fan, I'd hope that he makes some good trades in the financial realm so he could open up the purse strings again...

He's able to do things like overpay for old pitchers. Once it doesn't work out, he trades them and gets picks in return because he agrees to still pay majority of the salary. AFAIK, you can't really do that kind of stuff in the NBA.

Isn't Cohen actually doing the right thing long term by pivoting from his initial errors? Just cleaning up those mistakes cost him heavily

[sol537]

I wouldn't mind Cohen at all. Seems like a level-headed guy compared to the nutjob that is Dolan.

[Stannis]

After Stevie got burned from last year's debacle, he's treating the Mets like a small market team now. Let's see how long that lasts...if I were a Met fan, I'd hope that he makes some good trades in the financial realm so he could open up the purse strings again...

He's able to do things like overpay for old pitchers. Once it doesn't work out, he trades them and gets picks in return because he agrees to still pay majority of the salary. AFAIK, you can't really do that kind of stuff in the NBA.

Isn't Cohen actually doing the right thing long term by pivoting from his initial errors? Just cleaning up those mistakes cost him heavily

For the MLB, I would say yes. But I don't think this will translate to a generally good sports/NBA owner.

He was able to trade Scherzer + Verlander and get good return due to the fact that he'll still be paying a lot of the salary. In the NBA, you can't really "clean up" this way.

I'm not sure who the Scherzer or Verlander of the NBA would be. But I will just say Bradley Beal as an example. If Steve Cohen were the Knicks owner, and signed/paid somebody like Beal. The team would be screwed and cap-tied. Even though Beal is a serviceable player, very few teams would want to take the risk and that money. If it was the MLB and Cohen could still pay the salary, it would be different. There would be suitors.

I think good NBA owners are required to be more pragmatic than soccer clubs and baseball teams.

[Luv those Knicks]

I'll wait til the facts are presented here, but seeing Harvey Weinstein's name involved is alarming.

Not as bad as being associated with Epstein.

Out of curiosity, has anyone been associated with Weinstein in this way before? I thought Weinstein was a bastard in private, behind closed doors and he didn't have associates or parties.

[Luv those Knicks]

After Stevie got burned from last year's debacle, he's treating the Mets like a small market team now. Let's see how long that lasts...if I were a Met fan, I'd hope that he makes some good trades in the financial realm so he could open up the purse strings again...

He's able to do things like overpay for old pitchers. Once it doesn't work out, he trades them and gets picks in return because he agrees to still pay majority of the salary. AFAIK, you can't really do that kind of stuff in the NBA.

Isn't Cohen actually doing the right thing long term by pivoting from his initial errors? Just cleaning up those mistakes cost him heavily

Cohen does seem to have learned from his mistakes. The Lindor trade and contract were high. I think he sees that the Verlander contract was a mistake and if he'd signed Correa, that would have been a fumble, so he seems to be taking a more cautious approach. David Stearns seems like a smart guy and a good hire too.

In Dolan's defense, he made huge errors in the past trying to win now and encouraging the trading of future picks to win now approach. He seems a lot less hands on now, so I don't think Dolan is as bad as he used to be. He's easy to dislike for other reasons. The facial recognition software. The feud with Charles Oakley and the years of mismanagement, but in terms of how bad an owner he is now, I think he's not likable, but I don't think he's been a bad owner.

It's easy to point out mistakes Leon has made, but Leon has gotten some stuff right too and the dumping future picks approach has been refersed for the most part, now they acquire future picks. Some of the draft picks have been bad, some of the later picks have been good, but I don't think Dolan had much input on the draft picks.

[MrDollarBills]

I'll wait til the facts are presented here, but seeing Harvey Weinstein's name involved is alarming.

Not as bad as being associated with Epstein.

Out of curiosity, has anyone been associated with Weinstein in this way before? I thought Weinstein was a bastard in private, behind closed doors and he didn't have associates or parties.

Epstein association is beyond the pale, I agree. He was sex trafficking children. Everyone who flew on his plane or visited that island should be scrutinized.

However, I can't make it a pissing contest, for lack of a better phrase, so to say between the two. Weinstein raped and or sexually abused over 109 women. He should have been castrated, but he's currently dying in prison, which is a suitable alternative.

If Dolan assaulted this woman multiple times and then set her up to get raped by Harvey Weinstein, which is being alleged, that's pretty bad, but again, the facts need to be presented before anything else.

[robillionaire]

I hope the entire jury are Knicks fans.

[Clyde_Style]

my sister works construction and has been apart of a project at msg where they’re renovating the basement. she told me one of her coo workers who got laid off tried to go to dolan’s office to let him know he got fired and got turned away by security because you’re not allowed to speak directly to him… so yeah.. guy sounds like a real dick lol

That sounds like any corporation though. You can't walk in on a CEO anywhere else either. That anecdote doesn't necessarily say anything about Dolan in particular.

[Clyde_Style]

As much as we hate Dolan, I'm going to reserve judgment until proof is given. The "summoned" and "felt obligated to submit to sex with him" statements IMO casts shade on the accusations. If she was basically sexually assaulted (which is what the line "[Dolan] allegedly dragged Croft to a couch and forced her between his legs" means, the notion that she can then be "summoned" and feel "obligated to submit" to further sexual assault is hard to believe. Yes this happens more often than not in marriages and similar relationships, but this is not that. Doesn't mean he didn't. Just sounds a little dicey. But if he did it, then yeah, fry the little bastard.

This is a man so thoroughly insulated by an internal system of litigation protection that anybody making allegations would need enough substance to convince very expensive attorneys to take the case forward.

The frivolous sh*t never sees the light of day with strongmen scumbags like Dolan J Trump. What we, as fans of the NBA, should be hoping for here is some kind of public shame smoking gun that forces him out at the NBA, who wants him out, or even better with the shareholders and board at MSG.

I spent a good 20 years with casual access to the league office and can report that 100% of employees, staff, executives, interns, and anyone else who has contact with Dolan wants him out. He is universally loathed.

When you're a silver spoon child with zero talents of your own the outcome is typically you become a dbag with no redeeming qualities or you're a gentleman who knows they won life's golden ticket and you act graciously as a result. We know Dolan is a miserable guy so I'm not surprised at what you're saying.

[HarthorneWingo]

As much as we hate Dolan, I'm going to reserve judgment until proof is given. The "summoned" and "felt obligated to submit to sex with him" statements IMO casts shade on the accusations. If she was basically sexually assaulted (which is what the line "[Dolan] allegedly dragged Croft to a couch and forced her between his legs" means, the notion that she can then be "summoned" and feel "obligated to submit" to further sexual assault is hard to believe. Yes this happens more often than not in marriages and similar relationships, but this is not that. Doesn't mean he didn't. Just sounds a little dicey. But if he did it, then yeah, fry the little bastard.

This is a man so thoroughly insulated by an internal system of litigation protection that anybody making allegations would need enough substance to convince very expensive attorneys to take the case forward.

The frivolous sh*t never sees the light of day with strongmen scumbags like Dolan J Trump. What we, as fans of the NBA, should be hoping for here is some kind of public shame smoking gun that forces him out at the NBA, who wants him out, or even better with the shareholders and board at MSG.

I spent a good 20 years with casual access to the league office and can report that 100% of employees, staff, executives, interns, and anyone else who has contact with Dolan wants him out. He is universally loathed.

When you're a silver spoon child with zero talents of your own the outcome is typically you become a dbag with no redeeming qualities or you're a gentleman who knows they won life's golden ticket and you act graciously as a result. We know Dolan is a miserable guy so I'm not surprised at what you're saying.

... who makes shytty music.

[knicks94]

We all know that Dolan is a terrible human being and I will be a very happy person the day he no longer owns the Knicks. I just never understood the motive of those Knicks fans who'd jeer him at the Garden. Did they think Dolan was going to take their opinion into consideration and relinquish his ownership? And if they hated him so much why were they putting more money in his pocket by being at MSG?

[Stannis]

Lot of Dolans on the MSG Board:
https://investor.msgentertainment.com/governance/board-of-directors/default.aspx

If JD is forced to leave, who would take his place?

Would his gym rat son Quentin Dolan be our new owner?:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2856463-james-dolans-son-quentin-is-a-fitness-fiend

This could be a potentially good thing or bad thing. The guy might not care about anything other than going to the gym and making gains. Or he could be like his father and make emotional decisions. This time... on road rage.

[Stannis]

Vince McMahon getting hit with a human trafficking lawsuit as well.

[MrDollarBills]

Vince McMahon getting hit with a human trafficking lawsuit as well.

WHAT

Edit: jesus christ

Read on Twitter

?t=N78u4fnk7qzaQK7fb1yekA&s=19

I can't say I'm not surprised, if true. Vince is scum

[Stannis]

Vince McMahon getting hit with a human trafficking lawsuit as well.

WHAT

Edit: jesus christ

Read on Twitter

?t=N78u4fnk7qzaQK7fb1yekA&s=19

I can't say I'm not surprised, if true. Vince is scum

Definitely looks true. Check out the text messages:

Read on Twitter

?s=20

He's done, imho.

[Stannis]

I posted this here because it just looks more concrete than what Dolan is going through. I still looks like Dolan's case is in the early stages. But these Vince talks have been going on for a long time. And there is a lot of evidence.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ctd.157647/gov.uscourts.ctd.157647.1.0.pdf

[MrDollarBills]

Vince McMahon getting hit with a human trafficking lawsuit as well.

WHAT

Edit: jesus christ

Read on Twitter

?t=N78u4fnk7qzaQK7fb1yekA&s=19

I can't say I'm not surprised, if true. Vince is scum

Definitely looks true. Check out the text messages:

Read on Twitter

?s=20

He's done, imho.

Oh my God!! WTF

Vince and Sean Combs are literally the same person.

These dudes are all getting exposed and I'm glad, but christ. What is wrong with them and what makes them think that doing this to another human is acceptable?

And I am not shocked that Vince basically outs himself in these texts.

[Stannis]

Oh my God!! WTF

Vince and Sean Combs are literally the same person.

These dudes are all getting exposed and I'm glad, but christ. What is wrong with them and what makes them think that doing this to another human is acceptable?

And I am not shocked that Vince basically outs himself in these texts.

I'm still trying to comprehend all this. But it looks like the lawsuit is because Vince only paid 1 million instead of the 3 million that was agreed upon. Reading all those texts, I thought it had to do something with abusive behavior or something. But I guess Vince was just being cheap.

Brock Lesnar is mentioned in this lawsuit as well.

[DOT]

[Stannis]

Brock Lesnar tidbits:

https://www.postwrestling.com/2024/01/25/vince-mcmahon-accused-of-sex-trafficking-by-former-wwe-employee/

In July 2021, McMahon instructed Janel to create sexual content for a talent he was trying to re-sign and those familiar with the matter identified the individual as Brock Lesnar. McMahon told Grant that Lesnar liked what he saw and after Lesnar agreed to a new contract in August 2021, McMahon texted her to say that part of the deal was he got to have sex with her.

That December, Grant’s personal number was given to Lesnar. He asked her to send a video of herself urinating and after she did it, he called her a ‘b*tch’. Lesnar attempted to set up a meeting between them but there was a snowstorm.