Poeltic

[Thaddy]

The Raptors came out saying everyone outside BBQ is available for trade. Just after a year ago we traded for Poeltl to chase the playoffs and now we are going to blatantly develop.

Poetic or should we say Poeltic...

At the time, the Raptors seemed like a young, retooling team on the rise, having won three of four games following the arrival of Immanuel Quickley and RJ Barrett. In nearly three weeks since, Poeltl has watched them lose seven of eight contests and trade away his close friend.

“It was tough because I think he was the guy that I was closest to on this team,” said Poeltl, who came into the league with Siakam in 2016, vacationed with him during multiple all-star breaks, and became tight with him and his family over two separate stints together in Toronto.

Source: https://www.tsn.ca/nba/josh-lewenberg-jakob-poeltl-and-toronto-raptors-aligned-on-path-forward-but-for-how-long-1.2067865

[Chandan]

Now we have two 20 million salary guy we want to trade.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Where's the justice?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Now is not the time to trade Poeltl we need the presence of a legitimate NBA center in the lineup so that we can attempt to correct the disastrous course of having to hand over our 2025 selection to San Antonio.

[Thaddy]

Now is not the time to trade Poeltl we need the presence of a legitimate NBA center in the lineup so that we can attempt to correct the disastrous course of having to hand over our 2025 selection to San Antonio.

Wouldn't we be better next year just because Barnes is another year older and he would have first option experience? On top of that you're giving IQ and RJ time to gel with Barnes and the rest of the team.

The team is in turmoil. Everyone goes to bed knowing they could be traded tomorrow. If there is a time to tank its right now.

We will be better next year and it'll make it harder and cultivate a losing environment.

[DG88]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Now is not the time to trade Poeltl we need the presence of a legitimate NBA center in the lineup so that we can attempt to correct the disastrous course of having to hand over our 2025 selection to San Antonio.

We're "developing" all the players know it's gonna be a rough season but next year we can come in with a more talented roster with a top 6 pick

[Dalek]

Poeltl and Brown are both very good players and not very old and can help the team be competitive and neither has toxic contracts.

I know the instinct is to say we are open for business, but at some point you start to look at the returns people are offering and unless you get some good picks and expiring deals or potential rotational guys, it doesn't become worth moving.

Poeltl is not my favorite C in the league, but I have to admit his pick and roll defense and screen assists, passing, and high percentage finishes at the rim make him pretty helpful.

Brown is a POA defender who can make corner threes and even be a back-up PG. Those types of players are pretty rare.

In no way do I want to take on bad players (see Andrew Wiggins) just for a late first or early seconds considering what we gave up for the players.

[brownbobcat]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

I don't understand how there are STILL people on this forum who think it was a good trade. We locked down a mediocre C, yay.

[bobbyp3588]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

Really? What’s hard to understand?

The FO clearly thought we were a legit 5 away from being a playoff team.

How it turned out is how it turned out, but to say you don’t understand just calls in to question your intelligence. The reason for the trade was quite obvious.

[DG88]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

Really? What’s hard to understand?

The FO clearly thought we were a legit 5 away from being a playoff team.

How it turned out is how it turned out, but to say you don’t understand just calls in to question your intelligence. The reason for the trade was quite obvious.

Sure but that team didn't warrant selling assets for a C that didn't fit offensively. They thought the team was better than it was and they miscalculated.

[Wise80]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

Really? What’s hard to understand?

The FO clearly thought we were a legit 5 away from being a playoff team.

How it turned out is how it turned out, but to say you don’t understand just calls in to question your intelligence. The reason for the trade was quite obvious.

He, like myself and various others. Don't get how they thought that.

You had 5 nba players before the trade, turmoil behind the scenes, bottom of the standings, and then we learn the coach didn't even want to be there. With all that going on, you decide to trade a lightly protected pick so that you can gun for the play-in.

It was a horrible idea then, and now it's been confirmed. It's set us back and we did this all for 3 guys who either clearly gave up on this season from the start, or left in last years free agency.

It's not excusable. It was a horrible idea.

Over the last few months. Masai has practically admitted that he had a soft spot for these guys and that has clearly hurt the organization big time.

The handling of Siakam has been very interesting. I wonder if it comes to light. I doubt it.

[Bruin]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

It didn’t make sense at the time and it still doesn’t make sense now. Anyone with a semi functioning brain should’ve been able to see that Poeltl wasn’t gonna suddenly move the needle for us to become a legit good team

Truly baffled at how Masai approved of this deal. He must’ve been drugged or something

[refshateRaps]

The hell was the FO ever thinking?

I get they wanted to go for it with the core. Great me too. Lets Go! Oh but wait, that means also needing to also add a scoring threat if we are going to be serious. Ok its coming too right?

Nope. They really, clearly were delusional and thought we were good enough as is to jeopardize parts of the future.

To blow it all up less then a year later and when players values are down, and players and coaches have walked away for nothing shows a complete lack of focus.

What a disaster since the title.

[Potential]

We could've had a lot more assets on this team right now from a FVV trade and a better pick last draft and a guaranteed pick this year

[ciueli]

Now is not the time to trade Poeltl we need the presence of a legitimate NBA center in the lineup so that we can attempt to correct the disastrous course of having to hand over our 2025 selection to San Antonio.

Wouldn't we be better next year just because Barnes is another year older and he would have first option experience? On top of that you're giving IQ and RJ time to gel with Barnes and the rest of the team.

The team is in turmoil. Everyone goes to bed knowing they could be traded tomorrow. If there is a time to tank its right now.

We will be better next year and it'll make it harder and cultivate a losing environment.

We'll be worse next year:
- No OG.
- No Pascal.
- Playing the players we draft this year actual NBA minutes to develop them, they'll be bad the way Gradey Dick is bad right now.
- No big free agent is coming here.
- We don't have the pieces to trade for a star.
- We'll likely trade away any vets at the deadline or in the offseason that we can get anything for, Brown is almost guaranteed gone, it's only a matter of time before guys like Schroder and Poeltl start agitating for a trade as they don't want to be in a rebuilding situation.
- We don't know if Gary Trent Jr. is back or not, good chance we move on from him.
- No guarantee the team is as healthy as it was this season, very few games lost to injury, mostly just Jakob and it's only been a few weeks.

[artsncrafts]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

Really? What’s hard to understand?

The FO clearly thought we were a legit 5 away from being a playoff team.

How it turned out is how it turned out, but to say you don’t understand just calls in to question your intelligence. The reason for the trade was quite obvious.

We understand what the FO thought but we cant understand WHY the front office thought it. Every single person except Masai, Bobby and maybe you, knew the team wasnt going anywhere. This isnt a knock on purtle, the team was shambles prior to the trade. FVV was going be gone (thankfully), Nurse was on his way out, the team was bad, and so on.

[Shakril]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

I don't understand how there are STILL people on this forum who think it was a good trade. We locked down a mediocre C, yay.

because you dont understand basketball

[bobbyp3588]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

It didn’t make sense at the time and it still doesn’t make sense now. Anyone with a semi functioning brain should’ve been able to see that Poeltl wasn’t gonna suddenly move the needle for us to become a legit good team

Truly baffled at how Masai approved of this deal. He must’ve been drugged or something

It obviously hasn’t worked out the way they’d hoped.

People need to stop saying they don’t understand it. Makes them sound stupid. Agree with it or not, it was clear why they made the move.

And…not that I’m a fan of the trade cuz I’m not…it kind of did “move the needle” as we won at a .600 clip after Yak was acquired.

[refshateRaps]

Still didn't understand that trade last year.

Really? What’s hard to understand?

The FO clearly thought we were a legit 5 away from being a playoff team.

How it turned out is how it turned out, but to say you don’t understand just calls in to question your intelligence. The reason for the trade was quite obvious.

We understand what the FO thought but we cant understand WHY the front office thought it. Every single person except Masai, Bobby and maybe you, knew the team wasnt going anywhere. This isnt a knock on purtle, the team is was shambles prior to the trade. FVV was going be gone (thankfully), Nurse was on his way out, the team was bad, and so on.

Seriously. The only questionable intelligence is anyone who seriously thought we could compete with FVV and Pascal as a 1-2 punch. Moreso, I question the focus from the FO who was willing to jeopardize parts of our rebuild to support it.