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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1061 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:56 pm

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What available difference making player do you think we should/can trade for?


At guard: Brogdon or Caruso
At big: Wendell Carter Jr. or ... wait for it... Dario Saric.

Reed could be attractive to certain other teams, possibly GSW and possibly Chicago. I still believe in his development, think he's going to get better with sustained playing time at the 4, but he's almost certainly not going to be a big part of the Sixers' solution this season.

My goal with Carter or Saric would be to play them at the 4 in a two-big lineup, sliding Tobi to the 3. If Saric just can't keep up with 4s any longer after the ACL injury, then I guess I'd be open either to him or Drummond as backup C.


Brogdon/Caruso and WCJ would be huge for PHI but not sure PHI has the assets to do both.


Brogdon I’m all for and I agree hed be reasonably easy to get.
Would love Caruso but don’t think the Bulls are going to just dump him for the OKC 1st while they are “competing” for the play-in. All for it if we can swing it tho.

I don’t get the WCJ love personally. He’s a better backup C than Reed for sure, but I don’t see him as a guy you want to play with Jo for any more than 10 mins a game unless it’s vs very specific teams. In theory he’s a good guy to have on the team, but again, I don’t see Orlando just dumping him for a mediocre future 1st. Plus we’d be 2 1st’s deep into Caruso and WCJ…hard to see that happening when 1 more probably gets you an elite player in the off season.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1062 » by JRoy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:01 pm

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At guard: Brogdon or Caruso
At big: Wendell Carter Jr. or ... wait for it... Dario Saric.

Reed could be attractive to certain other teams, possibly GSW and possibly Chicago. I still believe in his development, think he's going to get better with sustained playing time at the 4, but he's almost certainly not going to be a big part of the Sixers' solution this season.

My goal with Carter or Saric would be to play them at the 4 in a two-big lineup, sliding Tobi to the 3. If Saric just can't keep up with 4s any longer after the ACL injury, then I guess I'd be open either to him or Drummond as backup C.


Brogdon/Caruso and WCJ would be huge for PHI but not sure PHI has the assets to do both.


Brogdon I’m all for and I agree hed be reasonably easy to get.
Would love Caruso but don’t think the Bulls are going to just dump him for the OKC 1st while they are “competing” for the play-in. All for it if we can swing it tho.

I don’t get the WCJ love personally. He’s a better backup C than Reed for sure, but I don’t see him as a guy you want to play with Jo for any more than 10 mins a game unless it’s vs very specific teams. In theory he’s a good guy to have on the team, but again, I don’t see Orlando just dumping him for a mediocre future 1st. Plus we’d be 2 1st’s deep into Caruso and WCJ…hard to see that happening when 1 more probably gets you an elite player in the off season.


Caruso or Brogdon would be great but WCJ might be too much.

Miles Bridges is a possibility.


Or is he a Bridges too far?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1063 » by brannigan73 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:29 pm

Caruso is another dude people love way too much. He is a slight upgrade to Melton but a worse 3 pt shooter lower percentage on less attemps. Im not saying I wouldnt want him if the price is right but if thats the only type of player we added at the deadline it barely moves the needle. One of this teams main problem is shot creation after Emiid and Maxey and sometimes Harris. (when he decides he wants to be aggressiv) Here is an unorthodox move how about DeRozan? I cant imagine he would cost much and outside of mediocre three point shooting he is still an excellent wing with size and play making ability/decent secondary ball handling. We can theoretically surround him with plenty of 3pt shooting. And I dont believe his contract goes past this season.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1064 » by Ben » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:03 pm

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At guard: Brogdon or Caruso
At big: Wendell Carter Jr. or ... wait for it... Dario Saric.

Reed could be attractive to certain other teams, possibly GSW and possibly Chicago. I still believe in his development, think he's going to get better with sustained playing time at the 4, but he's almost certainly not going to be a big part of the Sixers' solution this season.

My goal with Carter or Saric would be to play them at the 4 in a two-big lineup, sliding Tobi to the 3. If Saric just can't keep up with 4s any longer after the ACL injury, then I guess I'd be open either to him or Drummond as backup C.


Brogdon/Caruso and WCJ would be huge for PHI but not sure PHI has the assets to do both.


Brogdon I’m all for and I agree hed be reasonably easy to get.
Would love Caruso but don’t think the Bulls are going to just dump him for the OKC 1st while they are “competing” for the play-in. All for it if we can swing it tho.

I don’t get the WCJ love personally. He’s a better backup C than Reed for sure, but I don’t see him as a guy you want to play with Jo for any more than 10 mins a game unless it’s vs very specific teams. In theory he’s a good guy to have on the team, but again, I don’t see Orlando just dumping him for a mediocre future 1st. Plus we’d be 2 1st’s deep into Caruso and WCJ…hard to see that happening when 1 more probably gets you an elite player in the off season.


Fair enough re: WCJ. I liked him on the Bulls and was pissed when they traded him to Orlando. I'm not so much interested in him as a backup C as in a PF. I don't see why he couldn't play there, as he did in college and he expressed a preference for the 4 while in Chicago (ungranted, as I noted in an earlier post), and it's not as if he and Jo would occupy the same space and hence make it hard to pair them. But I would assume that any trade (which is purely hypothetical anyway-- I don't expect it to happen0 would be prefaced by people in the know evaluating WCJ's 4 capabilities.

As to whether he's available, there've been rumors. The one I just linked mentions a need for 3P shooting. Maybe a 3-way trade with Indy for Gary Trent Jr (going to Orlando along with a Sixers 1st rounder); Morris, KJ and/or Bamba, and a Sixers 2nd rounder going to Toronto; and WCJ coming to Philly.

Eh, probably not, b/c if Toronto has 3P shooters they want to trade they could just cut us out and deal directly with Orlando.
I agree that WCJ is extremely unlikely for the Sixers. I just think that the fit could be really good.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1065 » by sogood » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:25 pm

brannigan73 wrote:Caruso is another dude people love way too much. He is a slight upgrade to Melton but a worse 3 pt shooter lower percentage on less attemps. Im not saying I wouldnt want him if the price is right but if thats the only type of player we added at the deadline it barely moves the needle. One of this teams main problem is shot creation after Emiid and Maxey and sometimes Harris. (when he decides he wants to be aggressiv) Here is an unorthodox move how about DeRozan? I cant imagine he would cost much and outside of mediocre three point shooting he is still an excellent wing with size and play making ability/decent secondary ball handling. We can theoretically surround him with plenty of 3pt shooting. And I dont believe his contract goes past this season.


Caruso is shooting 41.5%

Melton is shooting 36.3%

But okay.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1066 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:45 pm

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Brogdon/Caruso and WCJ would be huge for PHI but not sure PHI has the assets to do both.


Brogdon I’m all for and I agree hed be reasonably easy to get.
Would love Caruso but don’t think the Bulls are going to just dump him for the OKC 1st while they are “competing” for the play-in. All for it if we can swing it tho.

I don’t get the WCJ love personally. He’s a better backup C than Reed for sure, but I don’t see him as a guy you want to play with Jo for any more than 10 mins a game unless it’s vs very specific teams. In theory he’s a good guy to have on the team, but again, I don’t see Orlando just dumping him for a mediocre future 1st. Plus we’d be 2 1st’s deep into Caruso and WCJ…hard to see that happening when 1 more probably gets you an elite player in the off season.


Fair enough re: WCJ. I liked him on the Bulls and was pissed when they traded him to Orlando. I'm not so much interested in him as a backup C as in a PF. I don't see why he couldn't play there, as he did in college and he expressed a preference for the 4 while in Chicago (ungranted, as I noted in an earlier post), and it's not as if he and Jo would occupy the same space and hence make it hard to pair them. But I would assume that any trade (which is purely hypothetical anyway-- I don't expect it to happen0 would be prefaced by people in the know evaluating WCJ's 4 capabilities.

As to whether he's available, there've been rumors. The one I just linked mentions a need for 3P shooting. Maybe a 3-way trade with Indy for Gary Trent Jr (going to Orlando along with a Sixers 1st rounder); Morris, KJ and/or Bamba, and a Sixers 2nd rounder going to Toronto; and WCJ coming to Philly.

Eh, probably not, b/c if Toronto has 3P shooters they want to trade they could just cut us out and deal directly with Orlando.
I agree that WCJ is extremely unlikely for the Sixers. I just think that the fit could be really good.


I just don’t see how Maxey/Melton/Tobi/WCJ/Jo works defensively. Seems like we’d get switched to death by teams with athletic wings/guards
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1067 » by MoeGreene » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:00 pm

+ 1 @PhillyFan11 - I want a quick PG like Maxey and Embiid surrounded by all 3 and D SF's. The lanky exception is, of course, Markkanen.
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Post#1068 » by Ben » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:13 pm

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Brogdon I’m all for and I agree hed be reasonably easy to get.
Would love Caruso but don’t think the Bulls are going to just dump him for the OKC 1st while they are “competing” for the play-in. All for it if we can swing it tho.

I don’t get the WCJ love personally. He’s a better backup C than Reed for sure, but I don’t see him as a guy you want to play with Jo for any more than 10 mins a game unless it’s vs very specific teams. In theory he’s a good guy to have on the team, but again, I don’t see Orlando just dumping him for a mediocre future 1st. Plus we’d be 2 1st’s deep into Caruso and WCJ…hard to see that happening when 1 more probably gets you an elite player in the off season.


Fair enough re: WCJ. I liked him on the Bulls and was pissed when they traded him to Orlando. I'm not so much interested in him as a backup C as in a PF. I don't see why he couldn't play there, as he did in college and he expressed a preference for the 4 while in Chicago (ungranted, as I noted in an earlier post), and it's not as if he and Jo would occupy the same space and hence make it hard to pair them. But I would assume that any trade (which is purely hypothetical anyway-- I don't expect it to happen0 would be prefaced by people in the know evaluating WCJ's 4 capabilities.

As to whether he's available, there've been rumors. The one I just linked mentions a need for 3P shooting. Maybe a 3-way trade with Indy for Gary Trent Jr (going to Orlando along with a Sixers 1st rounder); Morris, KJ and/or Bamba, and a Sixers 2nd rounder going to Toronto; and WCJ coming to Philly.

Eh, probably not, b/c if Toronto has 3P shooters they want to trade they could just cut us out and deal directly with Orlando.
I agree that WCJ is extremely unlikely for the Sixers. I just think that the fit could be really good.


I just don’t see how Maxey/Melton/Tobi/WCJ/Jo works defensively. Seems like we’d get switched to death by teams with athletic wings/guards


To be fair, the first guys I mentioned were Brogdon/ Caruso, with WCJ being on my wish list.

Also, in my dream scenario we wouldn't be limited to those five players. It's not as if I proposed gutting the team's useful players-- I was trying to rely mostly on our draft capital and forget about future trades b/c I don't think that we're going to get some giant star either through free agency or a S&T.
But one of the nice (and somewhat under-appreciated) things about WCJ is that he's a good perimeter defender.

At any rate, what really good, athletic wings do you see available who can defend against that hypothetical team you posed but also score/ spread the floor? Believe me, I want reasons to hope!
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1069 » by PhillyFan11 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 am

Never going to happen…but a 4 team trade that gives us 3 young, cheap players to develop into the rotation going forward while also getting under the tax.


Sixers out: Reed, Springer, ‘26 OKC 1st, Korkmaz, KJ Martin, ‘24 2nd, ‘28 2nd, and ‘29 2nd
Sixers in: Corey Kispert, Quentin Grimes, and Nick Richards


Knicks out: Grimes, Fournier, ‘24 & ‘25 2nd
Knicks in: Tyus Jones and Paul Reed
Knicks need a backup PG after trading Quickley and Reed provides depth at C for them. I don’t think BBall Paul vetos a trade to the big apple either

Wizards out: Tyus Jones and Kispert
Wizards in: Springer, Fournier, ‘26 OKC 1st, and ‘24 & ‘25 2nd via NYK
Springer, ‘26 1st and a ‘24 2nd is a good haul for Kispert who doesn’t really fit into future plans. Jones and Fournier is a wash for the Wiz and happy to get ‘25 2nd for the trouble.

Hornets out: Nick Richards
Hornets in: Korkmaz, KJ Martin, ‘24 2nd, ‘28 2nd, and ‘29 2nd via Philly
A look at Martin and 3 2nd’s is good value for a backup C.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1070 » by 76ciology » Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:15 am

brannigan73 wrote:Caruso is another dude people love way too much. He is a slight upgrade to Melton but a worse 3 pt shooter lower percentage on less attemps. Im not saying I wouldnt want him if the price is right but if thats the only type of player we added at the deadline it barely moves the needle. One of this teams main problem is shot creation after Emiid and Maxey and sometimes Harris. (when he decides he wants to be aggressiv)


If you look at the numbers, he’s closest to derrick white (Isaac is another guy). He compliments both Tobias and Maxey.

I like Caruso as the 5th guy.

Maxey
Caruso
Tobias
Jerami Grant?
Embiid

Bench:
Melton
Oubre
Batum
Reed

Thats a team that could compete with the Celts.
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Post#1071 » by brannigan73 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:09 pm

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brannigan73 wrote:Caruso is another dude people love way too much. He is a slight upgrade to Melton but a worse 3 pt shooter lower percentage on less attemps. Im not saying I wouldnt want him if the price is right but if thats the only type of player we added at the deadline it barely moves the needle. One of this teams main problem is shot creation after Emiid and Maxey and sometimes Harris. (when he decides he wants to be aggressiv)


If you look at the numbers, he’s closest to derrick white (Isaac is another guy). He compliments both Tobias and Maxey.

I like Caruso as the 5th guy.

Maxey
Caruso
Tobias
Jerami Grant?
Embiid

Bench:
Melton
Oubre
Batum
Reed

Thats a team that could compete with the Celts.




Yes, I like that. And thats a route they could go. But only thing I worry about is the Grant and Tobias fit. Its not that I dont like Caruso I just think he is a little ove-rated. I just dont like when people act like lets trade for Caruso and wh=ere gold! Im over-simplyfying and I know Im more negative then a lot of fans, 35 years of watching this team will do this, but they need more then a good defensive guard of average offensive skill set. Depth isn't so important come playoff time I look at the Celtics starting lineup and I know we would have the best player in Embiidand Maxey is probably on par with Jaylen Brown but after that my eyes bleed. Holiday is a great player and Porzingis is finally in the perfect low pressure spot. Derrick White is also playing the best basketball of his career. I think they are the best starting 5 since Durant on the Warriors.
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Post#1072 » by JRoy » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:29 pm

What does the Grant deal look like?
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Post#1073 » by zaz102 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:54 pm

JRoy wrote:What does the Grant deal look like?
I would imagine he's worth an expiring and a mid-late 1st
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Post#1074 » by JRoy » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:56 pm

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JRoy wrote:What does the Grant deal look like?
I would imagine he's worth an expiring and a mid-late 1st


That is probably Brogdons value. POR would want more than that for Grant. I’m not a fan but the FO loves him.
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Post#1075 » by zaz102 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:59 pm

JRoy wrote:
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JRoy wrote:What does the Grant deal look like?
I would imagine he's worth an expiring and a mid-late 1st


That is probably Brogdons value. POR would want more than that for Grant. I’m not a fan but the FO loves him.
Fair enough. My prediction is that there is a good chance neither are traded by the deadline if they aren't willing to come down.
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Post#1076 » by JRoy » Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:00 pm

zaz102 wrote:
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zaz102 wrote:I would imagine he's worth an expiring and a mid-late 1st


That is probably Brogdons value. POR would want more than that for Grant. I’m not a fan but the FO loves him.
Fair enough. My prediction is that there is a good chance neither are traded by the deadline if they aren't willing to come down.


I don’t think there is any chance is traded this year. I expect Brogdon to get hurt and not get moved until after the season.
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Post#1077 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:23 pm

Covington, Springer, Korkmaz, House, ‘26 OKC 1st, and 3 2nd’s

For Bogdanovic and Bey

Does Atlanta say no to that? 21M in exprings, a future 1st and 3 2nd’s + Springer seems like what they are looking for. Just don’t know if Springer and/or the OKC 1st hold enough value where another team couldn’t beat it.

Maxey/Pat Bev (Lowry?)
Bogdanovic/Melton
Bey/Oubre/Morris
Tobi/Batum/Morris
Embiid/Reed
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Post#1078 » by zaz102 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:55 pm

I feel like the best basketball-based moves the team could realistically make would be-
1st+swap+Morris for Murray (based on LAL Shams rumor)

Covington+1st? for Miles Bridges (based on nothing). Obviously, a high chance that none of the parties could be interested for good reasons, but seems possible.

Pretty solid PO rotation.

Maxey & Murray / Melton
Harris & Bridges / Batum, Oubre
Embiid / Reed

This might not be the move, but unless they make a home run move, I feel like they should look to move Morris, Cov, Furk, and House for a guard and forward that will help in the POs and could be moved in the future if needed.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1079 » by Foshan » Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:36 pm

I agree that the all in move is for a guard and forward, using our picks to get long term guys but also getting under the tax so we can resign Toby going forward.
Murray/Brogdan/caruso and Bridges/Grant/Markennen
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Post#1080 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:03 pm

zaz102 wrote:I feel like the best basketball-based moves the team could realistically make would be-
1st+swap+Morris for Murray (based on LAL Shams rumor)

Covington+1st? for Miles Bridges (based on nothing). Obviously, a high chance that none of the parties could be interested for good reasons, but seems possible.

Pretty solid PO rotation.

Maxey & Murray / Melton
Harris & Bridges / Batum, Oubre
Embiid / Reed

This might not be the move, but unless they make a home run move, I feel like they should look to move Morris, Cov, Furk, and House for a guard and forward that will help in the POs and could be moved in the future if needed.


Bridges has recently said that he wants to stay with the Hornets and has veto power with any trade…he also loses his bird rights if traded. It’s entirely possible he chooses to stay in Charolette because he wants to be there…and because they will most likely be able to offer him the biggest contract.
But we’ll see…no doubt he’d be a great fit here in between Maxey and Jo.

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