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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1101 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:58 pm

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tleikheen wrote:
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(I'll never understand the obsession with Kuzma... To me he's just Wood 2.0 and some would trade Mavs best trade assests for him. How would a low % shooter, poor defender and poor rebounder solve this team problems??? He's a twitter troll, nothing more.


Mavs need a coaching change before they do any trade. Then they need someone who could actually come up with different offensive and defensive schemes that players are going to be willing to follow.}

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Only one person pushing the Kuzma rock up that hill


I dont think you follow the Mavs too much ,you're trying to compare a 7 ppg (Wood ) to a player (Kuzma) who has avged 21 ppg for the last 2 yrs ,how clueless .
Another reason I dont think you know anything about the Mavs ,I'm just a fan and I dont put out the news the Mavs are interested in Kyle Kuzma because they're looking for a player 6'8" or bigger who can get their own baskets.It's no secret the Mavs have interest In Kuz so lying saying I'm the only one pushing a rock up the hill is just clueless.


Me and Daoneandonly don't follow Mavs?? Yet you want to trade all primary assests for Kuzma? Are you actually being serious or you just having a laugh?


The funny thing is that Wood averaged 20+10 for 3 years when Mavs traded for him :lol: :lol: :lol:

How cluelessssssssssssss :noway: :noway: :noway:
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1102 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:25 pm

Archx wrote:
tleikheen wrote:
Archx wrote:
(I'll never understand the obsession with Kuzma... To me he's just Wood 2.0 and some would trade Mavs best trade assests for him. How would a low % shooter, poor defender and poor rebounder solve this team problems??? He's a twitter troll, nothing more.


Mavs need a coaching change before they do any trade. Then they need someone who could actually come up with different offensive and defensive schemes that players are going to be willing to follow.}

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Only one person pushing the Kuzma rock up that hill


I dont think you follow the Mavs too much ,you're trying to compare a 7 ppg (Wood ) to a player (Kuzma) who has avged 21 ppg for the last 2 yrs ,how clueless .
Another reason I dont think you know anything about the Mavs ,I'm just a fan and I dont put out the news the Mavs are interested in Kyle Kuzma because they're looking for a player 6'8" or bigger who can get their own baskets.It's no secret the Mavs have interest In Kuz so lying saying I'm the only one pushing a rock up the hill is just clueless.


Me and Daoneandonly don't follow Mavs?? Yet you want to trade all primary assests for Kuzma? Are you actually being serious or you just having a laugh?


Ha yea seriously, doesnt make any sense

And sadly I watch more Wizards than Mavs due to where I live, so I'm very familiar with Kuz. Me first, empty stats, zero impact on winning.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1103 » by joesha1698 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:19 pm

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I dont think you follow the Mavs too much ,you're trying to compare a 7 ppg (Wood ) to a player (Kuzma) who has avged 21 ppg for the last 2 yrs ,how clueless .
Another reason I dont think you know anything about the Mavs ,I'm just a fan and I dont put out the news the Mavs are interested in Kyle Kuzma because they're looking for a player 6'8" or bigger who can get their own baskets.It's no secret the Mavs have interest In Kuz so lying saying I'm the only one pushing a rock up the hill is just clueless.


Me and Daoneandonly don't follow Mavs?? Yet you want to trade all primary assests for Kuzma? Are you actually being serious or you just having a laugh?


Ha yea seriously, doesnt make any sense

And sadly I watch more Wizards than Mavs due to where I live, so I'm very familiar with Kuz. Me first, empty stats, zero impact on winning.



I watched Kuzma for years with the Lakers and he wasn't just a "me first" guy. It's hard not to be me first on a team that is losing every game and Jordan Poole. At the end of the day, it comes down to his skillset. He has all the skills you would want from a modern 4. He has won a championship with the Lakers - so he proved he can contribute to a winning team. He also is still relatively young and can be further molded. I wouldn't judge him solely on his time on the Wizards. Also with our injury history, we can use another guy that can put the ball on the floor and rebound and score in a multitude of ways.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1104 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:29 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
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Me and Daoneandonly don't follow Mavs?? Yet you want to trade all primary assests for Kuzma? Are you actually being serious or you just having a laugh?


Ha yea seriously, doesnt make any sense

And sadly I watch more Wizards than Mavs due to where I live, so I'm very familiar with Kuz. Me first, empty stats, zero impact on winning.



I watched Kuzma for years with the Lakers and he wasn't just a "me first" guy. It's hard not to be me first on a team that is losing every game and Jordan Poole. At the end of the day, it comes down to his skillset. He has all the skills you would want from a modern 4. He has won a championship with the Lakers - so he proved he can contribute to a winning team. He also is still relatively young and can be further molded. I wouldn't judge him solely on his time on the Wizards. Also with our injury history, we can use another guy that can put the ball on the floor and rebound and score in a multitude of ways.


I know most basketball players are arrogant and cocky, but he's on another lvl given he doesnt back it up. There's been multiple games ive seen this year where he was a huge reason they lost due to his tunnel vision and trying to play hero ball. Without a Lebron to keep him in check, which we dont have, I dont like it.

Now if we didnt give up any picks and it was just matching salary, maybe. But nah, he's not worth one FRP given our dearth of assets
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1105 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:43 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Ha yea seriously, doesnt make any sense

And sadly I watch more Wizards than Mavs due to where I live, so I'm very familiar with Kuz. Me first, empty stats, zero impact on winning.



I watched Kuzma for years with the Lakers and he wasn't just a "me first" guy. It's hard not to be me first on a team that is losing every game and Jordan Poole. At the end of the day, it comes down to his skillset. He has all the skills you would want from a modern 4. He has won a championship with the Lakers - so he proved he can contribute to a winning team. He also is still relatively young and can be further molded. I wouldn't judge him solely on his time on the Wizards. Also with our injury history, we can use another guy that can put the ball on the floor and rebound and score in a multitude of ways.


I know most basketball players are arrogant and cocky, but he's on another lvl given he doesnt back it up. There's been multiple games ive seen this year where he was a huge reason they lost due to his tunnel vision and trying to play hero ball. Without a Lebron to keep him in check, which we dont have, I dont like it.

Now if we didnt give up any picks and it was just matching salary, maybe. But nah, he's not worth one FRP given our dearth of assets


Agree.

He has a good skillset but it's too risky for us... We don't have a true leader and a true coach.
There are a good chances that he will become another Rondo, Odom or even Wood.

Happy to be wrong of course.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1106 » by Archx » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:17 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Archx wrote:
Me and Daoneandonly don't follow Mavs?? Yet you want to trade all primary assests for Kuzma? Are you actually being serious or you just having a laugh?


Ha yea seriously, doesnt make any sense

And sadly I watch more Wizards than Mavs due to where I live, so I'm very familiar with Kuz. Me first, empty stats, zero impact on winning.


He has won a championship with the Lakers - so he proved he can contribute to a winning team..



He barely contributed anything in that series. Averaging 10pts and 3 rebs on 53% TS and 43% shooting from the field. He had a -10 On/Off and -3.6 BPM :o

If anything, he was a huge negative when he was on the floor lol...
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1107 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:26 pm

I still think Bridges for Green(second rounders) or Bridges,Nick Smith jr. for Green and Hardy is worth a shot...he would be a perfect 3rd Player on O, he's good on D...Suns are interested,they can only offer second rounders...CHA wants a first but with all the trouble surrounding him you could probably get him for Green.... obviously what he did was terrible , he knows that,he lost money because of that, he knows he can't make another dumb decision...make sure he's learned his lesson and get him before the Suns do....otherwise you're gonna be their b...h for the next couple of seasons
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Post#1108 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:36 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:I still think Bridges for Green(second rounders) or Bridges,Nick Smith jr. for Green and Hardy is worth a shot...he would be a perfect 3rd Player on O, he's good on D...Suns are interested,they can only offer second rounders...CHA wants a first but with all the trouble surrounding him you could probably get him for Green.... obviously what he did was terrible , he knows that,he lost money because of that, he knows he can't make another dumb decision...make sure he's learned his lesson and get him before the Suns do....otherwise you're gonna be their b...h for the next couple of seasons


Agreed. Mavs can only afford buy-low candidates and a bet on the culture here inciting a change. Assuming Bridges can toethe line, hes a damn good player... Nico is a below average GM though, so dont be surprised when we do nothing.
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Post#1109 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:41 pm

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BliscoSantos wrote:I still think Bridges for Green(second rounders) or Bridges,Nick Smith jr. for Green and Hardy is worth a shot...he would be a perfect 3rd Player on O, he's good on D...Suns are interested,they can only offer second rounders...CHA wants a first but with all the trouble surrounding him you could probably get him for Green.... obviously what he did was terrible , he knows that,he lost money because of that, he knows he can't make another dumb decision...make sure he's learned his lesson and get him before the Suns do....otherwise you're gonna be their b...h for the next couple of seasons


Agreed. Mavs can only afford buy-low candidates and a bet on the culture here inciting a change. Assuming Bridges can toethe line, hes a damn good player... Nico is a below average GM though, so dont be surprised when we do nothing.


I'm agree with you but it's not so easy, Bridges will lose his Bird rights after the trade and we don't have cap space to resign him probably... Unless we unload someone... Like Maxi, Holmes etc etc

Btw that Powell resign is everyday more awful :lol:
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1110 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:42 pm

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BliscoSantos wrote:I still think Bridges for Green(second rounders) or Bridges,Nick Smith jr. for Green and Hardy is worth a shot...he would be a perfect 3rd Player on O, he's good on D...Suns are interested,they can only offer second rounders...CHA wants a first but with all the trouble surrounding him you could probably get him for Green.... obviously what he did was terrible , he knows that,he lost money because of that, he knows he can't make another dumb decision...make sure he's learned his lesson and get him before the Suns do....otherwise you're gonna be their b...h for the next couple of seasons


Agreed. Mavs can only afford buy-low candidates and a bet on the culture here inciting a change. Assuming Bridges can toethe line, hes a damn good player... Nico is a below average GM though, so dont be surprised when we do nothing.


I'm agree with you but it's not so easy, Bridges will lose his Bird rights after the trade and we don't have cap space to resign him probably... Unless we unload someone... Like Maxi, Holmes etc etc

Btw that Powell resign is everyday more awful :lol:


Even without his bird rights, its a worthwhile gamble. Mavs get a defensive wing, and Bridges gets to rebuild his reputation entering free agency as a starter for a playoff team.

I wouldnt trade a 1st for him, but I would jump at the chance to trade them Green or Williams for Bridges. As far as re-signing him, I think it would be relatively easy. Mavs have plenty of paths to clear cap space this summer once THJ and Holmes become expirings.

Powell is bad, but its like the 8th worst contract on this team so its not even worth getting mad about anymore.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1111 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:02 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:I still think Bridges for Green(second rounders) or Bridges,Nick Smith jr. for Green and Hardy is worth a shot...he would be a perfect 3rd Player on O, he's good on D...Suns are interested,they can only offer second rounders...CHA wants a first but with all the trouble surrounding him you could probably get him for Green.... obviously what he did was terrible , he knows that,he lost money because of that, he knows he can't make another dumb decision...make sure he's learned his lesson and get him before the Suns do....otherwise you're gonna be their b...h for the next couple of seasons


Agreed. Mavs can only afford buy-low candidates and a bet on the culture here inciting a change. Assuming Bridges can toethe line, hes a damn good player... Nico is a below average GM though, so dont be surprised when we do nothing.


I'm agree with you but it's not so easy, Bridges will lose his Bird rights after the trade and we don't have cap space to resign him probably... Unless we unload someone... Like Maxi, Holmes etc etc

Btw that Powell resign is everyday more awful :lol:


Agree...as much as we bitch about THJ(17mio) he's a 6th Man candidate and the third most important/capable Player on O..Powell's only making 4mio..the problem is:
-Kleber 11mio and missing games non-stop
-Holmes 12mio and cooked
-Grant 12 mio,too small for a PF,not quick and athletic enough for a SF
That's 35mio of dead money invested in Players that give you Little to nothing
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1112 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:33 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
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Agreed. Mavs can only afford buy-low candidates and a bet on the culture here inciting a change. Assuming Bridges can toethe line, hes a damn good player... Nico is a below average GM though, so dont be surprised when we do nothing.


I'm agree with you but it's not so easy, Bridges will lose his Bird rights after the trade and we don't have cap space to resign him probably... Unless we unload someone... Like Maxi, Holmes etc etc

Btw that Powell resign is everyday more awful :lol:


Even without his bird rights, its a worthwhile gamble. Mavs get a defensive wing, and Bridges gets to rebuild his reputation entering free agency as a starter for a playoff team.

I wouldnt trade a 1st for him, but I would jump at the chance to trade them Green or Williams for Bridges. As far as re-signing him, I think it would be relatively easy. Mavs have plenty of paths to clear cap space this summer once THJ and Holmes become expirings.

Powell is bad, but its like the 8th worst contract on this team so its not even worth getting mad about anymore.


Bridges isn't a defensive wing... But yes he is very good, if we can resign him i would like trade even a FRP for sure.

4mo are not so much but we talking about dead money for 3 years.
Maxi another example.
Curry 4mo useless.
McGee stretched after give him a bad contract.
Trading for Holmes and don't play him was a bad move and dead money.

Thinking those small contracts will not be a problem in the future is totally wrong because they limit our future moves.

If you add those bad contracts you have a 30+M cap space for Bridges or another good player.

Probably you don't realize how much these moves cripple us... In salary cap system every contract is important guys.
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Post#1113 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:34 pm

Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.
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Post#1114 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:36 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.


We won a ring with a guy like him... And now, unfortunately, he is our coach.
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Post#1115 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:39 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.


We won a ring with a guy like him... And now, unfortunately, he is our coach.

Not excusing Kidd, but what Bridged did is way worse.
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Post#1116 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:42 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.


Listen, we all know what he did,he was punished,he still is paying the price and Will untill he proces he changed,that it was just a dumbass nove on his side...but acting like he's not good,c'mon now...he'd be the third Best Player on the Mavs(most teams,some even second Best) by a mile...Kidd got a second chance,why shouldn't he...and believe ne,everybody,the league, the probation are keeping an eye on him to behave
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Post#1117 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:47 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.


Listen, we all know what he did,he was punished,he still is paying the price and Will untill he proces he changed,that it was just a dumbass nove on his side...but acting like he's not good,c'mon now...he'd be the third Best Player on the Mavs(most teams,some even second Best) by a mile...Kidd got a second chance,why shouldn't he...and believe ne,everybody,the league, the probation are keeping an eye on him to behave

He smashed his wife car windsheild with her kid in it long AFTER the famous assault.
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Post#1118 » by BliscoSantos » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:53 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:Forget about Bridges, he's a scumbag, and he's not that good.


Listen, we all know what he did,he was punished,he still is paying the price and Will untill he proces he changed,that it was just a dumbass nove on his side...but acting like he's not good,c'mon now...he'd be the third Best Player on the Mavs(most teams,some even second Best) by a mile...Kidd got a second chance,why shouldn't he...and believe ne,everybody,the league, the probation are keeping an eye on him to behave

He smashed his wife car windsheild with her kid in it long AFTER the famous assault.


So they say and like I said Mavs have to do their diligence before a trade,talk to him,People around him...i'm not defending him but it is weird that the ex-wife reported the incident 4 days after it happened
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Post#1119 » by Teffer10 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:10 am

Can't believe anyone is even entertaining the idea of trading for Bridges.
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Post#1120 » by dirkules_41 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:12 pm

Teffer10 wrote:Can't believe anyone is even entertaining the idea of trading for Bridges.

I guess people are desperate for success and have good legal teams lol

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