Scoot Henderson

[Colbinii]

Any surprises here? I was told to not consider defense when evaluating Scoot and that outside of Wemby none of the prospects had differentiated themselves defensively.

Lively 91% in Def EPM
Anthony Black 89% in Def EPM
Ausar 80% in Def EPM
Amen 75% in Def EPM
Cason 74% in Def EPM
Bilal 49% in Def EPM
Jarace 44% in Def EPM
Miller 36% in Def EPM
Whitmore 35% in Def EPM
Hendricks 27% in Def EPM
Grady Dick 10% in Def EPM
Keyonte 4% in Def EPM
Scoot 2% in Def EPM
Hawkins 2% in Def EPM

Jett - N/A

Who told you that? I had Black, Ausar/Amen and Cason as impact defenders from Day 1.

Surprised Lively, given his age, has been so effective defensively and on the glass. Kessler and Him are two of the best young defensive prospects outside of Chet/Wemby.

[Big J]

Any surprises here? I was told to not consider defense when evaluating Scoot and that outside of Wemby none of the prospects had differentiated themselves defensively.

Lively 91% in Def EPM
Anthony Black 89% in Def EPM
Ausar 80% in Def EPM
Amen 75% in Def EPM
Cason 74% in Def EPM
Bilal 49% in Def EPM
Jarace 44% in Def EPM
Miller 36% in Def EPM
Whitmore 35% in Def EPM
Hendricks 27% in Def EPM
Grady Dick 10% in Def EPM
Keyonte 4% in Def EPM
Scoot 2% in Def EPM
Hawkins 2% in Def EPM

Jett - N/A

Ah yea, I remember that. Only people who are lazy don't consider defense when evaluating guys. They just figured he'd be good because he "looked athletic" lol.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Literally every prospect from 4 to 12 other than Jett Howard was mostly hyped up for their defense, I'm actually baffled here.

Who in the last draft was thinking "wow, Ausar Thompson and Jarace Walker and Anthony Black and Taylor Hendricks and Dereck Lively are good at offense"

Dereck Lively averaged 5 PPG in college.

[Colbinii]

Literally every prospect from 4 to 12 other than Jett Howard was mostly hyped up for their defense, I'm actually baffled here.

Who in the last draft was thinking "wow, Ausar Thompson and Jarace Walker and Anthony Black and Taylor Hendricks and Dereck Lively are good at offense"

Dereck Lively averaged 5 PPG in college.

I assume he is just taking shots at Clyde from this interaction in March 2023.

This forum would be better if everyone just ignored JMAC3. Completely useless poster.

i don't think any of these guys differentiated themselves defensively other than Wemby.

So you just don't consider defense at all when ranking them?

i said, other than Wemby, none of them have differentiated themselves defensively. what is it that you didn't understand about that?

[HadAnEffectHere]

I will say that while Brandon Miller is definitely not having a Scoot bad season, his stats are pretty terrible too (like a lot of rookies).

-4.4 BPM
-0.6 VORP
-0.1 WS
91 TS+

The major and super concerning red flag is:

.162 FTr

With his really low rebounding rate not being great either considering how bad the Hornets are at rebounding.

He's had two good games in a row, but we'll see if his stats improve in the second half of the year because this wasn't a super inspiring start or anything.

[Big J]

I will say that while Brandon Miller is definitely not having a Scoot bad season, his stats are pretty terrible too (like a lot of rookies).

-4.4 BPM
-0.6 VORP
-0.1 WS
91 TS+

The major and super concerning red flag is:

.162 FTr

With his really low rebounding rate not being great either considering how bad the Hornets are at rebounding.

He's had two good games in a row, but we'll see if his stats improve in the second half of the year because this wasn't a super inspiring start or anything.

Yea, but the difference is that Miller actually has a prototypical NBA frame. He looks like an NBA rookie where you know he's going to fill out and become a monster in a couple of years. Scoot is already completely filled out, so he has nowhere to go physically.

[JMAC3]

Literally every prospect from 4 to 12 other than Jett Howard was mostly hyped up for their defense, I'm actually baffled here.

Who in the last draft was thinking "wow, Ausar Thompson and Jarace Walker and Anthony Black and Taylor Hendricks and Dereck Lively are good at offense"

Dereck Lively averaged 5 PPG in college.

I assume he is just taking shots at Clyde from this interaction in March 2023.

This forum would be better if everyone just ignored JMAC3. Completely useless poster.

So you just don't consider defense at all when ranking them?

i said, other than Wemby, none of them have differentiated themselves defensively. what is it that you didn't understand about that?

LOL I know can't believe I disagree with you on things... I am the worst. Thanks for the middle school level post. On a post that I actually shared data backing up my thoughts.

[JMAC3]

I will say that while Brandon Miller is definitely not having a Scoot bad season, his stats are pretty terrible too (like a lot of rookies).

-4.4 BPM
-0.6 VORP
-0.1 WS
91 TS+

The major and super concerning red flag is:

.162 FTr

With his really low rebounding rate not being great either considering how bad the Hornets are at rebounding.

He's had two good games in a row, but we'll see if his stats improve in the second half of the year because this wasn't a super inspiring start or anything.

I agree he has some things to work on, adv numbers don't love him but his shooting is for real. 3rd good game in a row tonight with 27 pts in 29 mins on 11/13 from field.

Charlotte is a such a mess this year, him rising above most of that is nice to see.

[Big J]

Where are the Scoot fans at? He had a good game.

[Colbinii]

Where are the Scoot fans at? He had a good game.

They aren't psycho's or in a cult.

It's like after Biden "allegedly" won the 2020 Presidential Election and all the Trumpers are like "I don't see all the Biden Fans! Where are they? I don't see the Joe Biden flags on boats and houses and cars!"

[Big J]

Where are the Scoot fans at? He had a good game.

They aren't psycho's or in a cult.

It's like after Biden "allegedly" won the 2020 Presidential Election and all the Trumpers are like "I don't see all the Biden Fans! Where are they? I don't see the Joe Biden flags on boats and houses and cars!"

Ah, well they should be living it up. This is their chance to beat their chests.

[Big J]

Miller 8-17, 5-10, 7 & 4. Scoot sucking ass again. Just gonna keep doing this until dudes admit they were wrong and pay the piper. You know who you are.

[HadAnEffectHere]

1. I do not believe Scoot will become a valuable player unless he becomes a great shooter (like basically all perimeter players in the NBA)

2. Bragging about Brandon Miller's stats in a loss to the Pistons is very disturbed behavior.

[mattao313]

1. I do not believe Scoot will become a valuable player unless he becomes a great shooter (like basically all perimeter players in the NBA)

2. Bragging about Brandon Miller's stats in a loss to the Pistons is very disturbed behavior.

Meh watching Miller you can clearly see the talent and he's a legit shooter if I were the Hornets I'd be happy with that pick. The skillet is there just needs to refine it and fix the little things. The advanced stats don't matter at all at this stage.

Scoot has a good handle but just can't shoot and really is below the rim. I thought he'd be more john wall speedy but more ground bound but he just doesn't have that elite speed or enough vertical pop. I can still see him being successful in the league, but as you said he really needs to make a significant improvement shooting to open up driving lanes.

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[disoblige]

That one game scoot had against wemby was fools gold. GJ Michael Jordan for picking Miller.

[JMAC3]

He is just so dependent on volume at this point. He has to shoot 20+ times to score 20+ points, he hasn't done it.

His game earlier this week vs Thunder, he shot 18 times in 25 mins. And it wasn't like he was hitting, he shot 39% from the field and took more shots than Grant (10) Simons (14) and Brogdon (12) despite them all playing more mins.

Some of that is sorting through when to be aggressive and when to facilitate but just think it would be nice for him to show some of mix of efficiency and production in SOME GAMES that Miller, Chet, Wemby and Ausar have flashed.

He is actually shooting better than expected from three, but his feel for the game and defense are trending down.

[HadAnEffectHere]

If this is the weird, disturbed thread where we post individual terrible performances, Ausar Thompson was a -18 in 17 minutes against the Wizards in a blowout loss.

One of the smartest and most athletic players in the NBA and he provides no value at all because basketball requires an extremely high line baseline for shooting and he's the worst shooter in NBA history relative to his position and era.

[Big J]

If this is the weird, disturbed thread where we post individual terrible performances, Ausar Thompson was a -18 in 17 minutes against the Wizards in a blowout loss.

One of the smartest and most athletic players in the NBA and he provides no value at all because basketball requires an extremely high line baseline for shooting and he's the worst shooter in NBA history relative to his position and era.

-18 in a single game sample on that trash pistons team is a joke. Dude is an absolute lock down defender with solid playmaking chops and elite athleticism. He shot 4-6 in that game. Scoot would kill for that kind of efficiency.

[HadAnEffectHere]

If this is the weird, disturbed thread where we post individual terrible performances, Ausar Thompson was a -18 in 17 minutes against the Wizards in a blowout loss.

One of the smartest and most athletic players in the NBA and he provides no value at all because basketball requires an extremely high line baseline for shooting and he's the worst shooter in NBA history relative to his position and era.

-18 in a single game sample on that trash pistons team is a joke. Dude is an absolute lock down defender with solid playmaking chops and elite athleticism. He shot 4-6 in that game. Scoot would kill for that kind of efficiency.

I mean, the Pistons are trash... In large part due to him, lol.

He destroys all spacing and he, Hayes, and Duren ruin their offense every time.

Unless you have Ja or Westbrook tier athleticism+handles or Giannis like size, you provide negative value in the NBA if you're a perimeter player who is bad at shooting.

[Big J]

If this is the weird, disturbed thread where we post individual terrible performances, Ausar Thompson was a -18 in 17 minutes against the Wizards in a blowout loss.

One of the smartest and most athletic players in the NBA and he provides no value at all because basketball requires an extremely high line baseline for shooting and he's the worst shooter in NBA history relative to his position and era.

-18 in a single game sample on that trash pistons team is a joke. Dude is an absolute lock down defender with solid playmaking chops and elite athleticism. He shot 4-6 in that game. Scoot would kill for that kind of efficiency.

I mean, the Pistons are trash... In large part due to him, lol.

He destroys all spacing and he, Hayes, and Duren ruin their offense every time.

Unless you have Ja or Westbrook tier athleticism+handles or Giannis like size, you provide negative value in the NBA if you're a perimeter player who is bad at shooting.

He literally does have Ja/Westbrook level athleticism. He just doesn't have a coach who knows what he's doing. He needs to have the ball in his hands more. His talents are wasted as an off ball player.