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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1781 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:02 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:Given the length of the suspension, I'd be surprised if this was TT's offense. They might as well sign Pete Nance to another 10 day. He really can't be worse than Damien.


You've been hating on Jones for a long time, now, but personally I'd still like to see more of him.

The good news is whether it's Jones, Nance, IMobley, or even Wade/Niang they can all do something TT can't do ... which is knock down 3's.

So, maybe we'll get a look at a 5 out lineup before JBB is forced to try it out of desperation in the playoffs?


I don't have Jones as an NBA player. I'm not sure about Nance, and I'm skeptical about Brobley, but I'm sure about Jones.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1782 » by JonFromVA » Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:07 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:Given the length of the suspension, I'd be surprised if this was TT's offense. They might as well sign Pete Nance to another 10 day. He really can't be worse than Damien.


You've been hating on Jones for a long time, now, but personally I'd still like to see more of him.

The good news is whether it's Jones, Nance, IMobley, or even Wade/Niang they can all do something TT can't do ... which is knock down 3's.

So, maybe we'll get a look at a 5 out lineup before JBB is forced to try it out of desperation in the playoffs?


I don't have Jones as an NBA player. I'm not sure about Nance, and I'm skeptical about Brobley, but I'm sure about Jones.


I just ask to see it with my own eyes. Not just garbage time, not just a short stint where he made some mistakes and wasn't seen from again for weeks.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1783 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:31 pm

JonFromVA wrote:So, maybe we'll get a look at a 5-out lineup before JBB is forced to try it out of desperation in the playoffs?

The worst part is even Jb's staunchest supporters know that's ultimately what this season will come down to.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1784 » by JonFromVA » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:02 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:So, maybe we'll get a look at a 5-out lineup before JBB is forced to try it out of desperation in the playoffs?

The worst part is even Jb's staunchest supporters know that's ultimately what this season will come down to.


I don't pretend to know what the season will ultimately come down to and I sure can't predict when someone is going to change their way of thinking.

I also don't gamble, so I have no vested interest in these outcomes beyond my fandom.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1785 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:26 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Given who our PoBo is, i assume TT's spot is safe on the roster but of it were me, i would trade him. A young team like this doesn't need that kind of distraction in the final 15 games of the season before a pivotal playoff apperance.


How much of a distraction do you expect it to be?

A number of role players have been caught, done their suspension, and quietly returned.

My concern would be whether he can still contribute anything without the assistance of banned drugs.
I'm pretty sure Noel, Dedmon, Birch, Favors, Blake, JaMychal Green, Tony Bradley, or Skal Labissière could fill TT's 12 MPG in the regular season for the same or cheaper price tag.

Plus another guy can do it without the PEDs or reality TV drama.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1786 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:31 pm

A guy on the GB did say after TT serves 5 games we can put him on the suspended list and gain a roster spot but since money is still tight, not sure the Cavs will utilize that provision since they already have 2 vacant roster spots (doubt Nance is a long term roster guy, at least this season).
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1787 » by toooskies » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:38 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:A guy on the GB did say after TT serves 5 games we can put him on the suspended list and gain a roster spot but since money is still tight, not sure the Cavs will utilize that provision since they already have 2 vacant roster spots (doubt Nance is a long term roster guy, at least this season).

I think Nance would be the most likely option to take a two-way spot this year, but we're definitely waiting till the trade deadline for that kind of roster move.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1788 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:32 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:A guy on the GB did say after TT serves 5 games we can put him on the suspended list and gain a roster spot but since money is still tight, not sure the Cavs will utilize that provision since they already have 2 vacant roster spots (doubt Nance is a long term roster guy, at least this season).

I think Nance would be the most likely option to take a two-way spot this year, but we're definitely waiting till the trade deadline for that kind of roster move.
Yeah, maybe they let Nance expire after 10 days then closer to the deadline put Tristan on the suspended list to have the flexibility to be able to potetinally absorb up to 3 extra guys.

We'll see how Koby plays it
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1789 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:56 pm

It's kind of weird that we can't just void Tristan's contract and release him. I get the players union has a vested interest in protecting their contracts, justifiably fear a false positive, and the teams would rather not drag the justice system in to their affairs; but this is closer to an act of fraud in my mind.

I mean, what if we were so excited about how Tristan looked we handed him a 4yr/$100M deal and then after getting caught he turned back in to a pumpkin? We'd just be stuck paying him?
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1790 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:11 pm

And the hits keep coming, what a complete mismanagement of the injury. It took them 90 days to realize that his injury required surgery?

Guy really is Windler 2.0, wish him a speedy recovery but i assume his season is over.Image
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1791 » by toooskies » Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:20 pm

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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1792 » by afarmenian » Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:37 pm

JonFromVA wrote:It's kind of weird that we can't just void Tristan's contract and release him. I get the players union has a vested interest in protecting their contracts, justifiably fear a false positive, and the teams would rather not drag the justice system in to their affairs; but this is closer to an act of fraud in my mind.

I mean, what if we were so excited about how Tristan looked we handed him a 4yr/$100M deal and then after getting caught he turned back in to a pumpkin? We'd just be stuck paying him?


Who says they couldn't? Maybe they could if they wanted to? They seem to really like his leadership so maybe it's their choice.

And to your point if it was for example Allen no team is going to get rid of an asset like that just because of a 25 game suspension see baseball. Maybe multiple infractions but one time is forgotten quickly
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1793 » by Iwasawitness » Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:50 am

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If I’m Bickerstaff, I’m having Mobley come off the bench in his first game back. This is the Clippers we’re talking about here and they’ve been playing some incredible basketball as of late. Let this lineup we’ve been using get their greatest test yet and let’s see what they can really do.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1794 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:00 am

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If I’m Bickerstaff, I’m having Mobley come off the bench in his first game back. This is the Clippers we’re talking about here and they’ve been playing some incredible basketball as of late. Let this lineup we’ve been using get their greatest test yet and let’s see what they can really do.
Mobley will probably be on minutes restriction for a little while.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1795 » by Iwasawitness » Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:14 pm

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If I’m Bickerstaff, I’m having Mobley come off the bench in his first game back. This is the Clippers we’re talking about here and they’ve been playing some incredible basketball as of late. Let this lineup we’ve been using get their greatest test yet and let’s see what they can really do.
Mobley will probably be on minutes restriction for a little while.


I’m totally fine with this. Have him just keep coming off the bench in the meantime.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1796 » by JonFromVA » Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:57 pm

afarmenian wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:It's kind of weird that we can't just void Tristan's contract and release him. I get the players union has a vested interest in protecting their contracts, justifiably fear a false positive, and the teams would rather not drag the justice system in to their affairs; but this is closer to an act of fraud in my mind.

I mean, what if we were so excited about how Tristan looked we handed him a 4yr/$100M deal and then after getting caught he turned back in to a pumpkin? We'd just be stuck paying him?


Who says they couldn't? Maybe they could if they wanted to? They seem to really like his leadership so maybe it's their choice.

And to your point if it was for example Allen no team is going to get rid of an asset like that just because of a 25 game suspension see baseball. Maybe multiple infractions but one time is forgotten quickly


The CBA says they can't. Both sides collectively bargained and agreed what the penalties would be for PED usage, so, how you can you argue it's a breach of contract when it's in the contract?
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1797 » by ijspeelman » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:41 pm

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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1798 » by JonFromVA » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:55 pm

Wow, another pleasant surprise. Can we be allowed to have nice things for a little while? Please?
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1799 » by toooskies » Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:29 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Wow, another pleasant surprise. Can we be allowed to have nice things for a little while? Please?

And a light schedule to work out the fit that all the podcasters were worrying about: DET, MEM, SAS, SAC, WAS, BRK, TOR. Then Philly and Chicago, then the All-Star game.

Just a half game out of the 3 seed right now and 2.5 out of the 2nd seed.
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Re: 2023-24 Regular Season 

Post#1800 » by toooskies » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:56 pm

After going 3/3 last night, Evan Mobley now has a higher 3p% than everyone on the team except Sam Merrill, Dean Wade, and Isaac Okoro.

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