2023-24 Trade Deadline Thread

[TheNetsFan]

In a pod yesterday, Scotto had DFS as the most likely traded, Claxton almost definitely staying, and 50/50 odds of a trade for Royce and Dinwiddie.

He says DFS is perceived around the league as the 2nd most valuable player on the Nets behind Bridges. The reason he's the most likely traded, is because of the amount of interest. He expects some team to step up and make a really strong offer.

For Dinwiddie, he thinks if the offers are too light now, they could hold him and try to sign and trade him the same way they did last time.

[Netaman]

Truthfully, I’d so much rather we bottom out with our own picks and Phoenix/Dallas’ picks if that opportunity presented itself. And I’m a huge Mitchell and Bridges fan. But for whatever reasons they will probably never do this…

im sort of indifferent. if they owned all their own picks, id probably say sure, bottom out if there's a big deal for bridges. but id need something worth selling him like 2-3 unprotected FRPs from a team where they could mean something. he's a quality piece on a steal of a contract.

having bridges/cam/clax, which i think is a playoff caliber front court, and not having any near term lotto picks, pushes me more in the direction of thinking "ok, probably makes the most sense to just try to buy a back court."

entering the year and through the first few weeks it looked like Simmons/Cam T could be that backcourt, or at least parts of the answer. both tanking since is the reason why we are where we are right now.

if simmons didnt get hurt they dont go through this funk, if cam t was shooting 38% from 3 instead of 34% and scoring enough to be a closer, they have 3 or 4 more wins. if dinwiddie proved to be a competent plan b or if walker didnt get hurt who knows.

none of ben/camt/din had any trade value and if anything i think cam t's has probably marginally increased, so nothing really lost by having tried. the time has just come to try something else. and if there's an offer good enough for bridges that could be the "something else", i just suspect that offer is not out there.

[vincecarter4pres]

Truthfully, I’d so much rather we bottom out with our own picks and Phoenix/Dallas’ picks if that opportunity presented itself. And I’m a huge Mitchell and Bridges fan. But for whatever reasons they will probably never do this…

im sort of indifferent. if they owned all their own picks, id probably say sure, bottom out if there's a big deal for bridges. but id need something worth selling him like 2-3 unprotected FRPs from a team where they could mean something. he's a quality piece on a steal of a contract.

having bridges/cam/clax, which i think is a playoff caliber front court, and not having any near term lotto picks, pushes me more in the direction of thinking "ok, probably makes the most sense to just try to buy a back court."

entering the year and through the first few weeks it looked like Simmons/Cam T could be that backcourt, or at least parts of the answer. both tanking since is the reason why we are where we are right now.

if simmons didnt get hurt they dont go through this funk, if cam t was shooting 38% from 3 instead of 34% and scoring enough to be a closer, they have 3 or 4 more wins. if dinwiddie proved to be a competent plan b or if walker didnt get hurt who knows.

none of ben/camt/din had any trade value and if anything i think cam t's has probably marginally increased, so nothing really lost by having tried. the time has just come to try something else. and if there's an offer good enough for bridges that could be the "something else", i just suspect that offer is not out there.

Don’t really disagree with any of this, was just saying if the specific offer was out there from Houston where we get all our picks back for Bridges, I’d prefer that route.

Then trade DFS and probably Dinwiddie and go from there.

[Jkam31]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

[Netaman]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

[TheNetsFan]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

Depending on what the protections are on the pick, it's probably fair.. I honestly think it gets outbid though. If his ankle injury isn't serious, there will be a bidding war for DFS.

[Netaman]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

Depending on what the protections are on the pick, it's probably fair.. I honestly think it gets outbid though. If his ankle injury isn't serious, there will be a bidding war for DFS.

"bidding war" is all relative. a lot of contending teams simply don't have more than 1 FRPs to trade. or expiring contracts.

use mavericks as an example, even if they were entering a bidding war to bring back a guy who fits and was supposedly popular with lockerroom, there is no way to do the trade without taking back bad $ like richaun holmes. pretty sure the only pick they can trade is 2027, so whoever they trade it for is kind of their "last piece". so their best offer is probably holmes and a 2027 FRP. and im not sure they'd do that. miami fans want a PF but they have even fewer picks to trade so any deal with them probably has to include Herro.

ultimately i expect the best offer to be the pick with the least protections and salary filler that's least negative value. that sac offer is pretty close to best i think nets are going to do.

[TheNetsFan]

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

Depending on what the protections are on the pick, it's probably fair.. I honestly think it gets outbid though. If his ankle injury isn't serious, there will be a bidding war for DFS.

"bidding war" is all relative. a lot of contending teams simply don't have more than 1 FRPs to trade. or expiring contracts.

use mavericks as an example, even if they were entering a bidding war to bring back a guy who fits and was supposedly popular with lockerroom, there is no way to do the trade without taking back bad $ like richaun holmes. pretty sure the only pick they can trade is 2027, so whoever they trade it for is kind of their "last piece". so their best offer is probably holmes and a 2027 FRP. and im not sure they'd do that. miami fans want a PF but they have even fewer picks to trade so any deal with them probably has to include Herro.

ultimately i expect the best offer to be the pick with the least protections and salary filler that's least negative value. that sac offer is pretty close to best i think nets are going to do.

Don't limit a potential trade to picks. It could return a young player(s) of value as well. If there are pick based offers, there's also swaps and 2nd rounders that can get added to outbid teams.

[vincecarter4pres]

Depending on what the protections are on the pick, it's probably fair.. I honestly think it gets outbid though. If his ankle injury isn't serious, there will be a bidding war for DFS.

"bidding war" is all relative. a lot of contending teams simply don't have more than 1 FRPs to trade. or expiring contracts.

use mavericks as an example, even if they were entering a bidding war to bring back a guy who fits and was supposedly popular with lockerroom, there is no way to do the trade without taking back bad $ like richaun holmes. pretty sure the only pick they can trade is 2027, so whoever they trade it for is kind of their "last piece". so their best offer is probably holmes and a 2027 FRP. and im not sure they'd do that. miami fans want a PF but they have even fewer picks to trade so any deal with them probably has to include Herro.

ultimately i expect the best offer to be the pick with the least protections and salary filler that's least negative value. that sac offer is pretty close to best i think nets are going to do.

Don't limit a potential trade to picks. It could return a young player(s) of value as well. If there are pick based offers, there's also swaps and 2nd rounders that can get added to outbid teams.

I mean maybe you can get Moody from GSW and a protected pick?

Are we thinking we can get Jett Howard from Orlando?

Jalen Johnson from Atlanta?

Like whose the specific kid we’re targeting and acquiring? I don’t see the latter two happening. The first one maybe and I like Moody, but probably better off with a pick right now and a 4 year look at a sleeper rookie.

[Netaman]

"bidding war" is all relative. a lot of contending teams simply don't have more than 1 FRPs to trade. or expiring contracts.

use mavericks as an example, even if they were entering a bidding war to bring back a guy who fits and was supposedly popular with lockerroom, there is no way to do the trade without taking back bad $ like richaun holmes. pretty sure the only pick they can trade is 2027, so whoever they trade it for is kind of their "last piece". so their best offer is probably holmes and a 2027 FRP. and im not sure they'd do that. miami fans want a PF but they have even fewer picks to trade so any deal with them probably has to include Herro.

ultimately i expect the best offer to be the pick with the least protections and salary filler that's least negative value. that sac offer is pretty close to best i think nets are going to do.

Don't limit a potential trade to picks. It could return a young player(s) of value as well. If there are pick based offers, there's also swaps and 2nd rounders that can get added to outbid teams.

I mean maybe you can get Moody from GSW and a protected pick?

Are we thinking we can get Jett Howard from Orlando?

Jalen Johnson from Atlanta?

Like whose the specific kid we’re targeting and acquiring? I don’t see the latter two happening. The first one maybe and I like Moody, but probably better off with a pick right now and a 4 year look at a sleeper rookie.

no way hawks give up johnson. one of the gsw guys maybe.

swapping for a younger player isnt impossible but it is probably impossible for us to predict who marks likes enough to go after. any starter already productive enough to be the slightest bit interesting (like johnson, or jacquez) is likely not available. we'd be getting someone else's cam thomas.

[TheNetsFan]

Don't limit a potential trade to picks. It could return a young player(s) of value as well. If there are pick based offers, there's also swaps and 2nd rounders that can get added to outbid teams.

I mean maybe you can get Moody from GSW and a protected pick?

Are we thinking we can get Jett Howard from Orlando?

Jalen Johnson from Atlanta?

Like whose the specific kid we’re targeting and acquiring? I don’t see the latter two happening. The first one maybe and I like Moody, but probably better off with a pick right now and a 4 year look at a sleeper rookie.

no way hawks give up johnson. one of the gsw guys maybe.

swapping for a younger player isnt impossible but it is probably impossible for us to predict who marks likes enough to go after. any starter already productive enough to be the slightest bit interesting (like johnson, or jacquez) is likely not available. we'd be getting someone else's cam thomas.

Would Indy be willing to deal Nembhard? OMax from Dallas? JHS? WCJ? Giddy? Who knows what a contender might offer if they feel a guy is the missing piece.

[Papi_swav]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

we might as well keep Mitchell and Lyles. mitchell is still on his rookie deal and still has some potential, we might as well keep on to all the younger guys we can to develop. And we need another ball handling guard for next year as well. But I think I would accept this deal if this is the best we can get for DFS

[vincecarter4pres]

Kings fan


Whats the price for DFS? Would Trey Lyles, Davion Mitchell, and a 2026 first rounder be enough

yes i think that's pretty much exactly right. nets would probably prefer to re-route lyles/mitchell to a 3rd team but from SAC that's the exact right value (imo).

we might as well keep Mitchell and Lyles. mitchell is still on his rookie deal and still has some potential, we might as well keep on to all the younger guys we can to develop. And we need another ball handling guard for next year as well. But I think I would accept this deal if this is the best we can get for DFS

Yeah agreed. I actually like this deal a lot.

[vincecarter4pres]

Brooklyn sends:
Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Spencer Dinwiddie
2 2nd round picks

Atlanta sends:
DeJounte Murray
Bogdan Bogdanović

Who says no?

[Netaman]

Brooklyn sends:
Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Spencer Dinwiddie
2 2nd round picks

Atlanta sends:
DeJounte Murray
Bogdan Bogdanović

Who says no?

damn thats a good one. bogs being on his a31/32/33's is tough. but nets are kind of getting value of an frp taking him on. and hawks get a starting forward while saving a big chunk of $ next year. cam t is probably a tradeable piece for them.

atlanta may just prefer a FRP the net +7m saved on the cam j/bogs swap though.

[Papi_swav]

Brooklyn sends:
Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Spencer Dinwiddie
2 2nd round picks

Atlanta sends:
DeJounte Murray
Bogdan Bogdanović

Who says no?

I'll do that deal yesterday but I don't think Atlanta would. I doubt they want Cam Thomas, they might want a 1st before him. But for Nets I'm jumping all over this. We need to get some value for Cam Johnson before he turns into an overpaid bad player

[Decipher]

Just throwing it out there

Read in a banner that the Rockets are interested in Williams 3

RW3 is injured, out for the season and his long term future must be uncertain

Clax has a similar game to a healthy RW3 but doesn’t have chronic knee problems

I like Clax but he’s due for an extension AND Sharpe looks to have similar potential so …..

Clax for Dipo (expiring) and our ‘24 1st back

[vincecarter4pres]

Just throwing it out there

Read in a banner that the Rockets are interested in Williams 3

RW3 is injured, out for the season and his long term future must be uncertain

Clax has a similar game to a healthy RW3 but doesn’t have chronic knee problems

I like Clax but he’s due for an extension AND Sharpe looks to have similar potential so …..

Clax for Dipo (expiring) and our ‘24 1st back

I don’t agree that Sharpe has anywhere near the potential of Clax, don’t even know Sharpe has the potential to become a current Clax.

That said, if we got back our ‘24 1st and one of the other future 1st’s or the ‘25 swap option, think we’d have to be all over it.

[vincecarter4pres]

Brooklyn sends:
Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Spencer Dinwiddie
2 2nd round picks

Atlanta sends:
DeJounte Murray
Bogdan Bogdanović

Who says no?

I'll do that deal yesterday but I don't think Atlanta would. I doubt they want Cam Thomas, they might want a 1st before him. But for Nets I'm jumping all over this. We need to get some value for Cam Johnson before he turns into an overpaid bad player

Mainly agree. Not sure Cam is going to become an actual bad player, but I’m still of the thought process he’s one of those guys who is bad when overextended, which he most likely will be here unless we make a major trade or 3.

[vincecarter4pres]

Brooklyn sends:
Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Spencer Dinwiddie
2 2nd round picks

Atlanta sends:
DeJounte Murray
Bogdan Bogdanović

Who says no?

damn thats a good one. bogs being on his a31/32/33's is tough. but nets are kind of getting value of an frp taking him on. and hawks get a starting forward while saving a big chunk of $ next year. cam t is probably a tradeable piece for them.

atlanta may just prefer a FRP the net +7m saved on the cam j/bogs swap though.

Doubt they’d come off Bogs right now unless he was part of a package in which they got back a legitimate upgrade anywhere but point guard, but maybe they view the Cam’s as 2 young long term pieces?