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Someone please fill me in. I've given up understanding how there is never an healthy roster this season.
Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous
BliscoSantos wrote:Damn, another game without Kyrie...this really sucks...now Luka's gonna have to play,yet again, 45 minutes just so that the Mavs stay close... that's a recipe for disaster...we know Luka's banged up...playing him heavy minutes is not a good idea... they're gonna run him to the ground, yet again....Kyrie's got to be healthy for the playoffs, they're gonna need him, offcourse they have to get there first and without trades(and all the injuries piling up) it's gonna be hard
tleikheen wrote:Suggs is a athletic big guard who wont stop Luke (no one does) but Luka is starting to show alittle tiredness . But I think all these minutes are making Luka tougher ,mentally and physically . But still Dante and Kyrie need to be healthy when they come back.
I keep seeing ....enough of JKidds smallball lineup.
GermanFan120 wrote:Luka needs to score 54+ to barely beat the Magic. Good luck.
ozwizard8 wrote:BliscoSantos wrote:Damn, another game without Kyrie...this really sucks...now Luka's gonna have to play,yet again, 45 minutes just so that the Mavs stay close... that's a recipe for disaster...we know Luka's banged up...playing him heavy minutes is not a good idea... they're gonna run him to the ground, yet again....Kyrie's got to be healthy for the playoffs, they're gonna need him, offcourse they have to get there first and without trades(and all the injuries piling up) it's gonna be hard
After the Kyrie trade, even making playoffs become a challenge for Mavs. A team with an MVP favorite is failing to make playoffs would be only possible with Kyrie. Congrats. #1 franchise destroyer.
Mavs paying all the money for Kyrie, sending unprotected picks and trading decent players in Dinwiddie-DFS did not work at all. On-court performance is lackluster. Defensive fit with Luka-THJ is trash, and offensive fit is not great. Physical/mental health issues are disappointing but not surprising.
I cannot imagine what would be Mavs record if Dereck Lively was not a solid rookie center. Seriously no one expected him to be ready for heavy NBA starting minutes like. Lively is playing much better than the rookie version of Tyson Chandler.
Luka is also doing great, it is not like the 2021-22 season, where he missed 15 games before January. Cant imagine what would happen if Luka missed 15 games this season.
I am not sure if this team can make #5, #6 seeds without a really good trade. Luka Magic can advance the team to playoffs with a successful play-in tournament performance. But then again, this team would require to have a very lucky matchup to get 2nd round in playoffs. Clippers-Nuggets can easily finish the West #1-#2 seeds and I dont think Mavs can win series against them.
BliscoSantos wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:BliscoSantos wrote:Damn, another game without Kyrie...this really sucks...now Luka's gonna have to play,yet again, 45 minutes just so that the Mavs stay close... that's a recipe for disaster...we know Luka's banged up...playing him heavy minutes is not a good idea... they're gonna run him to the ground, yet again....Kyrie's got to be healthy for the playoffs, they're gonna need him, offcourse they have to get there first and without trades(and all the injuries piling up) it's gonna be hard
After the Kyrie trade, even making playoffs become a challenge for Mavs. A team with an MVP favorite is failing to make playoffs would be only possible with Kyrie. Congrats. #1 franchise destroyer.
Mavs paying all the money for Kyrie, sending unprotected picks and trading decent players in Dinwiddie-DFS did not work at all. On-court performance is lackluster. Defensive fit with Luka-THJ is trash, and offensive fit is not great. Physical/mental health issues are disappointing but not surprising.
I cannot imagine what would be Mavs record if Dereck Lively was not a solid rookie center. Seriously no one expected him to be ready for heavy NBA starting minutes like. Lively is playing much better than the rookie version of Tyson Chandler.
Luka is also doing great, it is not like the 2021-22 season, where he missed 15 games before January. Cant imagine what would happen if Luka missed 15 games this season.
I am not sure if this team can make #5, #6 seeds without a really good trade. Luka Magic can advance the team to playoffs with a successful play-in tournament performance. But then again, this team would require to have a very lucky matchup to get 2nd round in playoffs. Clippers-Nuggets can easily finish the West #1-#2 seeds and I dont think Mavs can win series against them.
I get what you're trying to say but it's not Kyrie's fault the rest of the roster is bad...sure if Kyrie was healthy they'd go to the playoffs,but it's not like they're a contender.
blicka wrote:Can't wait to see doncic on an island vs jimmy butler,paul george or kahwi leonard and those weak ass moves that work in europe getting shut down
Mavrelous wrote:This is the 2nd year in a row team's franchise player is stranded with inadequate roster, climbing an impossible hill, 1-4 in the last 5 with him scoring 73 to squeak the sole win.
The franchise isn't in a good spot and everyone from FO, through coaching staff to players need to reflect and draw conclusions.
6th year of an MVP calibre player shouldn't look like that.
Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but not much to be excited about at this point.
dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:This is the 2nd year in a row team's franchise player is stranded with inadequate roster, climbing an impossible hill, 1-4 in the last 5 with him scoring 73 to squeak the sole win.
The franchise isn't in a good spot and everyone from FO, through coaching staff to players need to reflect and draw conclusions.
6th year of an MVP calibre player shouldn't look like that.
Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but not much to be excited about at this point.
Cuban doing an AMA on X right now. Go let him have it... (A lot of MFFLs are)
blicka wrote:Can't wait to see doncic on an island vs jimmy butler,paul george or kahwi leonard and those weak ass moves that work in europe getting shut down
Mavrelous wrote:dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:This is the 2nd year in a row team's franchise player is stranded with inadequate roster, climbing an impossible hill, 1-4 in the last 5 with him scoring 73 to squeak the sole win.
The franchise isn't in a good spot and everyone from FO, through coaching staff to players need to reflect and draw conclusions.
6th year of an MVP calibre player shouldn't look like that.
Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but not much to be excited about at this point.
Cuban doing an AMA on X right now. Go let him have it... (A lot of MFFLs are)
Blocked him long ago, can't stand his sanctimonious ass.
ozwizard8 wrote:BliscoSantos wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:
After the Kyrie trade, even making playoffs become a challenge for Mavs. A team with an MVP favorite is failing to make playoffs would be only possible with Kyrie. Congrats. #1 franchise destroyer.
Mavs paying all the money for Kyrie, sending unprotected picks and trading decent players in Dinwiddie-DFS did not work at all. On-court performance is lackluster. Defensive fit with Luka-THJ is trash, and offensive fit is not great. Physical/mental health issues are disappointing but not surprising.
I cannot imagine what would be Mavs record if Dereck Lively was not a solid rookie center. Seriously no one expected him to be ready for heavy NBA starting minutes like. Lively is playing much better than the rookie version of Tyson Chandler.
Luka is also doing great, it is not like the 2021-22 season, where he missed 15 games before January. Cant imagine what would happen if Luka missed 15 games this season.
I am not sure if this team can make #5, #6 seeds without a really good trade. Luka Magic can advance the team to playoffs with a successful play-in tournament performance. But then again, this team would require to have a very lucky matchup to get 2nd round in playoffs. Clippers-Nuggets can easily finish the West #1-#2 seeds and I dont think Mavs can win series against them.
I get what you're trying to say but it's not Kyrie's fault the rest of the roster is bad...sure if Kyrie was healthy they'd go to the playoffs,but it's not like they're a contender.
It is Mavs FO's fault of bringing kyrie. It took us unprotected picks, dfs, dinwiddie to get kyrie. Kyrie is making max money.
Kyrie is not playing like a max player.
Imagine Mavs having Paul Geroge, KAT, Bam Adebayo, D.Booker etc. I did not even count the superstars. Just listed some max players that are worth the given salary.
Kyrie being unavailable due to mental or physical health issues is not a new thing. As a max player he is fraud but I cant accuse him for taking the max contract, that's the FO's mistake. Cuban is probably paying $1m/game for Kyrie since Kyrie is out for half of the games. I dont care how much money Cuban would lose, but I do care about salary cap.
Paying Kyrie max money (while having Luka-THJ) means the rest of the roster to be bad. He may not be responsible for signing a lucrative deal. But Mavs FO is responsible for investing in Kyrie. Its been 1 year and total record is terrible. The reality is Mavs are struggling to make playoffs after that trade while having prime Luka.
ozwizard8 wrote:BliscoSantos wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:
After the Kyrie trade, even making playoffs become a challenge for Mavs. A team with an MVP favorite is failing to make playoffs would be only possible with Kyrie. Congrats. #1 franchise destroyer.
Mavs paying all the money for Kyrie, sending unprotected picks and trading decent players in Dinwiddie-DFS did not work at all. On-court performance is lackluster. Defensive fit with Luka-THJ is trash, and offensive fit is not great. Physical/mental health issues are disappointing but not surprising.
I cannot imagine what would be Mavs record if Dereck Lively was not a solid rookie center. Seriously no one expected him to be ready for heavy NBA starting minutes like. Lively is playing much better than the rookie version of Tyson Chandler.
Luka is also doing great, it is not like the 2021-22 season, where he missed 15 games before January. Cant imagine what would happen if Luka missed 15 games this season.
I am not sure if this team can make #5, #6 seeds without a really good trade. Luka Magic can advance the team to playoffs with a successful play-in tournament performance. But then again, this team would require to have a very lucky matchup to get 2nd round in playoffs. Clippers-Nuggets can easily finish the West #1-#2 seeds and I dont think Mavs can win series against them.
I get what you're trying to say but it's not Kyrie's fault the rest of the roster is bad...sure if Kyrie was healthy they'd go to the playoffs,but it's not like they're a contender.
It is Mavs FO's fault of bringing kyrie. It took us unprotected picks, dfs, dinwiddie to get kyrie. Kyrie is making max money.
Kyrie is not playing like a max player.
Imagine Mavs having Paul Geroge, KAT, Bam Adebayo, D.Booker etc. I did not even count the superstars. Just listed some max players that are worth the given salary.
Kyrie being unavailable due to mental or physical health issues is not a new thing. As a max player he is fraud but I cant accuse him for taking the max contract, that's the FO's mistake. Cuban is probably paying $1m/game for Kyrie since Kyrie is out for half of the games. I dont care how much money Cuban would lose, but I do care about salary cap.
Paying Kyrie max money (while having Luka-THJ) means the rest of the roster to be bad. He may not be responsible for signing a lucrative deal. But Mavs FO is responsible for investing in Kyrie. Its been 1 year and total record is terrible. The reality is Mavs are struggling to make playoffs after that trade while having prime Luka.
BliscoSantos wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:BliscoSantos wrote:
I get what you're trying to say but it's not Kyrie's fault the rest of the roster is bad...sure if Kyrie was healthy they'd go to the playoffs,but it's not like they're a contender.
It is Mavs FO's fault of bringing kyrie. It took us unprotected picks, dfs, dinwiddie to get kyrie. Kyrie is making max money.
Kyrie is not playing like a max player.
Imagine Mavs having Paul Geroge, KAT, Bam Adebayo, D.Booker etc. I did not even count the superstars. Just listed some max players that are worth the given salary.
Kyrie being unavailable due to mental or physical health issues is not a new thing. As a max player he is fraud but I cant accuse him for taking the max contract, that's the FO's mistake. Cuban is probably paying $1m/game for Kyrie since Kyrie is out for half of the games. I dont care how much money Cuban would lose, but I do care about salary cap.
Paying Kyrie max money (while having Luka-THJ) means the rest of the roster to be bad. He may not be responsible for signing a lucrative deal. But Mavs FO is responsible for investing in Kyrie. Its been 1 year and total record is terrible. The reality is Mavs are struggling to make playoffs after that trade while having prime Luka.
That's because you're assuming Mavs could bring in another star(KAT,Booker,George)...btw,you named three players who the Mavs had no chance of getting,those teams were buyers,not sellers
The only problem Kyrie has is injuries(Towns and George aren't ironmen either, they've been relatively healthy this season)
Mavs Got the Best Player they could for verry little...and let's not pretend like they'd be any better with those two...they traded them away cause it didn't work(Both their stats are down)...
I said it before and I'll say it again...DJJ and Exum are on minimum contracts and and are outplaying everybody not named Luka,Kai,THJ and Lively...what do Holmes,Kleber,Grant,Powell give you??Green Just started playing good,was **** the entire season before this stretch,Hardy is giving you nothing(he's basicaly a worse THJ)
At least Mavs get something from the backcourt,the frontcourt apart from Lively gives you nothing..Maxi,Holmes and Kleber combined make 30 mio and they give you 10pts and 10reb and no D