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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#781 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:26 am

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MainEvent wrote:When is Poeltl back? He can easily derail the tank, how many of these games would we have won simply by having a 7foot center who can defend the paint and rebound? ATL, MEM, CHI since the Pascal trade could have all been W's if we were healthy

Honestly, I think Capela still cooks us with him, he's just too flat footed.

That said, ship him out, we tankin boys.


Its a **** one point game giving up an offensive rebound to win it. But sure. :crazy:
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Post#783 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:45 am

Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:blake murphy in on the tank

He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune
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Post#784 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:08 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:blake murphy in on the tank

He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune


I have also. Let's worry about next year's pick later.
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Post#785 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:13 am

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Jerry Lucas wrote:He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune


I have also. Let's worry about next year's pick later.


Same. Take whats in front of you. If you are bottom 6, then you need help asap. My only worry is getting screwed in the lottery
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Re: Tank World Order (The Remix Vol. IV) 

Post#786 » by Jerry Lucas » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:18 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:blake murphy in on the tank

He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."
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Post#787 » by SpezNc » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:20 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:blake murphy in on the tank

He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune


Really? Do you know where I could see that

I have seen to many Raptors medias fully being on the BangWagon “covey the pick” almost as if it was certain we would lose the pick next year should we keep this year.

The only exception I saw was somebody invited in Raptors republic poscast. Don’t remember his name. He was bang on with my opinion.

People are speaking with certainty as if pick 1-6 this year is 100% worse as pick 7-14 next year.

The reality is we don’t know even if this draft is underwhelming.

I am definitely Team Tank although this “convey/not convey” is very hard because there is plus and minus to both options.

But anytime you can add a top6 pick, IMO you have to take it because you never know when the opportunity going to pass again.
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Post#788 » by TNRaps4life » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:25 am

Okc loosing , we now pick 26th
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Post#789 » by 2019nbachamps » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:25 am

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Another “weak” draft :lol:

Pretty crazy Bobby had to fully introduce himself to Larry T even though he was a VP at the time. I guess Larry only deals with the President.
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Post#790 » by Childs » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:26 am

TNRaps4life wrote:Okc loosing , we now pick 26th


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Post#791 » by SpezNc » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:37 am

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TNRaps4life wrote:Okc loosing , we now pick 26th


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For the OKC/Clippers pick : Loss by Clippers and OKC are :D :D
For the Det pick : Win by Washington is :D :D

But for the Keep the pick / make play in it was a rough night

Memphis losing (Spot #6 bad is in jeopardy to flip back soon to Memphis if we start winning)
Nets winning (harder to reach play in)
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Post#792 » by bballsparkin » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:41 am

How could we not want to keep a top 6 protected pick? Wait for next year to maybe get a top 11? That's way to rational for my liking. I want a top 6 pick, preferably top 4 and I want it now.
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Post#793 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:45 am

Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Ya thats not what i got. Blake is a smart guy. He admitted the rest of the season is pretty much done and results dont matter. Team is clearly tanking. If we are sitting bottom 6, i dont see why anyone would say ya nah just give it to san antonio. The light protection screwed us. But if you are in a position to get it, u go for it.
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Post#794 » by SpezNc » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:46 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:He changed his tune


I have also. Let's worry about next year's pick later.


Same. Take whats in front of you. If you are bottom 6, then you need help asap. My only worry is getting screwed in the lottery


I am 200% Team Tank but at this point let have faith that the Lottery (pick convey or not convey) going to be what is best for the organization

If we win a top4 pick : what’s not to like. Let’s go…

If pick convey : okay Masai has already 3 pick in top 35. He has flexibility to advance, stay pat and add some prospect. And the cloud of the SA pick is gone. We can start 2024-25 fresh

But yeah, i hope the lottery going to be favourable to us.
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Post#795 » by SpezNc » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:52 am

Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:He's on team "convey the pick this year" so I doubt it

He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Samson was delaying his answer. He said he want another 10 games and see Quick / Poeltl together

His heart has not write off this season I think
His brain probably knows we need to keep the pick

Es Baraheni Is definitely 200% Team Let’s conveys. He made some good argument but I feel it’s more politics for him.

As if the Raptors not winning is less good for their clicks and views.
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Post#796 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:59 am

SpezNc wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Samson was delaying his answer. He said he want another 10 games and see Quick / Poeltl together

His heart has not write off this season I think
His brain probably knows we need to keep the pick

Es Baraheni Is definitely 200% Team Let’s conveys. He made some good argument but I feel it’s more politics for him.

As if the Raptors not winning is less good for their clicks and views.


ya exactly all those guys make money of fan engagement. blake works for the team indirectly. They are on board tanking this year but they dont want to openly admit it
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Post#797 » by Jerry Lucas » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:04 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Ya thats not what i got. Blake is a smart guy. He admitted the rest of the season is pretty much done and results dont matter. Team is clearly tanking. If we are sitting bottom 6, i dont see why anyone would say ya nah just give it to san antonio. The light protection screwed us. But if you are in a position to get it, u go for it.

To address the bolded, they were chatting about this from a player development perspective not "are you team keep or convey". They were basically saying development is what they're looking at more than wins and losses.

Let's not forget that development and tanking are not the exact same thing. Folk even made a comment in relation to this, something along the lines of "everyone who wants to trade Poeltl to tank doesn't realize you need a big like him on your roster for development even though he positively impacts winning."

To address the underlined, those bozos Sam Folk and Es Baraheni both just said it today lol so there's 2 Raptors media people already (although both fringe). Straight up said "convey the pick this year."
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Post#798 » by SpezNc » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:05 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Samson was delaying his answer. He said he want another 10 games and see Quick / Poeltl together

His heart has not write off this season I think
His brain probably knows we need to keep the pick

Es Baraheni Is definitely 200% Team Let’s conveys. He made some good argument but I feel it’s more politics for him.

As if the Raptors not winning is less good for their clicks and views.


ya exactly all those guys make money of fan engagement. blake works for the team indirectly. They are on board tanking this year but they dont want to openly admit it


The irony is there is nothing more unifier as a fan base than tanking (okay I am a bit sarcastic here :lol: )
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Post#799 » by Jerry Lucas » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:07 am

SpezNc wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:He changed his tune

That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Samson was delaying his answer. He said he want another 10 games and see Quick / Poeltl together

His heart has not write off this season I think
His brain probably knows we need to keep the pick

Es Baraheni Is definitely 200% Team Let’s conveys. He made some good argument but I feel it’s more politics for him.

As if the Raptors not winning is less good for their clicks and views.

Samson is definitely at the very least leaning "convey the pick." He did say that thing about wanting to see more of IQ+Poeltl before making a hard decision, but in the video version of the episode towards the end of their guest appearances when Baraheni says "convey the pick", you can clearly see that Folk is in agreement with him.
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Post#800 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:09 am

Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:That's not what I took from today's episode with Samson Folk and that Es Baraheni dude. Only those 2 said they were outright team "convey the pick" while Blake played the non-committal neutral host.

The last time he even gave anything remotely close to his own opinion on what side he was on was in an episode less than a week after the Siakam trade where him, Will Lou and Vivek Jacob IIRC were doing hypothetical best case/worst case Raptors scenarios for the near future, and Blake when he was doing worst case said "Raptors keep the pick this year."

He isn't outright saying it yet because he likely realizes he's going to get fan backlash for siding against the majority of Raptors fans and let's face it, Masai too at this point, but I'm pretty sure he's team "convey the pick this year."


Ya thats not what i got. Blake is a smart guy. He admitted the rest of the season is pretty much done and results dont matter. Team is clearly tanking. If we are sitting bottom 6, i dont see why anyone would say ya nah just give it to san antonio. The light protection screwed us. But if you are in a position to get it, u go for it.

To address the bolded, they were chatting about this from a player development perspective not "are you team keep or convey".

To address the underlined, those bozos Sam Folk and Es Baraheni both just said it today lol so there's 2 Raptors media people already (although both fringe). Straight up said "convey the pick this year."


The tanking/development is correlated with our pick. Blake admitted the rest of the year is a write off and the results dont matter. He knows they are tanking. If they are tanking, that means they want to keep their pick. If they are tanking and still want to give it up, well then they are a bunch of idiots ... but i dont think that's the case. Dont worry about those guys. They are clueless and not giving the truth. They need fan engagement for their **** websites.

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