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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#821 » by wco81 » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:37 am

Mike Lombardi said that Campbell played a 5 man front, to take away the running game and dare Purdy to beat them.

Especially wanted to attack the 49ers guards who are weak and early in the game, they were being pushed back into Purdy, not giving him room to step up, which is what happened on the int.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#822 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:09 am

wco81 wrote:Mike Lombardi said that Campbell played a 5 man front, to take away the running game and dare Purdy to beat them.

Especially wanted to attack the 49ers guards who are weak and early in the game, they were being pushed back into Purdy, not giving him room to step up, which is what happened on the int.

I think Shanahan gives up.some size and strength for athleticism and mobility. We get better run blocking than pass blocking. PFF did not give our guards a good grade this week
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#823 » by wco81 » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:35 am

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wco81 wrote:Mike Lombardi said that Campbell played a 5 man front, to take away the running game and dare Purdy to beat them.

Especially wanted to attack the 49ers guards who are weak and early in the game, they were being pushed back into Purdy, not giving him room to step up, which is what happened on the int.

I think Shanahan gives up.some size and strength for athleticism and mobility. We get better run blocking than pass blocking. PFF did not give our guards a good grade this week



He specifically called out Banks and Feliciano being pushed around. Lions DTs are not big in sack numbers but they are apparently power players so they just pushed up the middle to collapse the pocket.

Curiously, Hutchinson didn't get a sack I believe against McKivitz.

Chris Jones will obviously be a greater challenge, either inside or at RE against McKivitz. He's playing for a new contract so he's got a lot of motivation.

But Spags will supplement with blitz because their secondary covers better than the Lions do.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#824 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:27 pm

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wco81 wrote:Mike Lombardi said that Campbell played a 5 man front, to take away the running game and dare Purdy to beat them.

Especially wanted to attack the 49ers guards who are weak and early in the game, they were being pushed back into Purdy, not giving him room to step up, which is what happened on the int.

I think Shanahan gives up.some size and strength for athleticism and mobility. We get better run blocking than pass blocking. PFF did not give our guards a good grade this week



He specifically called out Banks and Feliciano being pushed around. Lions DTs are not big in sack numbers but they are apparently power players so they just pushed up the middle to collapse the pocket.

Curiously, Hutchinson didn't get a sack I believe against McKivitz.

Chris Jones will obviously be a greater challenge, either inside or at RE against McKivitz. He's playing for a new contract so he's got a lot of motivation.

But Spags will supplement with blitz because their secondary covers better than the Lions do.


Because Kittle took his soul when he buried him with a pancake block in the run game. I would imagine we were chipping Hutchinson a fair bit.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#825 » by arich35 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:09 am

"Purdy wasn't good in the first half"
This might be his best throw considering the circumstance
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#826 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:54 am

arich35 wrote:"Purdy wasn't good in the first half"
This might be his best throw considering the circumstance
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Yep. No way in hell Jared Goff makes that play. And Goff would be useless the rest of the game if he took a hit like that.

Playing under pressure is one of those things that Brock does exceptionally well - for anyone, much less a guy his age and experience level - that can be underestimated, but it's absolutely vital to playing QB at the next level in the NFL.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#827 » by zman1 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:21 am

Where's BJ?

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#828 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:31 am

zman1 wrote:Where's BJ?

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#829 » by Jikkle » Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:25 am



Buckle up because it's a long one.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#831 » by Jikkle » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:13 am

arich35 wrote:"Purdy wasn't good in the first half"
This might be his best throw considering the circumstance
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It wasn't his most impressive play but it was probably my favorite play of his.

It's a very short list of QBs that not only would willingly take that hit but still deliver the ball accurately.

If he'd tucked the ball and ducked taking a sack nobody at all would blame him for doing that.

Anyone who said he had a bad first half wasn't watching the game but I also wouldn't say it was a good first half for him either and more of a mixed bag.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#832 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:42 pm

Also reinforces that, despite his toughness, we need to get him a stronger OL. Give him even a little more time in the pocket, and he will become even more lethal.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#833 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:53 pm

Jikkle wrote:

Buckle up because it's a long one.


Is that JT O'Sullivan? I like the substance of his analysis but for me it often takes too long for him to get to the point he is trying to make and I just want to turn it off.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#834 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:56 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Also reinforces that, despite his toughness, we need to get him a stronger OL. Give him even a little more time in the pocket, and he will become even more lethal.


Maybe it is just me and I know i've already said it before, but it seems Shanahan prefers olineman that are athletic, nimble and can move well for his running game and is willing to sacrifice bulk and strength for it. Trent Williams is an exception but he has a rare quality of being big, strong, and nimble on his feet.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#835 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:54 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Jikkle wrote:

Buckle up because it's a long one.


Is that JT O'Sullivan? I like the substance of his analysis but for me it often takes too long for him to get to the point he is trying to make and I just want to turn it off.


Yeah, I like his work, but it seems like he's gotten increasingly long-winded. His 20-minute in-season ones are better IMO. This should be half the length.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#836 » by Jikkle » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:22 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Also reinforces that, despite his toughness, we need to get him a stronger OL. Give him even a little more time in the pocket, and he will become even more lethal.


Maybe it is just me and I know i've already said it before, but it seems Shanahan prefers olineman that are athletic, nimble and can move well for his running game and is willing to sacrifice bulk and strength for it. Trent Williams is an exception but he has a rare quality of being big, strong, and nimble on his feet.


He does prefer the more athletic type of linemen but they are still aren't performing to expectations even his because there is no way you want linemen that are sitting on Purdy's lap so much you can call him Santa.

Other teams like the Packers and Dolphins run the same offense and their offensive lines perform so it's not like we can't get linemen who are better blockers but still function in Shanahan's offense.

And I understand Shanahan's philosophy when it comes to the offensive line in that he doesn't want to pour a ton of resources into it because he believes his scheme can mask it and the money you spend doesn't come close to the production. And to a certain extent he's right but the issue is that when we face good defenses the offensive line falls apart especially if we have to play from behind. There is something to Shanahan's 0 for 30 something (well now 2 for 30 something) record when behind late in games.

What I don't get is why they aren't more aggressive in drafting the position in the draft. If it's a position you want to turnover basically and not really put any significant money into outside LT then our picks should skew to picking a little more on the offensive line until you get it mostly right.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#837 » by wco81 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:52 am

49ers have have "finesse" linemen, especially in the interior, for decades. They were great at pulling but not runs up the gut or sometimes pass protection.

That may be a WCO thing, maybe they want to value QBs and weapons more.

Trent Williams is not in the mold that the 49ers have historically drafted, like a top 5 OL pick.

When Larry Allen signed with the 49ers at the end of his career, he was still the most physically dominant OL starter.

They may be able to get away with not using high picks for linemen (though Banks was a second-rounder and he was also pushed back) but that assumes they're getting good yields out of all their first, second and third round picks, which hasn't been the case with this regime.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#838 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Feb 1, 2024 5:09 pm

Regardless of what happens in the SB, O-line needs to be priority #1. Draft an eventual Trent replacement and put him at RT.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#839 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Feb 1, 2024 6:53 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:Regardless of what happens in the SB, O-line needs to be priority #1. Draft an eventual Trent replacement and put him at RT.


Draft a Trent replacement and put him at RT. Draft a McKivitz replacement and put him at IOL. Draft a Banks replacement and put him at whichever spot also needs help. We have three IOL who consistently score in the 50s or lower based on PFF. That can't happen. You need to give your QB more time.

I've said it before, in this thread no less, but I think the IOL struggles are a completely overlooked aspect of Purdy's success. You can point to his skill position players all day, and you wouldn't be wrong that they're exceptional. But his IOL sucks at pass-blocking, and he's still playing at a really high level.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#840 » by Samurai » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:15 pm

zman1 wrote:Where's BJ?

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Hopefully he is very happy talking up Lance's superior athleticism in all the many Trey Lance threads. This thread should be about Purdy.

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