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Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST

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Re: Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST 

Post#81 » by theBigLip » Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:46 am

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mattao313 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:For the same reason any other player in the NBA would be deemed as less than apparently, he can't shoot 3s.

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Nah it's because of his defense and him purely being a rim runner.


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Yep, he's definitely not taking guys off the dribble or showing improved footwork and post moves to be able to score 1 on 1 downlow.

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Zeeb mentioned it and I’ll reiterate - he’s 20 years old! He’s in the league 2 years and some guys will be drafted in June that will be older than he is. He’s a keeper for sure.
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Re: Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST 

Post#82 » by DetroitSho » Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:10 pm

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mattao313 wrote:Nah it's because of his defense and him purely being a rim runner.


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Yep, he's definitely not taking guys off the dribble or showing improved footwork and post moves to be able to score 1 on 1 downlow.

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Zeeb mentioned it and I’ll reiterate - he’s 20 years old! He’s in the league 2 years and some guys will be drafted in June that will be older than he is. He’s a keeper for sure.
To be clear, my comment was tongue in cheek and I wholeheartedly agree with you.

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Re: Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST 

Post#83 » by bstein14 » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:12 pm

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zeebneeb wrote:I must have missed those.

For reference to those who wish to trade Duren;

AGE-20 years 72 days.

#5 in RPG (11.9)
#9 in DD (23)
#6 in FG% (64.2% 14.1ppg)
#7 in ORB (3.3)

Per 36 sophomore season:

P17.0 R14.3 B1.0 S0.5 A3.1 FG% .642

DWIGHT HOWARD AGE 20 per 36 sophomore season:

P15.4 R12.2 B1.4 S0.8 A1.5 FG% .531

Trade him for what exactly?
For the same reason any other player in the NBA would be deemed as less than apparently, he can't shoot 3s.

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Nah it's because of his defense and him purely being a rim runner.


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Interesting to me that Dwight only had four 20 PPG seasons in his career... his 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th seasons they were all with Orlando. He had 3 years of averaging 14+ RPG (also all with Orlando) but no years averaging over 14.5 RPG.

I think Duren has a decent chance at 17+ and 14+ next year. He's at 14 and 12 this year total but he's closer to 16 and 13 over the past two months.

In our 6 wins this season Duren as put up 18.5 PPG 16.2 RPG in 30.1 MPG with an insane 150 offensive rating and 105 defensive rating.
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Re: Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST 

Post#84 » by mattao313 » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:42 pm

bstein14 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:For the same reason any other player in the NBA would be deemed as less than apparently, he can't shoot 3s.

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Nah it's because of his defense and him purely being a rim runner.


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Interesting to me that Dwight only had four 20 PPG seasons in his career... his 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th seasons they were all with Orlando. He had 3 years of averaging 14+ RPG (also all with Orlando) but no years averaging over 14.5 RPG.

I think Duren has a decent chance at 17+ and 14+ next year. He's at 14 and 12 this year total but he's closer to 16 and 13 over the past two months.

In our 6 wins this season Duren as put up 18.5 PPG 16.2 RPG in 30.1 MPG with an insane 150 offensive rating and 105 defensive rating.
To be clear I don't want to trade him but the idea that he's flawless and better than our other prospects is what bugs me. Really good rim runner but his defense is questionable at best and he's definitely undersized and struggles against size. Lopez, gobert, and Richards were absolutely working him all night.

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Re: Game 46: Pistons vs Thunder 2PM EST 

Post#85 » by zeebneeb » Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:10 pm

bstein14 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:For the same reason any other player in the NBA would be deemed as less than apparently, he can't shoot 3s.

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Nah it's because of his defense and him purely being a rim runner.


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Interesting to me that Dwight only had four 20 PPG seasons in his career... his 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th seasons they were all with Orlando. He had 3 years of averaging 14+ RPG (also all with Orlando) but no years averaging over 14.5 RPG.

I think Duren has a decent chance at 17+ and 14+ next year. He's at 14 and 12 this year total but he's closer to 16 and 13 over the past two months.

In our 6 wins this season Duren as put up 18.5 PPG 16.2 RPG in 30.1 MPG with an insane 150 offensive rating and 105 defensive rating.
What Duren is doing in 29mpg, is better then what Dwight was doing at the same age. If Duren played 36mpg, he would be talked about for the all-star game, right now.

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