What would it take for MLSE to fire Masai Ujiri?

TheAlchemist23 · Post #1 » by **TheAlchemist23** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:42 am

The Raptors FO is one of the best compensated front offices in the whole league despite working for a mostly corporate owned entity. His FVV/Siakam/OG core was below mediocre. The Raptors went into every season since 2020 with the intention to win, yet besides 2022 they've all failed miserably. MLSE is a corporate entity.... with 'the human element' Larry T allegedly on his way out, at what point do the corporate entities who have the fiduciary duty to maximize profit for shareholders say they can't stomach paying top dollar for less than mediocre results.

GP2 · Post #2 » by **GP2** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:45 am

TheAlchemist23 wrote:The Raptors FO is one of the best compensated front offices in the whole league despite working for a mostly corporate owned entity. His FVV/Siakam/OG core was below mediocre. The Raptors went into every season since 2020 with the intention to win, yet besides 2022 they've all failed miserably. The Raptors FO is one of the best compensated front offices in the whole league. MLSE is a corporate entity. With 'the human element' Larry T allegedly on his way out, at what point do the corporate entities who have the fiduciary duty to maximize profit for shareholders say they can't stomach paying top dollar for less than mediocre results.

An outrageous public scandal. Otherwise he would quit before ever getting fired.

Indeed · Post #3 » by **Indeed** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:45 am

When someone better is available.

Vampirate · Post #4 » by **Vampirate** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:47 am

I really don't trust the Raptors to find a better F.O. despite how frustrating the last few years have been.

Def Leppard · Post #5 » by **Def Leppard** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:48 am

The devil you know, is worth two in the bush

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Potential · Post #6 » by **Potential** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:53 am

Dwelling on the negative simply contributes to its power

Ado05 · Post #7 » by **Ado05** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:59 am

Ed Rogers to have full control.

Post #8 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:16 am

If he ignored the obvious high leverage signings of Noel, Dedmon and Favors.

DelAbbot · Post #9 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:22 am

Having pivoted to a full rebuild has bought Masai more time. All the missteps (not trading FVV, not trading Siakam earlier, Poeltl trade) are hidden in the multiple draft picks in 2024 (weak draft) and RJ + IQ. They will manifest themselves in the length of this rebuild - meaning it will take much longer to get enough assets to get back to competitiveness. And the currency of exchange for assets is losses (for draft positions)

2019nbachamps · Post #10 » by **2019nbachamps** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:35 am

If we’re just as bad next season I think they’re in trouble.

TheAlchemist23 · Post #11 » by **TheAlchemist23** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:53 am

DelAbbot wrote:Having pivoted to a full rebuild has bought Masai more time. All the missteps (not trading FVV, not trading Siakam earlier, Poeltl trade) are hidden in the multiple draft picks in 2024 (weak draft) and RJ + IQ. They will manifest themselves in the length of this rebuild - meaning it will take much longer to get enough assets to get back to competitiveness. And the currency of exchange for assets is losses (for draft positions)

When Masai traded out of 2024 draft last year they said it was weak but now they have multiple picks in what they said was a bad draft :lol:

DreamTeam09 · Post #12 » by **DreamTeam09** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:04 am

Hiring someone from Realgm to run MLSE. Although we'd have Jalen Suggs & DeAndre hunter as Raps, maybe even Kofi Cockburn patrolling the paint

DelAbbot · Post #13 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:16 am

TheAlchemist23 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:Having pivoted to a full rebuild has bought Masai more time. All the missteps (not trading FVV, not trading Siakam earlier, Poeltl trade) are hidden in the multiple draft picks in 2024 (weak draft) and RJ + IQ. They will manifest themselves in the length of this rebuild - meaning it will take much longer to get enough assets to get back to competitiveness. And the currency of exchange for assets is losses (for draft positions)

When Masai traded out of 2024 draft last year they said it was weak but now they have multiple picks in what they said was a bad draft

Sure is nice when you get paid top 5 of your profession in the 10M+ range and are never held accountable because there is no better alternative according to most posters here

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #14 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:17 am

Let's see, after Kawhi leaves in 2020 they chose not to tank. If they now reverse that decision and admit fault, bingo.

DelAbbot · Post #15 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:18 am

2019nbachamps wrote:If we’re just as bad next season I think they’re in trouble.

I don't see that.

But I do see some pressure if we get bumped down to 7th and convey it to the Spurs after losing a lot this year.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #16 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:22 am

They wont make it past this summer. They made the mess, they can't fix it.

ontnut · Post #17 » by **ontnut** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:27 am

If Masai bitch slapped Larry T and Ed Rogers with a chocolate cake in a board meeting while wearing a Borat swimsuit, he might get fired.

dafan590 · Post #18 » by **dafan590** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:30 am

You should ask the same question about the leafs on a leafs board. That team is in shambles.

SharoneWright · Post #19 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:53 am

Only if he took sides against the family.

Zeno · Post #20 » by **Zeno** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:49 am

It takes dumb ownership, that’s what it would take.

Fire Masai and Bobby?