Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

DiplomaticMagic · Post #981 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:20 am

Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

thelead · Post #982 » by **thelead** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:22 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

That was clear after they made their moves

Post #983 » by **eyriq** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:37 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

Yup. Longshot to land top 6. Play-in will be hella fun, though.

thelead · Post #984 » by **thelead** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:46 am

eyriq wrote:The narrative is growing

Read on Twitter
?t=HdMrpj4GUJB5nNhkTo9hSg&s=19

What does this have to do with replacing Cole with Tyus? :wink:

Post #985 » by **eyriq** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:58 am

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:The narrative is growing

Read on Twitter
?t=HdMrpj4GUJB5nNhkTo9hSg&s=19

What does this have to do with replacing Cole with Tyus?

And you lure me back in!

tiderulz · Post #986 » by **tiderulz** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:15 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

their front offices made moves, ours is just waiting for the senior special at Dennys

Post #987 » by **SOUL** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:20 am

Read on Twitter

?t=qYRsICSSgPwTp4rupo-geQ

drsd · Post #988 » by **drsd** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:13 am

Orlando Magic Have Played In More Tight Games Down the Stretch On the Road Than Any Other Team

NBA.com link: Down the Stretch

This is not a surprise at all. Orlando is 15th in points differential sitting at +0.5 ppg. By literally being average, the Magic will statistically be in a lot of close games.

The good news here for Orlando is that the team's ppg differential is significantly better than the Heat's. Playing out over the final 35, there is a better than 50/50 chance the Magic will win the South East. (that is, Miami is actually less than mediocre right now as far as scoring differential goes: 20th in the league).

drsd · Post #989 » by **drsd** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:15 am

tiderulz wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

their front offices made moves, ours is just waiting for the senior special at Dennys

With the Knicks at +6 ppg better than the Magic on points differential and the Cavs at +4, really the target for Orlando is the Pacers.

I cannot see any path of the Magic landing higher than the 5 seed. (or lower than the 8 seed).

fendilim · Post #990 » by **fendilim** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:51 am

https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/run-your-race/id1636718576?i=1000643632652

Good listen

pepe1991 · Post #991 » by **pepe1991** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:59 am

eyriq wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.
Yup. Longshot to land top 6. Play-in will be hella fun, though.

It's only fun if you make it to playoffs :lol:

Skybox · Post #992 » by **Skybox** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:04 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.
Yup. Longshot to land top 6. Play-in will be hella fun, though.

It's only fun if you make it to playoffs

These projections are all with the team as presently (un)constructed...one significant move would make a huge difference in our ability to match offense while still generating excellent defense.

Skybox · Post #993 » by **Skybox** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:06 pm

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:The narrative is growing

Read on Twitter
?t=HdMrpj4GUJB5nNhkTo9hSg&s=19

What does this have to do with replacing Cole with Tyus?

Tyus starts with Suggs. Black plays with Cole.

Black is so big, he could be moved around situationally, as a defensive player primarily...while he's getting a handle on offense. Black and Suggs is a lottery ticket starting backcourt (for now).

Tyus is a big improvement, but still a small step. I really hope they aim higher.

VFX · Post #994 » by **VFX** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:52 pm

SOUL wrote:

Read on Twitter
?t=qYRsICSSgPwTp4rupo-geQ

This just in…

Magic projected to do absolutely nothing at the deadline.

drsd · Post #995 » by **drsd** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:58 pm

MagicMatic wrote:This just in…

Magic projected to do absolutely nothing at the deadline.

Let me live in my fantasy of Fultz and Okeke for Luke Kennard and Derrick Rose for another day. Please.

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #996 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:20 pm

thelead wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:Man it seems like Knicks and Cavs are going to be impossible to catch. Even the Pacers seem hard to catch with the way we play.

Its looking like we are a play-in team.

That was clear after they made their moves

anyone who didn't believe this is/was a massive homer

89Magicfan · Post #997 » by **89Magicfan** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:32 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
SOUL wrote:

Read on Twitter
?t=qYRsICSSgPwTp4rupo-geQ

This just in…

Magic projected to do absolutely nothing at the deadline.

So Parker is the new Otis?

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #998 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:49 pm

Skybox wrote:
thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:The narrative is growing

Read on Twitter
?t=HdMrpj4GUJB5nNhkTo9hSg&s=19

What does this have to do with replacing Cole with Tyus?

Tyus starts with Suggs. Black plays with Cole.

Black is so big, he could be moved around situationally, as a defensive player primarily...while he's getting a handle on offense. Black and Suggs is a lottery ticket starting backcourt (for now).

Tyus is a big improvement, but still a small step. I really hope they aim higher.

I'd love to make that deal for Tyus and I would immediately follow it up with Memphis.

Cole & Okeke for Kennard. Memphis then gets a solid backup PG for Ja on a decent contract for the next few years. Orlando adds a more consistent SG in Kennard who can snipe.

Tyus/Black
Suggs/Kennard

Not sure this would work Memphis also has Smart so think Cole might be overlap but who knows.

Post #999 » by **Knightro** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:40 pm

Hot take...

I think people are sleeping on and underrating Franz's overall improvement because his shooting efficiency is worse than last year.

I think his defense is better this year than it's ever been. His rebounding is way up.

I also think people are underestimating how impressive it is for a young player to increase their usage - which has led to quality gains in PPG and APG - while DECREASING turnovers at the same time.

TL:DR - Franz is improved across the board at pretty much everything except 3PT shooting and people don't realize it because of the 5% drop in 3PT shooting.

JoshuaPotter · Post #1000 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:14 pm

Knightro wrote:Hot take...

I think people are sleeping on and underrating Franz's overall improvement because his shooting efficiency is worse than last year.

I think his defense is better this year than it's ever been. His rebounding is way up.

I also think people are underestimating how impressive it is for a young player to increase their usage - which has led to quality gains in PPG and APG - while DECREASING turnovers at the same time.

TL:DR - Franz is improved across the board at pretty much everything except 3PT shooting and people don't realize it because of the 5% drop in 3PT shooting.

That is not very spicy at all.

We can say the same thing about Suggs + Paolo. Everything is headed in the correct direction. Our biggest issue right now is letting our draft picks grow organically combined with lack of on court veteran presence.