What to do with Bruce Brown

[Zeno]

Trade him after that game. Sell high.

I agree with selling but GMs know who Brown is. A good or bad week here isn’t changing anything.

Just in this game, Dalen Terry sprained his ankle. Gotta trade this week please.

I wish I could move up the deadline by a week but that’s just the risk you have to take if teams aren’t ready to meet your price. Cost of doing business if he gets hurt.

[ForeverTFC]

I agree with selling but GMs know who Brown is. A good or bad week here isn’t changing anything.

Just in this game, Dalen Terry sprained his ankle. Gotta trade this week please.

I wish I could move up the deadline by a week but that’s just the risk you have to take if teams aren’t ready to meet your price. Cost of doing business if he gets hurt.

Yeah, takes two to tango. We need some resolution on Murray and some indication on what the Nets and Pistons will do before things get going again. Fingers crossed both the Nets and Pistons decide they will not be sellers.

[Mr_NC]

Brown got that room at the St. Regis booked til Feb 8th then he checking out haha

[OakleyDokely]

Trade him after that game. Sell high.

Yeah I'm pretty sure this game isn't what's made him high on people's list.

Ya, I think playing in closing lineups on last years championship team probably impacts team decisions more than a mid week January game against the bulls.

[Rapsfan07]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

On top of that, we really need to be focused in on getting the best draft pick we can. I love Brown and if we were even just in Phase Two of this rebuild right now, I would absolutely love to keep him. But unfortunately that isn't the case and we need to turn him into assets for the future so we can accelerate this rebuild.

[Psubs]

I agree with selling but GMs know who Brown is. A good or bad week here isn’t changing anything.

Just in this game, Dalen Terry sprained his ankle. Gotta trade this week please.

I wish I could move up the deadline by a week but that’s just the risk you have to take if teams aren’t ready to meet your price. Cost of doing business if he gets hurt.

Knicks signed Taj Gibson to a 1-day to be backup while Randle is out.

Trading Fournier and Grimes for Brown also opens up a roster spot to keep Gibson for the rest of the season.

[Psubs]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

On top of that, we really need to be focused in on getting the best draft pick we can. I love Brown and if we were even just in Phase Two of this rebuild right now, I would absolutely love to keep him. But unfortunately that isn't the case and we need to turn him into assets for the future so we can accelerate this rebuild.

Knicks keep on winning. At least DiVincenzo putting up career high in points, solidifies him ahead of Grimes at SG, so Brown that can play some SF would be better.

[Psubs]

Uh oh, Knicks covet Tari Eason....

Send Grimes and Fournier for Brown. Send 1st pick and Achiuwa for Eason and 2nd pick?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

[Los_29]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

How have they had an unhealthy obsession with him?

[Johnny Bball]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

How have they had an unhealthy obsession with him?

Assuming Poeltl and Brown are gone, the only players I would want them to resign are Quickly, Nwora likely, Porter, and Trent. I think he's least likely to be traded, he seems to really like Toronto, but we will see.

[Ackshun]

"his value to other teams is way higher"
if all that's offered is late first round pick then his value to the raptors is way higher

100%. One of those guys that doesn’t require plays drawn up, but is effective because he’s always on the go. Always creating something for the other 4 guys that might not show up on the stat sheet. Good court vision. Quick as ****. Unselfish. Always bouncing. I love it.

I wish his outside shot was a little more consistent but otherwise, I’d consider him part of the core moving without a doubt.

Surely you've changed your minds now? Trade this guy now preferably.

Not at all. I love what he’s doing out there.

Unfortunately he’s a “nice to have”, not really a requirement at this stage of our re-tool or rebuild.

So yeah if we get a great offer, do it. Otherwise, he helps us stay competitive and our guys need that.

[YogurtProducer]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

How have they had an unhealthy obsession with him?

Because we kept a guy he does not like. AKA it is stupid, unhealthy, and a fireable offense.

[KrazyP]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

Bruce Brown's team option is June 29. His contract will be a very valuable trade asset to have in June if a trade cant be worked out between now and the trade deadline.

[Rapsfan07]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

Bruce Brown's team option is June 29. His contract will be a very valuable trade asset to have in June if a trade cant be worked out between now and the trade deadline.

Perhaps. But you're going to be getting less. The team trading for Brown is going to have him under contract for 1 playoff run instead of the 2 they could have had if we dealt him earlier. Not to mention, if we're dealing him in June, we're going to be taking back longer term salary which takes up capspace we could be using in the marketplace.

So yeah technically we could deal him in June but chances are the deal we're getting back isn't going to be as sweet as it could be now for more reasons than one.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

[Rapsfan07]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

Agreed. I like $30M/3yrs personally. Horton-Tucker and even Lonnie Walker will become free agents in the summer and while THT is probably going to get a little more than that, Walker is putting up almost identical numbers at around an eighth of what we're paying Trent this year. Might just go with him and call it a day.

[DreamTeam09]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

You're not getting Trent for less than MLE, and he's better than both Walker n THT. I agree you don't wanna over pay him, but he'll get 15mill from us if the MLE is like 13mill

[phanman]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

A 25yo SG hitting a career high 42.4% from deep isn't going to take a 7m AAV paycut on his next contract. He's going to be looking for at least 20m on the open market, and I sure as hell hope we aren't the ones that pay him it.

Kudos to him for stepping up once OG was traded: 13.7pts on 52% from deep with 6 attempts, but he is still one-dimensional player that really doesn't provide much else. For him to unlock his full potential, he'd need to be a focal point on offense and he just isn't good enough to fulfill that role. He has struggled in the role as bench gunner and a starting backcourt with IQ for the future is a recipe for disaster defensively.

[Rapsfan07]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

On top of that, we really need to be focused in on getting the best draft pick we can. I love Brown and if we were even just in Phase Two of this rebuild right now, I would absolutely love to keep him. But unfortunately that isn't the case and we need to turn him into assets for the future so we can accelerate this rebuild.

Knicks keep on winning. At least DiVincenzo putting up career high in points, solidifies him ahead of Grimes at SG, so Brown that can play some SF would be better.

Absolutely.