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[ShootingtheJ]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

I also love Eason. Does Whitmore's rise make Eason available? Maybe, but most likely Houston trades picks. They'd want Pat too, as they want shooter, and an active player to replace Olidipo's dead salary slot.

Houston doesn't have their own pick this year, so they want veterans to help them win now.

[JimmyTheKid]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39417736/after-unsettling-trade-damian-lillard-getting-comfortable-milwaukee-bucks

"[Rivers] emphasized like, go more to Dame," Antetokounmpo said Monday night. "When I have the ball, kick the ball ahead to Dame. Set more screens, roll out of the post, dribble handoffs -- he wants that more and we have to do it more. Because at the end of the day, when Dame has the ball in his hands and I'm being a threat as a roller, we can cause some damage."

Per Second Spectrum, the Bucks are averaging 1.18 points per direct pick when Antetokounmpo sets an on-ball screen for Lillard. That's the third-best efficiency among duos in the NBA. It's the volume of those plays that had become a question under Griffin. They are running about 9.9 on-ball screens per game, which ranks outside the top 25 among duos this season.

"It's been effective," Rivers said Monday night, "but it should be dominant, in my opinion."

<loudly clears throat>

At least Doc looks to be finally addressing it.

[Ron Swanson]

Can't say that the early returns on Doc haven't been refreshing, even if it's largely just voicing the obvious fixes and proverbial "low-hanging fruit" stuff. Maybe having time to evaluate the roster and watch this team from afar the first 3-months has actually benefitted and shaped his insight more than it would have had he been coaching from Day 1.

[-Jragon-]

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Dude is still 2nd in the entire league in post up frequency (yes, above Embiid, KAT, AD, Porzingis, Sengun, etc and any other talented big outside of Jokic), while doing it on bad efficiency. Among players with 50+ post ups this season, he’s dead last in pass % and 2nd to last in assist % out of post ups

We have a 122.8 DRTG in almost 600 minutes with Bobby on court WITH Giannis. And if we wanna blame Griffin/surrounding personnel for that, worth noting this is coming off last season where we had a 121.3 DRTG in over 500 minutes with Giannis/Bobby. He is 2nd percentile in defensive EPM, slightly worse than James Wiseman and good for 11th worst in the league lol.

I am begging Jon Horst to find a way to steal a defensive minded forward for him.

Horst the magician needs to somehow use Bobby to get Bruce Brown.

This is when the hypocrisy kicks in. You guys love Middleton who barely hustles or even looks interested on defense. His TS% is about the same as Bobby's but he's even worse because his TOV% is double from his fumbling. So those turnovers don't even turn into shots for us -- we're ignoring that as it relates to efficiency? That means in 10 KM possessions he's only even getting 8 shots and the other 2 are turnovers. So Bobby turning and shooting wherever he's standing makes him more efficient than Middleton because he's getting 9 shots in his 10 possessions.

Also Bobby is quicker and faster than Middleton for 1/3 of the price. If KM could cover 4s and 5s since his speed matches them better, then his value would be much greater... well we have Bobby that already does that and is more efficient offensively and you guys want to trade him and give away all of our big man depth for guards. I don't care if he DNPs the whole playoffs.. 1 injury to Brook or Giannis and he's likely starting. Trade someone else unless you know we're getting a startable 4/5. Better yet, Trade KM

[emunney]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

Couldn't be a better fit.

[aboveAverage]

Can't say that the early returns on Doc haven't been refreshing, even if it's largely just voicing the obvious fixes and proverbial "low-hanging fruit" stuff. Maybe having time to evaluate the roster and watch this team from afar the first 3-months has actually benefitted and shaped his insight more than it would have had he been coaching from Day 1.

I agree. I have to admit that I’ve never listened to a full Doc Rivers post game conference until after the Denver game. I was pleasantly surprised with how much detail and insight he gives when answering questions. He oozes basketball knowledge. The difference is so obvious compared to Griff. I was so used to Bud (and Kidd before him) giving canned, generic answers.

Not sure if that translates into results on the court, but I’m optimistic.

[mlloyd10]

This site is the worst at trying to put a picture on it....Can someone please explain on to put a picture on here

[mlloyd10]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

Adjusted it a little bit

Do you think Rockets would do Eason/Green/Oladipo for Bobby/Pat?

[smauss]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

Couldn't be a better fit.

Talk to me emunney! Sell me on Eason.....

[Ron Swanson]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

Adjusted it a little bit

Do you think Rockets would do Eason/Green/Oladipo for Bobby/Pat?

I'd do it and take on Dipo's dead money, but I'd still want Bullock in there for some extra wing depth. Then, try and flip Dipo plus the Portland pick for someone like Royce O'Neal.

[JimmyTheKid]

Can't say that the early returns on Doc haven't been refreshing, even if it's largely just voicing the obvious fixes and proverbial "low-hanging fruit" stuff. Maybe having time to evaluate the roster and watch this team from afar the first 3-months has actually benefitted and shaped his insight more than it would have had he been coaching from Day 1.

I agree. I have to admit that I’ve never listened to a full Doc Rivers post game conference until after the Denver game. I was pleasantly surprised with how much detail and insight he gives when answering questions. He oozes basketball knowledge. The difference is so obvious compared to Griff. I was so used to Bud (and Kidd before him) giving canned, generic answers.

Not sure if that translates into results on the court, but I’m optimistic.

Doc doesn't need to come in here with any "magic" or "secret formula" to drastically improve this team's title chances. Just common basketball sense. Thats it. I know some thought Jason Kidd would never, ever, ever, ever get another head coaching gig after being fired by the Bucks. But I'd put good money on Adrian Griffin, and his "third best winning % of all time," at pretty much any odds you care to give me, never sniffing another opportunity to lead an NBA team.

[Frank Nova]

Pat Marjon and Portlands 2nd for Eason and Landale works.

[msiris]

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Dude is still 2nd in the entire league in post up frequency (yes, above Embiid, KAT, AD, Porzingis, Sengun, etc and any other talented big outside of Jokic), while doing it on bad efficiency. Among players with 50+ post ups this season, he’s dead last in pass % and 2nd to last in assist % out of post ups

We have a 122.8 DRTG in almost 600 minutes with Bobby on court WITH Giannis. And if we wanna blame Griffin/surrounding personnel for that, worth noting this is coming off last season where we had a 121.3 DRTG in over 500 minutes with Giannis/Bobby. He is 2nd percentile in defensive EPM, slightly worse than James Wiseman and good for 11th worst in the league lol.

I am begging Jon Horst to find a way to steal a defensive minded forward for him.

Horst the magician needs to somehow use Bobby to get Bruce Brown.

This is when the hypocrisy kicks in. You guys love Middleton who barely hustles or even looks interested on defense. His TS% is about the same as Bobby's but he's even worse because his TOV% is double from his fumbling. So those turnovers don't even turn into shots for us -- we're ignoring that as it relates to efficiency? That means in 10 KM possessions he's only even getting 8 shots and the other 2 are turnovers. So Bobby turning and shooting wherever he's standing makes him more efficient than Middleton because he's getting 9 shots in his 10 possessions.

Also Bobby is quicker and faster than Middleton for 1/3 of the price. If KM could cover 4s and 5s since his speed matches them better, then his value would be much greater... well we have Bobby that already does that and is more efficient offensively and you guys want to trade him and give away all of our big man depth for guards. I don't care if he DNPs the whole playoffs.. 1 injury to Brook or Giannis and he's likely starting. Trade someone else unless you know we're getting a startable 4/5. Better yet, Trade KM

Both are very inconsistant. Both don't play D very well. If Giannis gets hurt we are screwed anyways. Bobby is not reliable in the playoffs.

[crkone]

This site is the worst at trying to put a picture on it....Can someone please explain on to put a picture on here

Copy the picture and paste on imgur.com homepage. Hover over three dots at top left of picture and click get share links. Click the BBCode Copy Link button. Paste link on realgm forum post and click submit.

[emunney]

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.

Couldn't be a better fit.

Talk to me emunney! Sell me on Eason.....

Extremely strong pound for pound, long arms, quick feet, powerful straight line driver, and developing as a shooter. Defensively, you can put him on the ball against most guys and expect him to make things difficult. Offensively, you can spot him up above the break or put him high post where he can hit a FT line jumper and get to the rim on one dribble if he has a quickness advantage, which he will against a lot of bigs. Really battles on the glass on both ends. Huge hands. Already a very useful player but has a high ceiling as well.

[-Jragon-]

Horst the magician needs to somehow use Bobby to get Bruce Brown.

This is when the hypocrisy kicks in. You guys love Middleton who barely hustles or even looks interested on defense. His TS% is about the same as Bobby's but he's even worse because his TOV% is double from his fumbling. So those turnovers don't even turn into shots for us -- we're ignoring that as it relates to efficiency? That means in 10 KM possessions he's only even getting 8 shots and the other 2 are turnovers. So Bobby turning and shooting wherever he's standing makes him more efficient than Middleton because he's getting 9 shots in his 10 possessions.

Also Bobby is quicker and faster than Middleton for 1/3 of the price. If KM could cover 4s and 5s since his speed matches them better, then his value would be much greater... well we have Bobby that already does that and is more efficient offensively and you guys want to trade him and give away all of our big man depth for guards. I don't care if he DNPs the whole playoffs.. 1 injury to Brook or Giannis and he's likely starting. Trade someone else unless you know we're getting a startable 4/5. Better yet, Trade KM

Both are very inconsistant. Both don't play D very well. If Giannis gets hurt we are screwed anyways. Bobby is not reliable in the playoffs.

That 1 extra turnover KM has per 10 possessions doesn't sound like much. But if you consider that a miss, that drops your shooting % by 10% and similar for his TS%.

We have to look at is as a shortage. How many big men are on the trading block compared to wings? There's a shortage and we're lucky to have 3 big skilled 4/5s at our disposal. If there aren't very many being traded, why are they going to suddenly be on the buyout market? Try to trade position for position unless we are operating from a surplus or logjam. We aren't. Robin and Thanasis aren't pushing Bobby for minutes. Bobby is literally a perfect 6th man.. didn't he already almost win that? If we didn't have Bobby we'd all be watching Mamu or Thanos stumble around and be begging Horst for someone like Bobby that can hold down the fort at those positions.

[-Jragon-]

Another huge advantage Bobby has over KM is his whole personality and attitude. Hey Bobby, we're going to need you to just shoot open 3s stay out of the paint - ok Doc got you. Hey Bobby we need you to set 100 picks per game for Dame and Beas -- ok.. Hey Bobby, we think Embiid is weak minded.. keep boxing him out harder and hard and see of he gets a tech.. ok boss.

Hey Khris, we're going to need you to stop dribbling around and shooting long fadeaway 2s... KM -- lol I don't listen to coaches, ask Bud

[-Jragon-]

Hey Khris, we're going to need you to come off the bench so Jae can start us off with defense and toughness next to Dame and Beas.. also the last 4 minutes will be Jae for the same reason. Your minutes will only drop by about 5 per game, I still need your points. Khris, "trade me now"

[jschligs]

Hey Khris, we're going to need you to come off the bench so Jae can start us off with defense and toughness next to Dame and Beas.. also the last 4 minutes will be Jae for the same reason. Your minutes will only drop by about 5 per game, I still need your points. Khris, "trade me now"

Where on Earth are you getting this Khris crap? Never once has he shown any inkling of being that type of person. You're just making stuff up now.

[mlloyd10]

Couldn't be a better fit.

Talk to me emunney! Sell me on Eason.....

Extremely strong pound for pound, long arms, quick feet, powerful straight line driver, and developing as a shooter. Defensively, you can put him on the ball against most guys and expect him to make things difficult. Offensively, you can spot him up above the break or put him high post where he can hit a FT line jumper and get to the rim on one dribble if he has a quickness advantage, which he will against a lot of bigs. Really battles on the glass on both ends. Huge hands. Already a very useful player but has a high ceiling as well.

Getting smoke for even suggesting Portis/Pat C for Eason/Green/Oladipo on the trade board