The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health

[aj174]

MVP is such a meaningless stat.

How many MVPs did Kawhi win? 0. Finals MVPs? 2

I remember in 2019 he played 60/82 games and wasn't in the regular season mvp conversation....he didn't care

Embiid should have that mindset. Nurse gotta load manage this man cause he's their only shot at making a meaningful playoff run

The only thing that'll further embiids legacy right now are finals MVPs not regular season MVPs

[bisme37]

I hope NBA fans feel some shame for the ducking allegations through out the season.

Eh. Multiple things can be true at the same time:

Embiid stays in games to pad his stats for his regular season MVP and scoring title chase; Embiid reguarly ducks playing in Denver and Embiid is prone to having knee problems.

Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

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The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

[TinmanZBoy]

I think the 65 game limit for awards is pretty reasonable. If a player can't play at least 65 games, the player isn't that great imo. But I am biased from watching two former Jazz men play. John Stockton played in every single game of the season 17 different seasons. Malone played in 80 games or above 18 different seasons (counting the 49 games played in the strike-shortened 50 game season), and he played in every single game of the season ten different seasons.

By the way, does the 65 game limit also apply to break season records like points per game and assists per game? I think it should.

I think it is reasonable that voters factor into games played… but the league enforces this rule is bullshxt… why don’t they set a set of rules to define the MVP, then you don’t need to vote… can’t believe people are for this… I am far from an Embiid fan, but this rule is bullxxxx

[levon]

I don't know about Embiid's previous injuries but Kuminga should be ejected and fined for that move.

I know it's part of the NBA culture to dive on the floor for loose balls, but it makes no sense to hand out flagrants when a jump shooter vaguely potentially lands on a defender's foot, while considering 250lb men cannonballing onto knee ligaments good basketball plays.

This rule needed to change a long time ago.

[iggymcfrack]

MVP is such a meaningless stat.

How many MVPs did Kawhi win? 0. Finals MVPs? 2

I remember in 2019 he played 60/82 games and wasn't in the regular season mvp conversation....he didn't care

Embiid should have that mindset. Nurse gotta load manage this man cause he's their only shot at making a meaningful playoff run

The only thing that'll further embiids legacy right now are finals MVPs not regular season MVPs

There’s a difference between load managing a healthy player and seeing a guy limping and falling all over the floor and leaving him in. I think it’s fine for Embiid to play 70-ish games if there’s nothing wrong with him, but leaving him in when he’s clearly injured is another matter entirely.

[ItsDanger]

It's amazing how in college games, the frequency of these kind of injuries is far less. Amazing.

[bisme37]

Sixers media pretty disgusted

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[bebopdeluxe]

Eh. Multiple things can be true at the same time:

Embiid stays in games to pad his stats for his regular season MVP and scoring title chase; Embiid reguarly ducks playing in Denver and Embiid is prone to having knee problems.

Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

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The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

[bebopdeluxe]

Can't say I am the biggest Draymond Green fan, but I think he has a point here.

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[ItsDanger]

If he gets hurt so often or has a chronic injury management issue, change your **** playing style and compensate. Might hurt the stats a little but the entire league shouldn't have to cater to his whims. Learn to protect your body out there.

[aj174]

Yeah this 65 game thing is stupid, it's really causing harm to the players.

Take Haliburton for example, he's close to not being at that threshold if he missed more games which means missing out on $40 million! This ain't right. All of us would try our best to play through that for that kind of money

[Chokic]

Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

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The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

[jokeboy86]

Sixers media pretty disgusted

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One poster brought it up in another thread but at some point someone in the national media will probably bring up the recent history of the Sixers and their training staff in dealing with their star players. I think it was dismissed with Fultz/Simmons because fans turned on them later but I imagine someone is going to ask “Whats going on over there?” eventually. Especially if Embiid is out for some time again.

[jokeboy86]

Can't say I am the biggest Draymond Green fan, but I think he has a point here.

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For someone with a big mouth, large platform, and no problems speaking on labor issues(including most recent CBA) you would think Draymond would get more involved with the NBPA. Not only is he not on the executive committee but he’s not even a player rep. But he sure likes to talk a lot.

[darkse1d]

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

Embiid had been crying wolf each time he was supposed to play in Denver, with the biggest one coming last year at the height of the MVP race. So he was called out for the right reasons. No one is gonna take you seriously when the previous 5 years you have refused to play in Denver by pretending to be injured.

If he was injured which obviously he was then the 76ers should have forced him to sit and not be influenced by anyone else.

[nikster]

Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

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The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

Yeah I was in the clown him group but clearly he was injured.

Still think it was dumb of the team not to include him on the injury report tho. 3 days after the Denver game he is still not close to 100%, how wasnt he even listed as probable? Don't think there would be much blow back if they announced him as doubtful/probable right after the Indiana game, we all saw the injury

[ItsDanger]

When so many injuries are given the appearance of something much more serious in severity yet aren't, one must assume they have a low pain tolerance level. Who didn't think Haliburton wasn't out 2 months after that hamstring injury? Yet back in 2 weeks. That's a low pain minor pull that many here probably experienced playing sports. I bet many didn't go through the whole drama routine when the injury occurred though.

[bebopdeluxe]

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

Embiid had been crying wolf each time he was supposed to play in Denver, with the biggest one coming last year at the height of the MVP race. So he was called out for the right reasons. No one is gonna take you seriously when the previous 5 years you have refused to play in Denver by pretending to be injured.

If he was injured which obviously he was then the 76ers should have forced him to sit and not be influenced by anyone else.

Two things can be right at the same time - the Sixers medical staff should have overruled Embiid last night and forced him to sit, and the Embiid haters can suck it for burying him Saturday.

The reason he probably wasn't on the injury list Saturday was that Embiid wanted to play, but was overruled by the med staff. Embiid is a prideful guy - most people who are at the pinnacle of their profession are. He knew he would get buried by everyone if he didn't play on Saturday, which was why he wasn't on the injury report. He didn't tell people he was hurt. He was going to give it a go. But the medical staff said no. Last night, Embiid had three days of everybody - including the national media - burying the crap out of him (Richard Jefferson calling him another name for a cat). The team was in a losing streak and were shorthanded...so he tried to go.

The medical staff could have - and should have - said no last night. But Embiid had enough of being buried.

By the way...still waiting for those apologies fron RealGM'ers who destroyed Embiid on Saturday. Lines are open.

[nikster]

Can't say I am the biggest Draymond Green fan, but I think he has a point here.

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Do we really think the 65 games was why he forced himself to play, and not the other noise and criticism? it's not like these awards will impact his future contracts so he has little reason to force himself for these. He also could have played less and still qualified.

And the look is bad but I don't think the injury by Kuminga was related to the pre existing injury

[bisme37]

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

Embiid had been crying wolf each time he was supposed to play in Denver, with the biggest one coming last year at the height of the MVP race. So he was called out for the right reasons. No one is gonna take you seriously when the previous 5 years you have refused to play in Denver by pretending to be injured.

If he was injured which obviously he was then the 76ers should have forced him to sit and not be influenced by anyone else.

Two things can be right at the same time - the Sixers medical staff should have overruled Embiid last night and forced him to sit, and the Embiid haters can suck it for burying him Saturday.

The reason he probably wasn't on the injury list Saturday was that Embiid wanted to play, but was overruled by the med staff. Embiid is a prideful guy - most people who are at the pinnacle of their profession are. He knew he would get buried by everyone if he didn't play on Saturday, which was why he wasn't on the injury report. He didn't tell people he was hurt. He was going to give it a go. But the medical staff said no. Last night, Embiid had three days of everybody - including the national media - burying the crap out of him (Richard Jefferson calling him another name for a cat). The team was in a losing streak and were shorthanded...so he tried to go.

The medical staff could have - and should have - said no last night. But Embiid had enough of being buried.

By the way...still waiting for those apologies fron RealGM'ers who destroyed Embiid on Saturday. Lines are open.

RGM, NBA fans in general and the media were big meanies and totally overreacted.

I feel like some of the reaction on RGM was in response to Embiid superfan(s) posting the entire day of that Denver game, bragging about how Joel was going to play and we couldn't call him a "ducker" anymore. So then when he didn't play a bunch of us jumped all over it and piled on, as it often goes on the internet.

Also, I mean, the Sixers (and Joel's) handling of this has been really confusing and led to suspicion from many.

But in retrospect it was pretty messed up imo. Apologies to Joel and Sixers fans. From me at least.