What to do with Bruce Brown

[Rapsfan07]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

You're not getting Trent for less than MLE, and he's better than both Walker n THT. I agree you don't wanna over pay him, but he'll get 15mill from us if the MLE is like 13mill

Then we should pass and grab one of the other two.

[KrazyP]

Imperative that we move him.

We already know what happens when you wait until the last minute to move guys. Can't afford to keep doing the same thing.

Bruce Brown's team option is June 29. His contract will be a very valuable trade asset to have in June if a trade cant be worked out between now and the trade deadline.

Perhaps. But you're going to be getting less. The team trading for Brown is going to have him under contract for 1 playoff run instead of the 2 they could have had if we dealt him earlier. Not to mention, if we're dealing him in June, we're going to be taking back longer term salary which takes up capspace we could be using in the marketplace.

So yeah technically we could deal him in June but chances are the deal we're getting back isn't going to be as sweet as it could be now for more reasons than one.

Hoarding cap space to potentially sign free agents is a direction the Raps could go but if thats the case, it will severely limit Bruce Brown's trade value to the point that anything you get back will be borderline worthless.

There just arent many contending teams in a position to deal for Brown and his $20mill salary without giving up long term salary in return. The only teams I can think of that could do this would be the Knicks (Fournier) and 76ers (lots of expiring fodder).....neither of which has any young prospect worth anything of value. Jaden Springer, Furkan Korkmaz and Quientin Grimes types just dont bring anything to the table that you wont be able to get out of Dick, Nwora going foward.

The 76ers cant trade a 1st and the Knicks likely are holding on to their 1sts for a bigger name like Dejonte Murray. Would the Raps accept expiring cap fodder and some 2nd rounders? Perhaps. Maybe a non-contending team looking for a glue guy could make a better offer -- Rockets?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

A 25yo SG hitting a career high 42.4% from deep isn't going to take a 7m AAV paycut on his next contract. He's going to be looking for at least 20m on the open market, and I sure as hell hope we aren't the ones that pay him it.

Kudos to him for stepping up once OG was traded: 13.7pts on 52% from deep with 6 attempts, but he is still one-dimensional player that really doesn't provide much else. For him to unlock his full potential, he'd need to be a focal point on offense and he just isn't good enough to fulfill that role. He has struggled in the role as bench gunner and a starting backcourt with IQ for the future is a recipe for disaster defensively.

And that's precisely why I've wanted him gone. Just putting what I believe his value is out there in terms of $$$. You can never have enough shooting for cheap but if he doesn't sign to a deal reflecting his actual value as a player to the team's overall efficiency it's a hard pass and it's not like we are in desperate need of shooters to round out a team that is going to compete for anything meaningful within the span of a 3 or 4 year contract. Gradey will provide a lot more than Gary in due time in terms of getting the team extra possessions while being an outlet and shooting just as well. Also provides the added dimension of being a more capable passer and can get to the rim better and crash the glass better too.

[agkagk]

Given his contract and plug n play reputation

He probably has the same trade value and more suitors in the off-season.


Get the right offer or hold him til the off season. In the meanwhile, tell him the doctors don’t like the results of his recent mri and to spend a month recovering in a hot tub .

I disagree. He has more value to a contender over 2 playoffs, not 1. There’s no benefit to holding onto him. We’d make the same mistake as Kyle, FVV, Siakam. Brown has no future with us and we’re rebuilding so we have to ship him out this deadline if we want the best return.

Agree. His best value is right now

Part of the interest is that he can retain some value at the draft.

Therefore it’s interesting for a team to acquire him and recover partially what you paid to acquire him at TDL.

But there is no way in my mind that his value is higher during off season

It’s for the playoffs that you want / need Bruce Brown.

We need to move him

Not trading him could be a major mistake and a loss opportunity IMO

We saw the movie last season of not trading guys. Cannot repeat that movie,

We need to move at least two players IMO and one of the two needs to be Brown. The other can be Boucher.

Well may be

Im just saying were in an excellent position and theres no reason to rush into a sub optimal trade.

The draft is now a 2 day affair. We have the first pick of day two, the 31st pick.

Assume our pick to san antonio converts

What if masai waits til the night before day two?

We have all our picks to trade.

24 hrs of teams staring at the 31st pick.

And more realistic potential trade suitors — cause, off season!

Brown and bouchers expiring =‘s around 34 million.

At this point brown can be combined with other players.

Lots of potential options available to masai in the off season.


Whats brown/boucher + picks worth in the off season?

Aka He should have similar trade value at the draft.

[RoteSchroder]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

I think he had a player option last season and opted in, right? He was probably looking for a long 20+ M contract and didn't get it, so he opted into another season to try and improve and get that bag.

If there was no market for him after two years of 17+ PPG, then I'm guessing after a down year, the maximum contract offer he's gonna get is around $13-15 M/yr. Not only that, he might opt to take a shorter contract so that he could try and play himself to a larger contract.

Under those circumstances, I wouldn't mind re-signing him to a 2-3 year contract for $13-15 M/year (last year would likely be a player option). Reasoning being that teams need multiple 3 point threats nowadays. A ton of good teams have players who can just bomb away. Second reason being that his trade value is low as an expiring. An extra year or two on a smaller contract means we might be able to get more assets in a trade.

On the other hand, we don't even know if GTJr wants to come back. He may be thinking that a change of scenery would increase his value. I think Detroit might be a threat to go after him as they need the 3 point shooting.

[agkagk]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

I think he had a player option last season and opted in, right? He was probably looking for a long 20+ M contract and didn't get it, so he opted into another season to try and improve and get that bag.

If there was no market for him after two years of 17+ PPG, then I'm guessing after a down year, the maximum contract offer he's gonna get is around $13-15 M/yr. Not only that, he might opt to take a shorter contract so that he could try and play himself to a larger contract.

Under those circumstances, I wouldn't mind re-signing him to a 2-3 year contract for $13-15 M/year (last year would likely be a player option). Reasoning being that teams need multiple 3 point threats nowadays. A ton of good teams have players who can just bomb away. Second reason being that his trade value is low as an expiring. An extra year or two on a smaller contract means we might be able to get more assets in a trade.

On the other hand, we don't even know if GTJr wants to come back. He may be thinking that a change of scenery would increase his value. I think Detroit might be a threat to go after him as they need the 3 point shooting.

Ya I could see detroit or charlotte targeting him as their starting shooting guard.

Might be tough to compete in that scenario

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Brown and GTJ are heating up so it'd be a great time to sell high.

If the offers for Brown aren't great then keep. I agree he's worth a 1st rounder with like a top 6 protection + young player who looks like they can hang in the league as rotation piece bare minimum. Brown has value and could even spark a bidding war.

GTJ must be moved period and if he keeps up the hot shooting heading towards the deadline could be very enticing for playoff contenders looking for bench shooting. Then again this organization has had an unhealthy obsession with him for a while. He could be shooting 50% from deep all year long and it probably wouldn't be enough to mitigate how passive of a player he is for someone who is likely going to want 20m a season.

I think he had a player option last season and opted in, right? He was probably looking for a long 20+ M contract and didn't get it, so he opted into another season to try and improve and get that bag.

If there was no market for him after two years of 17+ PPG, then I'm guessing after a down year, the maximum contract offer he's gonna get is around $13-15 M/yr. Not only that, he might opt to take a shorter contract so that he could try and play himself to a larger contract.

Under those circumstances, I wouldn't mind re-signing him to a 2-3 year contract for $13-15 M/year (last year would likely be a player option). Reasoning being that teams need multiple 3 point threats nowadays. A ton of good teams have players who can just bomb away. Second reason being that his trade value is low as an expiring. An extra year or two on a smaller contract means we might be able to get more assets in a trade.

On the other hand, we don't even know if GTJr wants to come back. He may be thinking that a change of scenery would increase his value. I think Detroit might be a threat to go after him as they need the 3 point shooting.

Ya I could see detroit or charlotte targeting him as their starting shooting guard.

Might be tough to compete in that scenario

Detroit is a really dumb franchise so I wouldn't be surprised. Marcus Sasser is legitimately the best guard on their team and he's rotting away on the bench most nights while Cunningham, Ivey and Hayes play like clowns.

[agkagk]

I think he had a player option last season and opted in, right? He was probably looking for a long 20+ M contract and didn't get it, so he opted into another season to try and improve and get that bag.

If there was no market for him after two years of 17+ PPG, then I'm guessing after a down year, the maximum contract offer he's gonna get is around $13-15 M/yr. Not only that, he might opt to take a shorter contract so that he could try and play himself to a larger contract.

Under those circumstances, I wouldn't mind re-signing him to a 2-3 year contract for $13-15 M/year (last year would likely be a player option). Reasoning being that teams need multiple 3 point threats nowadays. A ton of good teams have players who can just bomb away. Second reason being that his trade value is low as an expiring. An extra year or two on a smaller contract means we might be able to get more assets in a trade.

On the other hand, we don't even know if GTJr wants to come back. He may be thinking that a change of scenery would increase his value. I think Detroit might be a threat to go after him as they need the 3 point shooting.

Ya I could see detroit or charlotte targeting him as their starting shooting guard.

Might be tough to compete in that scenario

Detroit is a really dumb franchise so I wouldn't be surprised. Marcus Sasser is legitimately the best guard on their team and he's rotting away on the bench most nights while Cunningham, Ivey and Hayes play like clowns.

Garys a spot up shooter - he needs to play within the team to succeed.

An early season injury and babysitting malachai flynn can be blamed for the slow start. Hes balling from here on out.

Hes young, he avg like 18 last year and gets tonnes of 3s and steals.

His profile is more attractive then you think

[TorontoRapsFan]

I've gotten thirsty for the Knicks 'coveting' Tari Eason to flip him to Raps for Brown

[Ell Curry]

Today's guess at a trade.

Kings - Bruce Brown,
Raptors - Lyles, Vezenkov, Duarte, SAC 2029 lottery protected first

Kings follow up with something like Colby Jones or the POR 2025 2nd for a cheap backup big (Tillman?) to replace Lyles to complete their 8 man rotation of:

Sabonis - Center
Barnes - Murray
Murray - Brown
Huerter - Monk
Fox - Monk

and basically just play the top 7 guys starter minutes, maybe Mitchell gets 10 minutes at guard to harass the opponent's top guard.

Kings still have the option next season of trying to move Brown, Barnes or Huerter (or 2 of them together) along with their assets Colby Jones/Portland's 2025 2nd and their remaining 1sts (2025, 2027) for an upgrade since their pick will convey to Atlanta if they make the playoffs. That would still be enough to say turn Harrison Barnes into Jerami Grant, and if your stars at the 1 and 5 in Sabonis and Fox can't go deep in the playoffs with solid wings like Keegan Murray, Jerami Grant and Bruce Brown with Huerter and Monk providing scoring off the bench, well it's just not going to happen. Only need to find 15 minute backups for Sabonis and Fox and the MLE should take care of one of those.

We probably move Lyles for a 2nd and an expiring, even though he's Canadian, or maybe Philly would swap firsts (#28 for #22) and send us Korkmaz, which inches us up the draft.

[MessiahUjiri]

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The Warriors are stuck in a trifecta of bad situations: All time record payroll, aging roster, and sitting 12th in the West.


The Raptors make for perfect partners, if is the plan:

• Compete this year by creatively upgrading the roster and shedding salaries
• Start rebuilding this offseason, by letting Klay walk and cashing out on the final 2 years of Steph

This will need to be done via separate trades due to the CBA preventing Bruce Brown from being aggregated.


Wiggins, Podz, GPayton (injured), Moody, 2 ATL 2nds ('26 and 28)
for
BBrown, Schroder, TPE



Steph / CP3
BBrown / Schroder
Klay / Kuminga
Draymond / Trayce
Looney / Saric


^Per my rough math, the Warriors shed about ~$10M in salary+taxes this season, and also clear Wiggins and Payton off the books after this season. They simultaneously upgrade their roster for playoff readiness with a solid 10 man rotation.

After this season, let Klay walk. Renounce CP3. Cash out Steph.

Steph's $56M contract will be difficult to match for most teams, but Houston has the perfect match, in an overpaid Fred Van Vleet ($43M), along with a plethora of picks and youth. Rockets are also itching to make the playoffs, so Steph would be a perfect match. It's likely they can get a chefs platter of assets.

Next season, GSW will be able to trade the expiring contracts of Bruce Brown and Schroder. Their '24 pick would have conveyed to Portland, which means they have their '25 and '26 picks to do a quick 2-3 year tank and rebuild.


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The Raps do this to embrace their current rebuild, and accumulate assets. Hopefully Wiggins regains his mental strength after coming home. Give him the year off and embrace the tank for the 5th worst (the best we can do).


IQ / Podz
RJ / Moody / GP3
Wiggins / Dick
Scottie / Boucher
Poeltl / JPorter

^Plus 4 picks this draft, 2 extra 2nds from this trade, and Indy's '26 1st. That's a decent position

[JB7]

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The Warriors are stuck in a trifecta of bad situations: All time record payroll, aging roster, and sitting 12th in the West.


The Raptors make for perfect partners, if is the plan:

• Compete this year by creatively upgrading the roster and shedding salaries
• Start rebuilding this offseason, by letting Klay walk and cashing out on the final 2 years of Steph

This will need to be done via separate trades due to the CBA preventing Bruce Brown from being aggregated.


Wiggins, Podz, GPayton (injured), Moody, 2 ATL 2nds ('26 and 28)
for
BBrown, Schroder, TPE


Steph / CP3
BBrown / Schroder
Klay / Kuminga
Draymond / Trayce
Looney / Saric


^Per my rough math, the Warriors shed about ~$10M in salary+taxes this season, and also clear Wiggins and Payton off the books after this season. They simultaneously upgrade their roster for playoff readiness with a solid 10 man rotation.

After this season, let Klay walk. Renounce CP3. Cash out Steph.

Steph's $56M contract will be difficult to match for most teams, but Houston has the perfect match, in an overpaid Fred Van Vleet ($43M), along with a plethora of picks and youth. Rockets are also itching to make the playoffs, so Steph would be a perfect match. It's likely they can get a chefs platter of assets.

Next season, GSW will be able to trade the expiring contracts of Bruce Brown and Schroder. Their '24 pick would have conveyed to Portland, which means they have their '25 and '26 picks to do a quick 2-3 year tank and rebuild.


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The Raps do this to embrace their current rebuild, and accumulate assets. Hopefully Wiggins regains his mental strength after coming home. Give him the year off and embrace the tank for the 5th worst (the best we can do).


IQ / Podz
RJ / Moody / GP3
Wiggins / Dick
Scottie / Boucher
Poeltl / JPorter

^Plus 4 picks this draft, 2 extra 2nds from this trade, and Indy's '26 1st. That's a decent position

Or realistically GSW:
- trades Wiggins & FRP for Bruce Brown,
- takes a run at the playoffs this year,
- opts out of both Brown and CP3's deals after this season
- pays Klay something similar to Dray (to keep Curry happy),
- gets under the luxury tax for next year (saving $200M in payments), and
- frees up room to resign Kuminga and Moody two seasons from now.

And what the hell are the Bulls doing being a luxury tax paying team

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Keep him. You can only have so many 22-25 year olds on your team before there are diminishing returns.

[SpezNc]

I disagree. He has more value to a contender over 2 playoffs, not 1. There’s no benefit to holding onto him. We’d make the same mistake as Kyle, FVV, Siakam. Brown has no future with us and we’re rebuilding so we have to ship him out this deadline if we want the best return.

Agree. His best value is right now

Part of the interest is that he can retain some value at the draft.

Therefore it’s interesting for a team to acquire him and recover partially what you paid to acquire him at TDL.

But there is no way in my mind that his value is higher during off season

It’s for the playoffs that you want / need Bruce Brown.

We need to move him

Not trading him could be a major mistake and a loss opportunity IMO

We saw the movie last season of not trading guys. Cannot repeat that movie,

We need to move at least two players IMO and one of the two needs to be Brown. The other can be Boucher.

Well may be

Im just saying were in an excellent position and theres no reason to rush into a sub optimal trade.

The draft is now a 2 day affair. We have the first pick of day two, the 31st pick.

Assume our pick to san antonio converts

What if masai waits til the night before day two?

We have all our picks to trade.

24 hrs of teams staring at the 31st pick.

And more realistic potential trade suitors — cause, off season!

Brown and bouchers expiring =‘s around 34 million.

At this point brown can be combined with other players.

Lots of potential options available to masai in the off season.


Whats brown/boucher + picks worth in the off season?

Aka He should have similar trade value at the draft.

If you aggregate Brown salary + picks + prospect + swaps you can easily enter a sweepstake for a star.

This is why Brown is attractive at TDL for a team like the Knicks. He can increase their chance in the playoffs this season as well as position the Knicks in a good situation for another move at the draft.

I don’t think we should be in buy in mode at the draft. I think it’s too soon.

I think we need draft capital

I don’t think we can get the same deal this summer.

I truly think the time is now to trade him.

[SpezNc]

If Gary is willing to take something like 3 yrs 33m which would pay him close to Divincenzo money except for 3 not 4 years I'll keep him otherwise sayonara. The contract just needs to reflect what he actually brings to the table. In years past due to being a starter combined with his age and people believing he could actually grow his game we were thinking it would take 20-25m AAV to lock the guy up but if the FO and his agent can come to terms that he's just a 25 min rotation piece at best who is pretty garbage when the shot isn't falling (and outside of his recent shooting has mostly hovered around NBA average as a 3 point shooter), then perhaps a reasonable deal can be reached. No money should be paid "in good faith" that Gary all of a sudden will unlock new elements to his game.

A 25yo SG hitting a career high 42.4% from deep isn't going to take a 7m AAV paycut on his next contract. He's going to be looking for at least 20m on the open market, and I sure as hell hope we aren't the ones that pay him it.

Kudos to him for stepping up once OG was traded: 13.7pts on 52% from deep with 6 attempts, but he is still one-dimensional player that really doesn't provide much else. For him to unlock his full potential, he'd need to be a focal point on offense and he just isn't good enough to fulfill that role. He has struggled in the role as bench gunner and a starting backcourt with IQ for the future is a recipe for disaster defensively.

And that's precisely why I've wanted him gone. Just putting what I believe his value is out there in terms of $$$. You can never have enough shooting for cheap but if he doesn't sign to a deal reflecting his actual value as a player to the team's overall efficiency it's a hard pass and it's not like we are in desperate need of shooters to round out a team that is going to compete for anything meaningful within the span of a 3 or 4 year contract. Gradey will provide a lot more than Gary in due time in terms of getting the team extra possessions while being an outlet and shooting just as well. Also provides the added dimension of being a more capable passer and can get to the rim better and crash the glass better too.

Both Knicks and Lakers ans maybe other team wanted Bruce Brown of MLE.

In the end the Pacers gave him 22 millions

I am willing to take Trent Back but he need a drop in salary for me to wish that is back

A player can put his price
An organization can also put his limit

Very curious to see where he lands

[agkagk]

Agree. His best value is right now

Part of the interest is that he can retain some value at the draft.

Therefore it’s interesting for a team to acquire him and recover partially what you paid to acquire him at TDL.

But there is no way in my mind that his value is higher during off season

It’s for the playoffs that you want / need Bruce Brown.

We need to move him

Not trading him could be a major mistake and a loss opportunity IMO

We saw the movie last season of not trading guys. Cannot repeat that movie,

We need to move at least two players IMO and one of the two needs to be Brown. The other can be Boucher.

Well may be

Im just saying were in an excellent position and theres no reason to rush into a sub optimal trade.

The draft is now a 2 day affair. We have the first pick of day two, the 31st pick.

Assume our pick to san antonio converts

What if masai waits til the night before day two?

We have all our picks to trade.

24 hrs of teams staring at the 31st pick.

And more realistic potential trade suitors — cause, off season!

Brown and bouchers expiring =‘s around 34 million.

At this point brown can be combined with other players.

Lots of potential options available to masai in the off season.


Whats brown/boucher + picks worth in the off season?

Aka He should have similar trade value at the draft.

If you aggregate Brown salary + picks + prospect + swaps you can easily enter a sweepstake for a star.

This is why Brown is attractive at TDL for a team like the Knicks. He can increase their chance in the playoffs this season as well as position the Knicks in a good situation for another move at the draft.

I don’t think we should be in buy in mode at the draft. I think it’s too soon.

I think we need draft capital

I don’t think we can get the same deal this summer.

I truly think the time is now to trade him.

We have potentially 4 1sts if you count the 31st

Our core 3 BBQ

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora

Thats a lot young depth

Masai’s made it clear were not interested in rebuilding (although we do look very tanky atm).

Im kind of not seeing how adding potentially the 5th pick helps the development of any of our guys.

Like were committed to giving quickley 25+ a year

Im more interested in seeing us do everything possible to make quick barrett and scottie perennial all stars

Anyways, im pretty sure were all in on scottie being a legit top 10 player and building around that principle ya know

If a star players out there that makes sense (doesnt look good atm), go get him, why wait four years to develop a prospect at the expense of bbq’s development

[Appostis]

Well may be

Im just saying were in an excellent position and theres no reason to rush into a sub optimal trade.

The draft is now a 2 day affair. We have the first pick of day two, the 31st pick.

Assume our pick to san antonio converts

What if masai waits til the night before day two?

We have all our picks to trade.

24 hrs of teams staring at the 31st pick.

And more realistic potential trade suitors — cause, off season!

Brown and bouchers expiring =‘s around 34 million.

At this point brown can be combined with other players.

Lots of potential options available to masai in the off season.


Whats brown/boucher + picks worth in the off season?

Aka He should have similar trade value at the draft.

If you aggregate Brown salary + picks + prospect + swaps you can easily enter a sweepstake for a star.

This is why Brown is attractive at TDL for a team like the Knicks. He can increase their chance in the playoffs this season as well as position the Knicks in a good situation for another move at the draft.

I don’t think we should be in buy in mode at the draft. I think it’s too soon.

I think we need draft capital

I don’t think we can get the same deal this summer.

I truly think the time is now to trade him.

We have potentially 4 1sts if you count the 31st

Our core 3 BBQ

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora

Thats a lot young depth

Masai’s made it clear were not interested in rebuilding (although we do look very tanky atm).

Im kind of not seeing how adding potentially the 5th pick helps the development of any of our guys.

Like were committed to giving quickley 25+ a year

Im more interested in seeing us do everything possible to make quick barrett and scottie perennial all stars

Anyways, im pretty sure were all in on scottie being a legit top 10 player and building around that principle ya know

If a star players out there that makes sense (doesnt look good atm), go get him, why wait four years to develop a prospect at the expense of bbq’s development

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora...

Read that list. Maybe 2-3 of those guys have any future with the team. They don't have the young assets with the upside needed

How you think otherwise is .

[agkagk]

If you aggregate Brown salary + picks + prospect + swaps you can easily enter a sweepstake for a star.

This is why Brown is attractive at TDL for a team like the Knicks. He can increase their chance in the playoffs this season as well as position the Knicks in a good situation for another move at the draft.

I don’t think we should be in buy in mode at the draft. I think it’s too soon.

I think we need draft capital

I don’t think we can get the same deal this summer.

I truly think the time is now to trade him.

We have potentially 4 1sts if you count the 31st

Our core 3 BBQ

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora

Thats a lot young depth

Masai’s made it clear were not interested in rebuilding (although we do look very tanky atm).

Im kind of not seeing how adding potentially the 5th pick helps the development of any of our guys.

Like were committed to giving quickley 25+ a year

Im more interested in seeing us do everything possible to make quick barrett and scottie perennial all stars

Anyways, im pretty sure were all in on scottie being a legit top 10 player and building around that principle ya know

If a star players out there that makes sense (doesnt look good atm), go get him, why wait four years to develop a prospect at the expense of bbq’s development

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora...

Read that list. Maybe 2-3 of those guys have any future with the team. They don't have the young assets with the upside needed

How you think otherwise is .

Porter looks like our back up center
Dicks going to play
Nwora apparently always could

Plus up to 4 picks.

Thats maybe 7 projects on the bench already

If you can package brown, salary, a first this year plus a future or first or 2, for say, jimmy butler — why not! Lol

Ya theres no hail mary star available atm.

But why rush to move brown?

What if we do land the 5th pick?

Whats brown/boucher/5th plus futures net us in the offseason?

Thats a lot of assets to have available for trade all at the same time.

Its a hail mary, but you add jimmy butler to our starting 5 and were a top 3 team in the east hopefully with a young sustainable pipeline.

Just sayin, no reason to race to trade brown this deadline.

Tank and reload seems like it might be masai’s preferred course of action.

[Appostis]

We have potentially 4 1sts if you count the 31st

Our core 3 BBQ

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora

Thats a lot young depth

Masai’s made it clear were not interested in rebuilding (although we do look very tanky atm).

Im kind of not seeing how adding potentially the 5th pick helps the development of any of our guys.

Like were committed to giving quickley 25+ a year

Im more interested in seeing us do everything possible to make quick barrett and scottie perennial all stars

Anyways, im pretty sure were all in on scottie being a legit top 10 player and building around that principle ya know

If a star players out there that makes sense (doesnt look good atm), go get him, why wait four years to develop a prospect at the expense of bbq’s development

Lewis jr porter dick mcdaniels nwora...

Read that list. Maybe 2-3 of those guys have any future with the team. They don't have the young assets with the upside needed

How you think otherwise is .

Porter looks like our back up center
Dicks going to play
Nwora apparently always could

Plus up to 4 picks.

Thats maybe 7 projects on the bench already

If you can package brown, salary, a first this year plus a future or first or 2, for say, jimmy butler — why not! Lol

Ya theres no hail mary star available atm.

But why rush to move brown?

What if we do land the 5th pick?

Whats brown/boucher/5th plus futures net us in the offseason?

Thats a lot of assets to have available for trade all at the same time.

Its a hail mary, but you add jimmy butler to our starting 5 and were a top 3 team in the east hopefully with a young sustainable pipeline.

Just sayin, no reason to race to trade brown this deadline.

Tank and reload seems like it might be masai’s preferred course of action.

Not a hard concept of why moving Brown should be plan A.. he has the most value this off season due to a possible 2 seasons control and the added bonus of having a team option in case the tax bill hits those contenders hard.

Add in the possibility of falling to 5th and potentially having 2 top 6 picks to rebuild around....Brown is a good vet, he could easily add a few wins which could mean a world of difference.

If the deals aren't out there, sure keep him and look at the offseason but to ask why trading him this offseason is not the preferred course if action...you just don't seem to be paying attention *shrug*

[2019nbachamps]

If the offers for Brown aren’t good now then they won’t improve in the summer. We’ve already been through this with Kyle, OG, Pascal…

We’re gonna trade him by the deadline. At that point we’ll get a clearer picture of the actual return for the Pascal trade.