PG Portland: Loss

[-Jragon-]

In the presser Doc said they were anticipating a foul and liked Giannis’s chances to get an oreb after a missed FT…so yeah…time for me to head out.

This better be a political cover up answer because geez that's dumb.

[MickeyDavis]

Have you guys even looked at Jrue's numbers and watched how he's played this year, like, at all? Bail on Dame? What kind of reactionary bull **** is going on here?

[PG Graveyard]

Jrue would have pooped himself in the playoffs again and you’d all start crying about how they didn’t trade him

Maybe. I think most people were very cool with trading him. Just would have preferred to not get suckered into Dame Time which is probably the end of our competitive window

[msiris]

Dame just aint that guy

He could be but he is a 3 pt chucker Some attempts are really bad. He should foucusmore on driving the lane and becoming more efficient. I don't see it happen.

He's Dame f'ing Lillard of course he's going to shoot a bunch of 3s and some will be of the yolo variety. That's who he is as a player. He's also bad defensively, that shouldn't be some shocking development. Now I do think it's fair to criticize some of his bad effort related habits. But again it's not like he's ever been a dude who busts his ass back in transition D.

I was in favor of the trade because I thought they needed a high level end of game scorer in the playoffs. Hopefully he proves me right come playoff time. But I also was saying before Dame was traded that he was a riskier trade target than most people wanted to admit and there were aspects of his game that got ignored a bit in Portland because everyone liked and kind of felt sorry for him.

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So maybe he is overrated because he never won anything?????

[fansinceforever]

He could be but he is a 3 pt chucker Some attempts are really bad. He should foucusmore on driving the lane and becoming more efficient. I don't see it happen.

He's Dame f'ing Lillard of course he's going to shoot a bunch of 3s and some will be of the yolo variety. That's who he is as a player. He's also bad defensively, that shouldn't be some shocking development. Now I do think it's fair to criticize some of his bad effort related habits. But again it's not like he's ever been a dude who busts his ass back in transition D.

I was in favor of the trade because I thought they needed a high level end of game scorer in the playoffs. Hopefully he proves me right come playoff time. But I also was saying before Dame was traded that he was a riskier trade target than most people wanted to admit and there were aspects of his game that got ignored a bit in Portland because everyone liked and kind of felt sorry for him.

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So maybe he is overrated because he never won anything?????

Yeah, everybody knows Him and CJ McCollum is a championship core.

[TroyD92]

Jrue would have pooped himself in the playoffs again and you’d all start crying about how they didn’t trade him

Maybe. I think most people were very cool with trading him. Just would have preferred to not get suckered into Dame Time which is probably the end of our competitive window

No offense but the window was already shut with the current iteration. Dame gives you hope you can extend it a year or two. This team is old and has been old for a while now.

[RubberSoul]

The primary thing we should be pissed about is not closing the deal in either 18-19 or 19-20. Granted Covid killed 19-20 but we were legit the best team in the league those years and we blew it. It seems the window is currently very close to being slammed shut not sure how Horst can keep it propped open we have no assets left. Just aging slow old players.


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[JayMKE]

Bucks choose to get older this offseason, there needs to be a new direction it was a mistake

[TroyD92]

Horst is a clown btw. I know you all like defending this guy, but his gross miss-use of assets on the margins is what’s really killing this team. He made a couple of big trades (Jrue, Dame) then he gets rid of all his future 2nd rounds picks for Jae Crowder. Doesn’t cash in on career years from role players like Bobby and Pat. Terrible drafting, clown show of a coaching search. This guy stinks

[-Jragon-]

Get Giannis to watch hours of Malone and Amare running the pick and roll. The problem is that the roll isn't always the same angle or speed and someone new at that will take awhile to understand. It's not just running like he does on the KM plays. Basically you have to just find space, face the dribbler, and find an angle for the passer to hit you. Sometimes you can go quick to the hoop but sometimes it's slow floating around the paint or just shuffle away from all the action, sometimes you have to stop if another defender is rotating and attack on 1 dribble or shoot an open short jumper/bank shot. If the dribbler gets in the lane fast you have to widen out away from him or trail if there's too much congestion. Sometimes you change speeds to confuse the defense. Basically find space.. it's more of an art than an X/O play which is why he doesn't get it yet; he needs practice reps against defenders chairs won't cut it for this. They should be running it in games on 40-60% of plays because it will be almost unstoppable.. a team's best chance is pack the paint and then corners will be wide open..

https://youtu.be/f4G_xWJ8TuU?si=9tbbrv_VJ0hO0zTy

https://youtu.be/5XLvqH9qoik?si=5MwnQ3f4Ligk9Ts-

[WeekapaugGroove]

He could be but he is a 3 pt chucker Some attempts are really bad. He should foucusmore on driving the lane and becoming more efficient. I don't see it happen.

He's Dame f'ing Lillard of course he's going to shoot a bunch of 3s and some will be of the yolo variety. That's who he is as a player. He's also bad defensively, that shouldn't be some shocking development. Now I do think it's fair to criticize some of his bad effort related habits. But again it's not like he's ever been a dude who busts his ass back in transition D.

I was in favor of the trade because I thought they needed a high level end of game scorer in the playoffs. Hopefully he proves me right come playoff time. But I also was saying before Dame was traded that he was a riskier trade target than most people wanted to admit and there were aspects of his game that got ignored a bit in Portland because everyone liked and kind of felt sorry for him.

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So maybe he is overrated because he never won anything?????

I don't know if Id exactly say overrated because he put up some insane offensive numbers.

More I think some of the defects of his game were ignored by media and fans because they liked him for being a loyal guy to a small market. I also think because no one really took Portland seriously as a contender the media never dove as deep into those faults. Players on actual contenders get nit picked more.

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[JayMKE]

Dame isn't Steph Curry and never was close, guys like that historically don't win championships.

[-Jragon-]

Someone on FB said that Brook shot that shot because he was still mad Dame shot that long game winner against the Kings instead of him (remember his weird initial body language? which to me it was fatigue or shock)

LOL!

[BroncoBuck]

The Brook signing has been infuriating. It’s just going to be so hard to beat Boston (if we face them) in a best of 7 with him on the floor. I don’t think the Bucks will trade him, but him and Bobby are the two that I’d want gone the most.

Ex players always talk about how difficult it is to play knowing you’re on the block and that’s exactly what I see from Bobby every night. He’s been the guy most likely to be dealt all season and he’s played like it. He had a good run here, but man I can’t wait to see him get dealt.

Pat just looks like a product of Bud. His athleticism looks like it declined, but he just looks completely out of rhythm on the floor.

Crowder is still semi-washed up

Jackson was playing like garbage for weeks and Prunty immediately benched him. Doc seems to have followed suit. I get he’s a rookie and people would rather see younger trash than older trash, but he might be better off going to Oshkosh for a while.

Payne is who we thought he was.

Payne is not at all who I thought he was. I thought he could contribute a little something, at least on offense. I did not think he was near this useless.

He fell out of favor in Phoenix last year. Pretty much what you’d expect from a guy they kicked to the curb.

[MickeyDavis]

Bucks choose to get older this offseason, there needs to be a new direction it was a mistake

Well Dame is actually younger than Jrue. And moving on from Jrue was the absolute right choice. As for Khris and Brook, we couldn't use their salaries to sign other free agents. Perhaps sign and trades could have happened. Perhaps Houston's interest in Brook was legit, who knows.

[msiris]

Bucks luck that Dame hasn't shot 3s this bad in like 10 years. Last night Dame had 23 shots. Gannis had 16. Sorry guy but Giannis should always have more every stinking game.

[brewbucks]

The primary thing we should be pissed about is not closing the deal in either 18-19 or 19-20. Granted Covid killed 19-20 but we were legit the best team in the league those years and we blew it. It seems the window is currently very close to being slammed shut not sure how Horst can keep it propped open we have no assets left. Just aging slow old players.


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2018-19 was our year. It will forever haunt me, that was our best team.

[emunney]

Every day we choose to get older. Beats the alternative.

[Siefer]

Love Jrue, he's still a good defender, and a great team guy, but he's declined significantly. I think a lot of folks have a mental image of his 20/21 season when he was still near his apex.

[msiris]

Bucks choose to get older this offseason, there needs to be a new direction it was a mistake

Well Dame is actually younger than Jrue. And moving on from Jrue was the absolute right choice. As for Khris and Brook, we couldn't use their salaries to sign other free agents. Perhaps sign and trades could have happened. Perhaps Houston's interest in Brook was legit, who knows.

You could have moved on from Mids instead.