Not a Bridges but a Ingram to Houston

Wolveswin · Post #1 » by **Wolveswin** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 5:07 pm

Hawks Trade: Murray + Capela + Matthews
FOR
Amen + JVal (expiring) + Dipo (expiring)
Why= Amen next to Trae could be exciting.

Pelicans Trade: Ingram + JVal + Filler (Alvarado?)
FOR
Murray + Capela + Jeff Green
Why= new backcourt and defense next to Zion.
Capela
Zion
Murphy
McCollum
Murray

Rockets Trade: Amen + Dipo + Jeff
FOR
Ingram + Matthews + Pels Filler
Why= pivot from crazy Bridges offers to Ingram.

***Maybe some picks are due to exchange here, leave that up to discussion.

Hoppy1 · Post #2 » by **Hoppy1** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 6:01 pm

I would prefer to have Ingram over Bridges. And for me it is not close.

K_chile22 · Post #3 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:12 pm

I'd rather do picks than Amen, who's a pretty rough fit around trae anyways. Idk if there's something workable that way

Wolveswin · Post #4 » by **Wolveswin** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:23 pm

K_chile22 wrote:I'd rather do picks than Amen, who's a pretty rough fit around trae anyways. Idk if there's something workable that way

I don’t know - Trae needs a defensive specialist. Amen is that. If he can learn to shoot like Dort, Hawks have their backcourt.

Post #5 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:32 pm

Absent Ingram going to the Pels and telling them he has no interest in extending AND that he wants a trade right now, there's no reason for the Pels to consider anything like this.

Mrakar · Post #6 » by **Mrakar** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:37 pm

Wolveswin wrote:Hawks Trade: Murray + Capela + Matthews
FOR
Amen + JVal (expiring) + Dipo (expiring)
Why= Amen next to Trae could be exciting.

Pelicans Trade: Ingram + JVal + Filler (Alvarado?)
FOR
Murray + Capela + Jeff Green
Why= new backcourt and defense next to Zion.
Capela
Zion
Murphy
McCollum
Murray

Rockets Trade: Amen + Dipo + Jeff
FOR
Ingram + Matthews + Pels Filler
Why= pivot from crazy Bridges offers to Ingram.

***Maybe some picks are due to exchange here, leave that up to discussion.

Maybe some picks? Ingram is better then Murray, JVal then Capela and Alvarado then Jeff Green, hell yea there are some picks due there.

Value aside i don't see That Pels lineup working out, outside Capela no1 plays above average defense(Murray is overrated on that side of the ball) and having 2 non shooters on the floor kills it on offense.
Pels current starting lineup is not that great, but even that lineup is by far better then this one.

Wolveswin · Post #7 » by **Wolveswin** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:41 pm

Mrakar wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Hawks Trade: Murray + Capela + Matthews
FOR
Amen + JVal (expiring) + Dipo (expiring)
Why= Amen next to Trae could be exciting.

Pelicans Trade: Ingram + JVal + Filler (Alvarado?)
FOR
Murray + Capela + Jeff Green
Why= new backcourt and defense next to Zion.
Capela
Zion
Murphy
McCollum
Murray

Rockets Trade: Amen + Dipo + Jeff
FOR
Ingram + Matthews + Pels Filler
Why= pivot from crazy Bridges offers to Ingram.

***Maybe some picks are due to exchange here, leave that up to discussion.

Maybe some picks? Ingram is better then Murray, JVal then Capela and Alvarado then Jeff Green, hell yea there are some picks due there.

Value aside i don't see That Pels lineup working out, outside Capela no1 plays above average defense(Murray is overrated on that side of the ball) and having 2 non shooters on the floor kills it on offense.
Pels current starting lineup is not that great, but even that lineup is by far better then this one.

I have Capela > JVal

Murray is better D than Ingram and Capela better D than JVal…so not sure how defense is in question.

Shooters come off then bench. Including lineups when no center is needed.

Mrakar · Post #8 » by **Mrakar** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:47 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Mrakar wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Hawks Trade: Murray + Capela + Matthews
FOR
Amen + JVal (expiring) + Dipo (expiring)
Why= Amen next to Trae could be exciting.

Pelicans Trade: Ingram + JVal + Filler (Alvarado?)
FOR
Murray + Capela + Jeff Green
Why= new backcourt and defense next to Zion.
Capela
Zion
Murphy
McCollum
Murray

Rockets Trade: Amen + Dipo + Jeff
FOR
Ingram + Matthews + Pels Filler
Why= pivot from crazy Bridges offers to Ingram.

***Maybe some picks are due to exchange here, leave that up to discussion.

Maybe some picks? Ingram is better then Murray, JVal then Capela and Alvarado then Jeff Green, hell yea there are some picks due there.

Value aside i don't see That Pels lineup working out, outside Capela no1 plays above average defense(Murray is overrated on that side of the ball) and having 2 non shooters on the floor kills it on offense.
Pels current starting lineup is not that great, but even that lineup is by far better then this one.

I have Capela > JVal

Murray is better D than Ingram and Capela better D than JVal…so not sure how defense is in question.

Shooters come off then bench. Including lineups when no center is needed.

This is not 2018, Capela is washed and Dejonte stopped playing defense couple years ago. He has the tools but not the will and brains for it.

Ingram also has tools but not brains and will, to play the defense. And you put Jones on the bench to add Murphy because shooting would otherwise be terrible and trust me downgrade from Jones to Murphy on defense is greater then upgrade from 2024 Capela to Valanciunas.

BadWolf · Post #9 » by **BadWolf** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 7:56 pm

Wouldn't Hawks just take Ingram?

ThatBoyNick · Post #10 » by **ThatBoyNick** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 8:04 pm

BadWolf wrote:Wouldn't Hawks just take Ingram?

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Zion might weigh more then Trae and Ingram combined and that’s just wild

The OP is an interesting mix that doesn’t quite hit the spot for either ATL or NO. Houston obviously gets the best end of the stick and would need to add value, but I don’t love Ingrams fit for the value he’d warrant.

Wolveswin · Post #11 » by **Wolveswin** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 8:33 pm

BadWolf wrote:Wouldn't Hawks just take Ingram?

Play him at SG? Trae and Ingram backcourt?

jayjaysee · Post #12 » by **jayjaysee** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 9:08 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
BadWolf wrote:Wouldn't Hawks just take Ingram?

Play him at SG? Trae and Ingram backcourt?

Pay Chicago’s asking price for Caruso atp would be my suggestion..

jayjaysee · Post #13 » by **jayjaysee** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 9:17 pm

I don’t see NOP doing this. I think Capela/Jonas is still a worth a late first and NOP should figure out a way to do that. But the Murray/Ingram swap hurts more than the other helps. And don’t really know how much it costs to fix it.

For Houston, specifically.. I’d probably try to get Jalen+whatever for Ingram done and keep Amen out of it..

ADMVP · Post #14 » by **ADMVP** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 9:30 pm

jayjaysee wrote:I don’t see NOP doing this. I think Capela/Jonas is still a worth a late first and NOP should figure out a way to do that. But the Murray/Ingram swap hurts more than the other helps. And don’t really know how much it costs to fix it.

For Houston, specifically.. I’d probably try to get Jalen+whatever for Ingram done and keep Amen out of it..

How is this different from Zion and Adams? And why do we have to pay for it?