Mikal Bridges to Houston

[HotelVitale]

Well I don't have a dog in the fight really, not a fan from either side. But I'd think the Nets would have to have their picks back plus 1, and they like Eason. Oladipo and Tate are really just filler.

I don’t either, but I think the situation here isn’t ‘what’s Mikal worth in a vacuum?’ but more ‘are the Nets in a weird enough spot that they’d make a tough trade to give them some clear direction?’ I don’t think the answer’s clear, but I think asking for 3-4 1sts, two swaps, Eason, Tate, and filler is probably tantamount to saying you just don’t want to trade Mikal.

The owner has said that he’s not interested in tanking/rebuilding & the Nets have consistently said that Bridges is not available

Personally would trade him if the offer warranted it but all indications are that they won’t

Keep in mind that Nets have plenty of assets with which to strengthen squad anyway

Yeah and I don't think that's wrong necessarily. It does mean not starting a full rebuild now, but those are so spotty and unpredictable that I don't think they have to rush into one now at top speed. They're a decent team who could easily make the PO this year and next, and their best players are young enough and under contract for long enough that there's no need to launch into tank mode (like there is for most teams woh are treadmilling with stars about to ask out). After a few more years, they'll owe fewer picks (and be closer to having the run of PHX etc picks incoming) and can still start a rebuild after that if they need to and if they haven't found some ways to get out of treadmill land.

And practically speaking, by that time it should be obvious to everyone--ownership included--that there aren't other options.

[K_chile22]

2025: swap rights. Could go a few ways. If the Nets can flip Simmons + PHX picks then it's not out of the question the Nets and Rockets have a similar record. Maybe no swap occurs (or it's only a few slots)

It's not a straight swap with houston, first okc has the right to swap with either Houston (top ten protected) or LAC before Houston's rights to swap with BKN comes into play, so very, very possible its okc's pick which would probably be very late

The pick swap with OKC happened in the Chris Paul for Westbrook trade right? So it's older than the brooklyn swap with houston. So I think you could just undo the brooklyn/houston element of it and leave the houston/OKC part alone.

I don't know for sure if that can be done but I don't see why not.

I'm talking about the value, they were saying Houston and BKN could be close in standings so the swap has little value, but the swap could be OKCs to BKN which could have a lot of value

[Decipher]

I don’t either, but I think the situation here isn’t ‘what’s Mikal worth in a vacuum?’ but more ‘are the Nets in a weird enough spot that they’d make a tough trade to give them some clear direction?’ I don’t think the answer’s clear, but I think asking for 3-4 1sts, two swaps, Eason, Tate, and filler is probably tantamount to saying you just don’t want to trade Mikal.

The owner has said that he’s not interested in tanking/rebuilding & the Nets have consistently said that Bridges is not available

Personally would trade him if the offer warranted it but all indications are that they won’t

Keep in mind that Nets have plenty of assets with which to strengthen squad anyway

Yeah and I don't think that's wrong necessarily. It does mean not starting a full rebuild now, but those are so spotty and unpredictable that I don't think they have to rush into one now at top speed. They're a decent team who could easily make the PO this year and next, and their best players are young enough and under contract for long enough that there's no need to launch into tank mode (like there is for most teams). After a few more years, they'll owe fewer picks (and be closer to having the run of PHX etc picks incoming) and can still start a rebuild after that if they need to and if they haven't found some ways to get out of treadmill land.

And practically speaking, by that time it should be obvious to everyone--ownership included--that there aren't other options.

IMO, their biggest problem is Simmons’ health as they are actually a reasonable team with him even at 80% but pretty poor without him

If he’s available, it could be relatively easy to strengthen the team in the relative short term via trades of Din, O’Neale, etc plus picks that would ensure post season play

Unfortunately, relying upon him being consistently available is a fool’s errand atm so they’re stuck

[Ell Curry]

We'll all know this summer. If players of Mitchell and Ingram's age don't extend, it would be indicative of a desire to leave. There's no significant financial reason to wait until '25 to re-sign.

Yeah but they might want to join better teams. Like Ingram for a boatload of picks and he re-signs would make a lot of sense if he wants to try to win a title in a very nicely balanced big 3 with Embiid and Maxey.

Mitchell going to Brooklyn I could see, but I can't imagine Cleveland would let him go for nothing, so I think you'd have to move Cam Johnson and picks for him, and if not, some other team he's happy to re-sign for might come in with a bigger offer.

If Brooklyn can move Cam Johnson and picks for Mitchell I think they’d be overjoyed.

We really do have to wait until extension discussions this summer to figure out the direction they take. It’s hard to see Brooklyn trading Bridges next week unless it’s a massive overpay.

I genuinely can't figure out how many firsts you have eligible to trade. I figured it was like 5-6 total, and I think 4-5 firsts would be enough with Cam Johnson to make a competitive offer if Mitchell says he wants out of Cleveland and will re-sign with only a few teams, like Siakam sort of/probably did. Cleveland maybe moves some of those firsts immediately (or it's a 3 way) for another wing, but Cam Johnson and 4-5 picks is basically the Siakam offer with 1-2 extra firsts and that feels about right.

Anyone know if there is a site that tracks that, or do we have to do the work ourselves from here: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[basketballwacko2]

If it was me I'd only trade Bridges if I could get what I want and that is the picks and swaps back, and Eason plus one more pick. Also I just saw that the Rockets traded Oladipo for Steven Adams so he's out of the equation. Vic might set a record for most times traded.

[TheNetsFan]

Yeah but they might want to join better teams. Like Ingram for a boatload of picks and he re-signs would make a lot of sense if he wants to try to win a title in a very nicely balanced big 3 with Embiid and Maxey.

Mitchell going to Brooklyn I could see, but I can't imagine Cleveland would let him go for nothing, so I think you'd have to move Cam Johnson and picks for him, and if not, some other team he's happy to re-sign for might come in with a bigger offer.

If Brooklyn can move Cam Johnson and picks for Mitchell I think they’d be overjoyed.

We really do have to wait until extension discussions this summer to figure out the direction they take. It’s hard to see Brooklyn trading Bridges next week unless it’s a massive overpay.

I genuinely can't figure out how many firsts you have eligible to trade. I figured it was like 5-6 total, and I think 4-5 firsts would be enough with Cam Johnson to make a competitive offer if Mitchell says he wants out of Cleveland and will re-sign with only a few teams, like Siakam sort of/probably did. Cleveland maybe moves some of those firsts immediately (or it's a 3 way) for another wing, but Cam Johnson and 4-5 picks is basically the Siakam offer with 1-2 extra firsts and that feels about right.

Anyone know if there is a site that tracks that, or do we have to do the work ourselves from here: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

The 1sts the Nets currently have:
'25: 2
'26: 0
'27: 3
'28: 1
'29: 3
'30: 1

So they have 7 tradeable (assuming 1 of the moved is the top 8 protected PHL in '27-28). Houston has swap rights in '25 and '27, but the picks are still movable.

[Ell Curry]

If Brooklyn can move Cam Johnson and picks for Mitchell I think they’d be overjoyed.

We really do have to wait until extension discussions this summer to figure out the direction they take. It’s hard to see Brooklyn trading Bridges next week unless it’s a massive overpay.

I genuinely can't figure out how many firsts you have eligible to trade. I figured it was like 5-6 total, and I think 4-5 firsts would be enough with Cam Johnson to make a competitive offer if Mitchell says he wants out of Cleveland and will re-sign with only a few teams, like Siakam sort of/probably did. Cleveland maybe moves some of those firsts immediately (or it's a 3 way) for another wing, but Cam Johnson and 4-5 picks is basically the Siakam offer with 1-2 extra firsts and that feels about right.

Anyone know if there is a site that tracks that, or do we have to do the work ourselves from here: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

The 1sts the Nets currently have:
'25: 2
'26: 0
'27: 3
'28: 1
'29: 3
'30: 1

So they have 7 tradeable (assuming 1 of the moved is the top 8 protected PHL in '27-28). Houston has swap rights in '25 and '27, but the picks are still movable.

Oh yeah then I could see a deal like this if Mitchell says he wants to "explore free agency."

Nets - Mitchell
Cleveland - Big Guard/solid wing, Cam Johnson, 2 CLE firsts
Team X - Random net who gets paid this summer, 2 CLE firsts

and then you just need that Derrick White or OG Anunoby kind of guy to emerge from some bad team who will take a couple firsts for him.

[Frankie]

The only Bridges deal that makes sense, sucks to say as a Grizz fan. Nets are stuck and Rockets are stuck unless Jalen Green becomes something he isn't (a star).
Nets trade: Bridges, Dennis, Giles, and Lonnie
Rockets trade: Dipo, Landale, Cam, Eason and Thompson return picks

-Not sure why Nets fans believe they will get a star, literally has not worked two times in two different eras
They need to rebuild and would have the 2nd best collection of assets outside of Thunder and Jazz.
-The Rockets get to keep the young core of Sengun, Green, and Smith to add with good vets that propel them to a top 6 seed.

Fred/Green/Smith
Bridges/Green/Lonnie
Dillon/Tate
Smith/Jeff
Sengun/Giles

Houston trade away Whitmore, Eason, Amen AND all the Brooklyn picks? For Bridges and some role player?