Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0

[RexBoyWonder]

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He's not the answer, He's not a huge upgarde over Highsmith at this point.

I rather just play Jovic then overpay for aging meh role players.

[Pokuokic]

You know the All-Star game selections are a joke when a losing team like the Lakers has 2 players but Sabonis who is like top 10 MVP this season and carrying with Fox the Kings to a good record can't get a peak in. Bam is lucky he's in the East.

[batterybro42]

It’s time to bring LeBron back

Riley’s grand finale, all you need is for LeBron to ask for Miami, he doesn’t even need to do so publicly. He holds 1000% of the leverage with the Lakers.

LeBron would be silly with this roster construction, doesn’t have to guard a top player on the other team, and Rozier is the prototype for the type of guard you play next to him like a Walmart Kyrie. You got Jimmy and Bam running support with Jamie as the conduit. You play Lebron at PG

[dubasilva]

It’s time to bring LeBron back

Riley’s grand finale, all you need is for LeBron to ask for Miami, he doesn’t even need to do so publicly. He holds 1000% of the leverage with the Lakers.

LeBron would be silly with this roster construction, doesn’t have to guard a top player on the other team, and Rozier is the prototype for the type of guard you play next to him like a Walmart Kyrie. You got Jimmy and Bam running support with Jamie as the conduit. You play Lebron at PG

So, Hierro and who else?

F... Lebron abandoned us, but hey, I can love him again. I want to win.

BTW, Can he still win a title?

[eddieheatfan]

You know the All-Star game selections are a joke when a losing team like the Lakers has 2 players but Sabonis who is like top 10 MVP this season and carrying with Fox the Kings to a good record can't get a peak in. Bam is lucky he's in the East.

agreed

[marson]

You know the All-Star game selections are a joke when a losing team like the Lakers has 2 players but Sabonis who is like top 10 MVP this season and carrying with Fox the Kings to a good record can't get a peak in. Bam is lucky he's in the East.

Player A

PPG 19.9
RPG 13.0
APG 8.0
TS% 65.5

Player B

PPG 20.6
RPG 10.6
APG 4.2
TS% 56.5

[wade44]

So we’ve reached the trade for Lebron phase of the grieving process again I see

[IceColdCubano]

Every year there's a whisper and dream of Lebron returning, ever since that comment of the keys under the matt by Pat Riley. Dude is 39 Years old, yeah he is still pretty good, but sacrificing 1 year for a chance that may not work and losing assets that could be used in a trade for younger talent......nah

[marson]

Every year there's a whisper and dream of Lebron returning, ever since that comment of the keys under the matt by Pat Riley. Dude is 39 Years old, yeah he is still pretty good, but sacrificing 1 year for a chance that may not work and losing assets that could be used in a trade for younger talent......nah

Getting out of Herro's contract would not be too shabby

[MettaWorldPanda]

Don't tell me Lebron is going to do the old time and tested "Miami Only" move right? lol. That old man is not coming back here plain and simple.

[IceColdCubano]

Every year there's a whisper and dream of Lebron returning, ever since that comment of the keys under the matt by Pat Riley. Dude is 39 Years old, yeah he is still pretty good, but sacrificing 1 year for a chance that may not work and losing assets that could be used in a trade for younger talent......nah

Getting out of Herro's contract would not be too shabby

We will have ample opportunities to get out of his contract, its a good contract at the moment. Nobody at his range is Making 28M-30M everyone is now making 35M+ in about 2 years its going to be extremely valuable as a 25 year old player making 31M for his production when those contracts are going to be sitting at around 45M+ look no further than Zach Lavine contract.

[Kobewade11]

Don't tell me Lebron is going to do the old time and tested "Miami Only" move right? lol. That old man is not coming back here plain and simple.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Every year there's a whisper and dream of Lebron returning, ever since that comment of the keys under the matt by Pat Riley. Dude is 39 Years old, yeah he is still pretty good, but sacrificing 1 year for a chance that may not work and losing assets that could be used in a trade for younger talent......nah

The one team that's playing at the top of the conference and could be one Lebron away from dancing at a title is OKC. Lebron has praised Sam Presti multiple times and plenty of rumors have been thrown out about OKC having the ammo to draft Bronny next year owning multiple first round picks. But some can keep dreaming in here about a Miami reunion that will never take place.

[carnageta]

You know the All-Star game selections are a joke when a losing team like the Lakers has 2 players but Sabonis who is like top 10 MVP this season and carrying with Fox the Kings to a good record can't get a peak in. Bam is lucky he's in the East.

All-star has always been a joke lol. It's nothing but a popularity contest.

[IceColdCubano]

I am going to wait until the end of the season/post season to make a full assessment on Damien Lillard production this year. He still has those sporadic games that are Lillard esq, but they are farther between when they come than the previous season.

I didn't know how to explain the situation, is he unhappy and that's why his play has dipped or is like most predicted he will ultimately face what all small guards deal with in father time, and wear and tear. So I did some digging out of curiosity.

Milwaukee: 25.1pts(22%drop), 4.3rebs(10%drop), 6.8ast(9%drop), @42.2 FG%(9%drop), @34.3 3P%(8%drop), 28.5 usage(17.5%drop), 35.3 MIN(2%drop)
Portland: 32.2pts, 4.8rebs, 7.3ast, @46.3 FG%, 37.1 3P%, 34.2 usage, 36.3 MIN

I used percentage increases and decreases instead of just doing subtracting the difference because I wanted to see correlation between usage rate drop and minute drop to the percent drop in other areas.

What we see here is that he is only had a 2% minute drop from last season, however the biggest thing is usage here where he is at a 17.5% drop in usage which is tied to production. Assist and Rebounding is almost identical in loss of production at 9-10% which correlates to the system where he is towered by a good center in Brook Lopez & Giannis who are also solid passers, so that is expected the minute difference is not big enough to explain the drop however the players around him does. The difference between point per game and Usage rate are high and a difference of 4.5-5% that difference there can be explained from the efficiency loss both on FG% & 3P% having dropped at 8-9%.

Now lets look at how many shots he is putting up, last season in Portland he put up 1202 total shots divided by 58 games played = He was putting up 20.7 shots per game, or he was putting up a shot for every 1.75 minute on the floor.
So far this season in Milwaukee he has shot 790 total shots divided by 45 games played = He is at 17.5 shots per game or putting up a shot every 2 minutes on the floor.
I looked at the pace of the Portland trailblazers last year vs Milwaukee this year and guess what the percentage margin of 2% difference with Portland playing quicker coincides with why Lillard is putting up less shots per minute on the floor adding the usage rate with the ball complete explains his drop in scoring from a total standpoint.

So far his drop in PPG, Rebounding, Assist, are all correlated to Usage rate, Minute played, shots created per minute on the floor, and team pace, aswell as team mates being bigger and far better at passing/rebounding.

The only thing, that is not explained, is the efficiency of those shots dropped, we can hypotheses perhaps he needs the ball more in order to get more rhythm and get better looks than what he has been getting, as a coach I would look to get him more usage, and see if that improves the overall team aspect, However in Milwaukee Giannis touches that ball a lot so that could be hard to change over night.

[RexBoyWonder]

Bouyea is worth a shot. His speed will translate, and his high A/TO ratio will too. He's better then Hampton, easy.

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[RexBoyWonder]

How would you feel about going all in and trading :

Duncan + Martin + Jovic + 24 SRP
For

Jerami Grant

I think that's fair value, and I think Grant will be the best 2 way PF Bam ever played with.

Rozier
Herro
Jimmy
Grant
Bam

Salaies next year will total at around 185Mil$ which is less then a bunch of contenders.

[marson]

How would you feel about going all in and trading :

Duncan + Martin + Jovic + 24 SRP
For

Jerami Grant

I think that's fair value, and I think Grant will be the best 2 way PF Bam ever played with.

Rozier
Herro
Jimmy
Grant
Bam

Salaies next year will total at around 185Mil$ which is less then a bunch of contenders.

Love this trade but.... Cronin

[BadMofoPimp]

How would you feel about going all in and trading :

Duncan + Martin + Jovic + 24 SRP
For

Jerami Grant

I think that's fair value, and I think Grant will be the best 2 way PF Bam ever played with.

Rozier
Herro
Jimmy
Grant
Bam

Salaies next year will total at around 185Mil$ which is less then a bunch of contenders.

Grant is good, but not that good.

[twix2500]

Bouyea is worth a shot. His speed will translate, and his high A/TO ratio will too. He's better then Hampton, easy.

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I think the Heat need a veteran backup point guard. Someone who has the IQ to run an offense against playoff defensive strategies and recognize situations. Not someone learning and facing playoff evironments for the first time.