The Brock Purdy Thread

[Pattersonca65]

https://www.ninersnation.com/2024/2/1/24058511/jed-york-brock-purdy-comments-trey-lance-backup-super-bowl-lviii

This was during 2022 not 2023

[arich35]

https://www.ninersnation.com/2024/2/1/24058511/jed-york-brock-purdy-comments-trey-lance-backup-super-bowl-lviii

This was during 2022 not 2023

I have a hard time believing this but if true that is pretty amazing that Purdy showed that much so quickly

[wco81]

Supposedly Brian Griese went to the mat for the 49ers to draft Purdy, said that he should have been drafted much higher.

Hadn’t heard that account before.

[Samurai]

Supposedly Brian Griese went to the mat for the 49ers to draft Purdy, said that he should have been drafted much higher.

Hadn’t heard that account before.

Hadn't heard that about Griese before. I did hear that Shanahan had to fight for Purdy in that the other coaches were strongly pushing for other positions ('you already gave up a ton of picks last year to get Lance', 'we already have Lance and Jimmy G', 'we need another OL/CB/WR', etc). But Kyle had gotten his heart set on Purdy and fought hard for him. He also knew that other teams were interested in signing him as an undrafted FA and that if he went undrafted, Purdy would not choose to sign with the Niners because they already had their QB of the future (Lance). He really wanted Purdy and thus knew that his only chance to get him would be to use the Mr. Irrelevant pick on him even if QB wasn't really a position of need at that time.

[CharityStripe34]

Well that clip of Jed is from sometime during training-camp or pre-season. Still it's pretty crazy that Shanahan realized it that quickly despite Trey and Jimmy being there.

[thesack12]

Well that clip of Jed is from sometime during training-camp or pre-season. Still it's pretty crazy that Shanahan realized it that quickly despite Trey and Jimmy being there.

At that time Jimmy was not expected to be on the team, and wasn't even allowed to practice.

However, that doesn't change the fact that Kyle saw the promise in Brock so early on.

The crazy thing is nobody is really talking about Brock's almost unfathomable meteoric rise from Mr Irrelevant to MVP candidate to Super Bowl QB. All this in only 2 seasons.

There is zero talk about his comeback from very serious injury to his throwing elbow. An injury which there was legit concern that he may not ever be the same or perhaps even be career threatening. However, Brock buckled down and attacked his rehab and was completely ready and cleared for day 1 of training camp. Which is just remarkable.

There is a lot of Brock Purdy stuff to talk about, unfortunately almost all of the chatter surrounding Brock Purdy is related to his detractors general perception of him.

[CrimsonCrew]

It's already an incredible story. All it needs is the SB victory to cap it off (well, ideally multiple SB victories over his career). That's a tall order, to be sure, but this is a great opportunity. Got to take advantage of it.

[CharityStripe34]

Well that clip of Jed is from sometime during training-camp or pre-season. Still it's pretty crazy that Shanahan realized it that quickly despite Trey and Jimmy being there.

At that time Jimmy was not expected to be on the team, and wasn't even allowed to practice.

However, that doesn't change the fact that Kyle saw the promise in Brock so early on.

The crazy thing is nobody is really talking about Brock's almost unfathomable meteoric rise from Mr Irrelevant to MVP candidate to Super Bowl QB. All this in only 2 seasons.

There is zero talk about his comeback from very serious injury to his throwing elbow. An injury which there was legit concern that he may not ever be the same or perhaps even be career threatening. However, Brock buckled down and attacked his rehab and was completely ready and cleared for day 1 of training camp. Which is just remarkable.

There is a lot of Brock Purdy stuff to talk about, unfortunately almost all of the chatter surrounding Brock Purdy is related to his detractors general perception of him.

Yeah, even many of his supporters in the media fail to acknowledge the off-season reconstructive UCL surgery. To come back from that and have an excellent season on top of it is already incredible for Purdy. The playoff comeback wins and SB berth, to me, are gravy.

[Pattersonca65]

Well that clip of Jed is from sometime during training-camp or pre-season. Still it's pretty crazy that Shanahan realized it that quickly despite Trey and Jimmy being there.

At that time Jimmy was not expected to be on the team, and wasn't even allowed to practice.

However, that doesn't change the fact that Kyle saw the promise in Brock so early on.

The crazy thing is nobody is really talking about Brock's almost unfathomable meteoric rise from Mr Irrelevant to MVP candidate to Super Bowl QB. All this in only 2 seasons.

There is zero talk about his comeback from very serious injury to his throwing elbow. An injury which there was legit concern that he may not ever be the same or perhaps even be career threatening. However, Brock buckled down and attacked his rehab and was completely ready and cleared for day 1 of training camp. Which is just remarkable.

There is a lot of Brock Purdy stuff to talk about, unfortunately almost all of the chatter surrounding Brock Purdy is related to his detractors general perception of him.

Kind of mirrors what Shanahan himself said not too long ago. Brock came into his first season as the 4th string QB. He really was a long shot to make the team and even get practice time but Shanahan said he was playing so well during practices that they couldn't take him off the field. Not a shocker about him looking better than Trey. Lance was just too raw and inexperienced coming out to expect instant success from him. The coaches might have been expecting too much too soon given his age and lack of experience.

[CrimsonCrew]

Lance just wasn't a very good prospect, not to detract from what Purdy has done. He (Lance) had very little starting experience. He didn't have to read the field quickly in his college system. He generally had really good protection and played in a run-first scheme. His mechanics and accuracy were spotty (generously). He was more athletic than his opponents, but not athletic by NFL standards. And he just hasn't shown the feel for the game that you simply have to have unless you are an elite physical prospect (and probably even then).

[Pattersonca65]

Lance just wasn't a very good prospect, not to detract from what Purdy has done. He (Lance) had very little starting experience. He didn't have to read the field quickly in his college system. He generally had really good protection and played in a run-first scheme. His mechanics and accuracy were spotty (generously). He was more athletic than his opponents, but not athletic by NFL standards. And he just hasn't shown the feel for the game that you simply have to have unless you are an elite physical prospect (and probably even then).

I came across a Lance story not long ago from a Dallas Cowboys beat writer. The writer claimed in the story prior to the draft the Cowboys viewed lance as a 2nd round prospect. Quite different from the 49ers. At this point there is little talk of Lance coming out of Dallas. Jerry Jones is maintaining that the want to extend Prescott. They've also said they were not going to pick up Lance's fifth year option worth $20 million. Not a surprise. From what it sounds Dallas is going to try and keep Lance in Dallas but under a much cheaper deal. If not, Lance can walk. There is also talk of trading him to a team looking for a QB although that one did not seem to be coming from the organization.

[CrimsonCrew]

Lance just wasn't a very good prospect, not to detract from what Purdy has done. He (Lance) had very little starting experience. He didn't have to read the field quickly in his college system. He generally had really good protection and played in a run-first scheme. His mechanics and accuracy were spotty (generously). He was more athletic than his opponents, but not athletic by NFL standards. And he just hasn't shown the feel for the game that you simply have to have unless you are an elite physical prospect (and probably even then).

I came across a Lance story not long ago from a Dallas Cowboys beat writer. The writer claimed in the story prior to the draft the Cowboys viewed lance as a 2nd round prospect. Quite different from the 49ers. At this point there is little talk of Lance coming out of Dallas. Jerry Jones is maintaining that the want to extend Prescott. They've also said they were not going to pick up Lance's fifth year option worth $20 million. Not a surprise. From what it sounds Dallas is going to try and keep Lance in Dallas but under a much cheaper deal. If not, Lance can walk. There is also talk of trading him to a team looking for a QB although that one did not seem to be coming from the organization.

I'm certainly no expert, but I watched quite a lot of film on Lance, Fields, and Jones before the draft, and I am on record saying I thought Lance was a second-round pick. I just wasn't very impressed with his play on the field, though he did show some flashes. I wanted him over Jones - who I ranked higher as a prospect - only because I didn't think you could justify giving up what they did for a guy like Jones, and Lance at least had upside.

I have only ever heard good things about the kid, and I truly wish him well, but it was always a bad pick.

In terms of his future, he's under contract for one more year in Dallas, so I guess we'll see. Worth the risk for them, just to get a year or two with him and see what they have. Maybe he develops into a cheap longterm backup to Dak.

[Harry Palmer]

Another way of looking at this is that Brock being as good as he is might mean that him looking better than Lance was not quite as damning as it might have seemed at the time.

[CrimsonCrew]

Another way of looking at this is that Brock being as good as he is might mean that him looking better than Lance was not quite as damning as it might have seemed at the time.

Absolutely. I'd prefer to view it as an endorsement of Brock rather than a condemnation of Trey. Which I think is how it was meant. And Brock is really, really good in the cerebral areas of the game. Seeing the field, anticipating the defense and throwing into open windows, etc. Granted Trey really struggled in those areas in what little we saw of him.

[zman1]

Well that clip of Jed is from sometime during training-camp or pre-season. Still it's pretty crazy that Shanahan realized it that quickly despite Trey and Jimmy being there.

At that time Jimmy was not expected to be on the team, and wasn't even allowed to practice.

However, that doesn't change the fact that Kyle saw the promise in Brock so early on.

The crazy thing is nobody is really talking about Brock's almost unfathomable meteoric rise from Mr Irrelevant to MVP candidate to Super Bowl QB. All this in only 2 seasons.

There is zero talk about his comeback from very serious injury to his throwing elbow. An injury which there was legit concern that he may not ever be the same or perhaps even be career threatening. However, Brock buckled down and attacked his rehab and was completely ready and cleared for day 1 of training camp. Which is just remarkable.

There is a lot of Brock Purdy stuff to talk about, unfortunately almost all of the chatter surrounding Brock Purdy is related to his detractors general perception of him.

Yeah, even many of his supporters in the media fail to acknowledge the off-season reconstructive UCL surgery. To come back from that and have an excellent season on top of it is already incredible for Purdy. The playoff comeback wins and SB berth, to me, are gravy.

Yup, should have been in the running for comeback of the year but no mention.

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[wco81]

One of the doubts about Purdy, despite the numbers he put up, is that he's among the leaders in dropped ints, according to Bill Simmons.

Good possibility that he could have like 8 more interceptions against him if defenders didn't drop the balls or just didn't come up with the catch. Maybe some were difficult but not impossible to catch.

He does take risks throwing to spots before the WRs make a break and that has mostly led to a lot of chunk play catches.

[Pattersonca65]

Another way of looking at this is that Brock being as good as he is might mean that him looking better than Lance was not quite as damning as it might have seemed at the time.

It wasn't damning. Lance was raw. He wasn't near close to ready for NFL football. People were expecting too much of him too soon and placed unrealistic expectations on him.

[Pattersonca65]

https://www.ninersnation.com/2024/2/5/24062040/kyle-shanahan-tom-brady-brock-purdy-deebo-samuel-brandon-aiyuk-49ers

[wco81]

More stats thrown out this week.

Purdy overall did well against outside blitzes, which KC specializes in.

He feasted against corner blitzes with man coverage behind them. But he was only #19 in the league vs. zone blitzes with CBs blitzing.

That is what KC likes to do.

Packers used this early in the game and Kyle didn't call up screen passes to beat that though Deebo was unavailable for much of the game.

The other thing is that Kyle likes to use a lot of tight formations, which brings the CBs who would be blitzing closer to the tackle box.

Key for 49ers to avoid these zone corner blitzes is to do well on first down. CMC has gotten a lot of his yards on first down this season.

[CharityStripe34]

Weirdly enough, it seems Kyle doesn't call a lot of RB/TE screens despite having some of the best players at those positions (you can even include Juice).