For fun.. Herro and Claxton to Orlando

[orlando_joe]

An old idea and my bad idea mixed together. Everyone under the tax after it’s over

Orlando: Fultz, WCJ, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first
Orlando: Claxton, Herro

Orlando adds complete opposite, young vets to bookmark Suggs/Franz/Paolo. They get the elite defensive player and the elite offensive guard.

Brooklyn: Claxton
Brooklyn: Fultz, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first

Gets two firsts for Claxton.

Miami: Herro
Miami: WCJ

Miami trims 14 million and drops far enough under the tax to try and play with the TPE created here if they want. Something like Highsmith+2nd(s) an 7-8 million dollar player and staying under the tax..

so Orlando is trading basically 2 firsts for Claxton who is a free agent this summer?

and WCJ for Herro, when they really need a solid PG not a SG. i could see this a little, but 2 firsts for a free agent doesnt sound like solid asset management

yep ....magic just hold on till summer before doing either of these trades ...need to see what claxton cost if he would sign
then if that falls wcj could be moved adding a couple 2nds maybe with wcj...magic would then keep both firsts..
if it falls through i dont think big deal magic keep flexible and all there assets for different move

i still really value the floor stretching and contract of wcj

[SkyHook]

I like the trade from an outsider’s perspective, good value all the way around. In a vacuum I see the value difference between Herro and WCJ as marginal. The relative value to the incoming team will vary depending upon their needs and I like the roster fits for both the Heat and the Magic. Losing Claxton for Fultz and picks might be a good long term play, but it leaves them grossly undermanned in the middle for now.

[orlando_joe]

An old idea and my bad idea mixed together. Everyone under the tax after it’s over

Orlando: Fultz, WCJ, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first
Orlando: Claxton, Herro

Orlando adds complete opposite, young vets to bookmark Suggs/Franz/Paolo. They get the elite defensive player and the elite offensive guard.

Brooklyn: Claxton
Brooklyn: Fultz, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first

Gets two firsts for Claxton.

Miami: Herro
Miami: WCJ

Miami trims 14 million and drops far enough under the tax to try and play with the TPE created here if they want. Something like Highsmith+2nd(s) an 7-8 million dollar player and staying under the tax..

so Orlando is trading basically 2 firsts for Claxton who is a free agent this summer?

and WCJ for Herro, when they really need a solid PG not a SG. i could see this a little, but 2 firsts for a free agent doesnt sound like solid asset management

You don't get Herro for WCJ, alone.

and thats ok ..not sure why he would be a high target for magic ..its a lot of money for not the big need

[BBallFreak]

so Orlando is trading basically 2 firsts for Claxton who is a free agent this summer?

and WCJ for Herro, when they really need a solid PG not a SG. i could see this a little, but 2 firsts for a free agent doesnt sound like solid asset management

You don't get Herro for WCJ, alone.

and thats ok ..not sure why he would be a high target for magic ..its a lot of money for not the big need

My point was the valuation was off. You're not paying two firsts for Claxton, you're paying one for him and one for Herro

[tiderulz]

You don't get Herro for WCJ, alone.

and thats ok ..not sure why he would be a high target for magic ..its a lot of money for not the big need

My point was the valuation was off. You're not paying two firsts for Claxton, you're paying one for him and one for Herro

but in the trade, Miami is trading Herro for WCJ. So it is paying 2 firsts for a free agent and someone who has his own injury issues.

[BBallFreak]

and thats ok ..not sure why he would be a high target for magic ..its a lot of money for not the big need

My point was the valuation was off. You're not paying two firsts for Claxton, you're paying one for him and one for Herro

but in the trade, Miami is trading Herro for WCJ. So it is paying 2 firsts for a free agent and someone who has his own injury issues.

Because we're forfeiting that pick to save $15 million (and more because we dip below the tax) immediately, but the agreed upon value between most Magic fans and Heat fans seems to be Herro for WCJ, Harris, and the Denver first.

[orlando_joe]

looking at this more magic would just pass i think..both hero and claxton have a lot of missed games for the money they will make and the assets magic would give..i see them staying away from both players and finding better option ...i hope

[Magicman125]

An old idea and my bad idea mixed together. Everyone under the tax after it’s over

Orlando: Fultz, WCJ, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first
Orlando: Claxton, Herro

Orlando adds complete opposite, young vets to bookmark Suggs/Franz/Paolo. They get the elite defensive player and the elite offensive guard.

Brooklyn: Claxton
Brooklyn: Fultz, 2024 Orlando first, 2025 Denver first

Gets two firsts for Claxton.

Miami: Herro
Miami: WCJ

Miami trims 14 million and drops far enough under the tax to try and play with the TPE created here if they want. Something like Highsmith+2nd(s) an 7-8 million dollar player and staying under the tax..

so Orlando is trading basically 2 firsts for Claxton who is a free agent this summer?

and WCJ for Herro, when they really need a solid PG not a SG. i could see this a little, but 2 firsts for a free agent doesnt sound like solid asset management

You don't get Herro for WCJ, alone.

Yeah I was thinking OP has ORL giving too much for Claxton and not enough for Herro.

[tiderulz]

My point was the valuation was off. You're not paying two firsts for Claxton, you're paying one for him and one for Herro

but in the trade, Miami is trading Herro for WCJ. So it is paying 2 firsts for a free agent and someone who has his own injury issues.

Because we're forfeiting that pick to save $15 million (and more because we dip below the tax) immediately, but the agreed upon value between most Magic fans and Heat fans seems to be Herro for WCJ, Harris, and the Denver first.

where is that? not coming from the Magic fans on the Magic board. most of us think Suggs has shown he can play SG and we need a legit PG. I would trade those pieces for Dejounte, not Herro.

[Residual-Heat]

I think this is good value for the Magic for sure (maybe too good), but I think ill pass on Herro only because I want a PG instead of a SG. Good player, and some would say a good fit, but i personally prefer to target a PG.

For the Nets, I do think this is good value for an UFA Claxton IF they decide they want to move him.

[Skybox]

Overall, I'd do it for ORL...but I suspect the DEN pick goes to MIA not BRK.

Claxton may be the best player in the world but he's also an UFA specialist that's likely to get overpaid this summer - assuming ORL can even retain him. If I knew he was in for the long haul at $18m x 4...I'm in.

Fit for both in ORL is beautiful....I'd happily sprinkle additional srps all over too.