Official 2023-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 2.0

[BadMofoPimp]

I would give a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd for Tyus.

Also, not many talk about Marcus Smart. That player is a dog on defense and a competitive spirit.

[Skin]

I would give a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd for Tyus.

Also, not many talk about Marcus Smart. That player is a dog on defense and a competitive spirit.

Crazy that Bucks and Lakers have trade interest in getting good players to upgrade their rosters, but the Magic are like "Nah, we guud bruh"

[BCS]

Tyus is such a perfect fit. I'll be legit sad if we miss out.

Tyus and Cole can’t be on the court at the same time.

Do we try and move Cole?

Trade Cole instead of Fultz for Jones, that would be the move I'd be trying. Fultz is expiring, so whatever, Cole still has 2 more years in his contract after this one before we can let him go. That is priority one for me.

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[OnlyFranz22]

Smart/Kennard combo I can get behind

[RookieStar]

Read on Twitter

We do have a lot of 2nds. This trade makes a lot of sense.

Probably means we won't do it.

[orlando_joe]

I would give a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd for Tyus.

Also, not many talk about Marcus Smart. That player is a dog on defense and a competitive spirit.

Crazy that Bucks and Lakers have trade interest in getting good players to upgrade their rosters, but the Magic are like "Nah, we guud bruh"

might be there window is about to slam shut and magic has not really even opened yet?

[RichCollab]

I like how we are finally healthy going into the final weeks of the trade deadline.

[Skin]

I would give a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd for Tyus.

Also, not many talk about Marcus Smart. That player is a dog on defense and a competitive spirit.

Crazy that Bucks and Lakers have trade interest in getting good players to upgrade their rosters, but the Magic are like "Nah, we guud bruh"

might be there window is about to slam shut and magic has not really even opened yet?

So what do we have to do to open the window? Continue to be passive? Weltman is in his 7th year and our window isn't open yet?

[Bensational]

Read on Twitter

“I got these cash considerations man…!”

Honestly, that offer is too good to turn down. We don’t respect 2nds. Jones is very good. Fultz gets to go home. I won’t be upset if we don’t make a deal but when deals like this are reportedly out there then I understand why anyone would be.

[thelead]

Less than a week to go til the deadline

[Skybox]

So simple…

This should have happened already. Murray fits a glaring need (offensive PG) and a coach Mosely requirement (defensive effort & ability). The only offers I hear (LAL) are relatively weak…ORL is uniquely positioned with large expirings and all of their own picks plus an additional DEN frp. The core is very young and hitting some success just before large extensions will be hitting…now is the time to take a big step to pump up their weak backcourt offense with a guy who also can up their already potent defense. ORL should be happy to sit out a couple drafts…they pulled in 5 high picks in the last 3 years…ATL should jump on this while there’s still time to flip assets by this trade deadline - and accelerate their retooling.

ORL sends: Markelle Fultz, Gary Harris (both expiring, both 6’4, 205+, defensive-minded players), ORL 24, ORL 27, DEN 25 (all top 5 protected)

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin

*tough to send 3 frps for Murray, but adding Paolo’s college teammate, Griffin (who’s been out of the rotation), makes it palatable. Fultz and Harris are very solid, but limited in what they bring- either or both could actually do well with Trae and/or off the bench. At the very least, they represent about $30m in expiring salary for ATL to work with- which, along with picks, is what I understand ATL to be seeking. If ATL would prefer some young, under contract, less expensive players mixed in - Wendell Carter could make Capela expendable, Cole Anthony could provide a lesser Trae off the bench, Caleb Houstan might well provide what Griffin projects to be at a lower salary. Or, ORL could add Ingles & Okeke (TO & expiring) and take back Bogdonavic. The posted option is my preference for ORL and, I believe what ATL is prioritizing…before ATL fans say they don’t want Fultz or Harris - let me remind them that they are included strictly as expiring salary in my OP…anything they bring on-court is just added value gravy, IMO. If ATL chooses to keep either (likely on reduced deals) or flip either to a contender…that’s just bonus.

Why for ORL: their backcourt defense goes from impactful to frightening. Suggs’ insane energy revitalizes Dejounte’s defensive intensity and they become a truly angry backcourt to face. Anthony Black off the bench keeps it going all game. Dejounte also brings the backcourt scoring and volume shooting ORL presently lacks at that spot. Griffin brings positional versatility and high-volume spot-up 3’s (which are abundant with Paolo & Franz’ gravity inside). Paolo is pumped to be relieved of facing double and triple teams all night and piles up assists with reliable backcourt scoring. He welcomes reuniting with his hometown hero and his college teammate. The “beef” that Paolo & Dejounte had was way overblown and happily forgotten by both. Paolo is icy on the outside, but along with Suggs & Franz, he feeds off of a guy like Dejounte’s hard edges & competitive ferocity.

If Dejounte goes to LAL for Russell and some distant crappy pick, I will never understand it.

[Skybox]

Marcus Smart might be the LAST guy we should trade for…a declining, well-paid version of what we already have too many of - defense only backcourt players who aren’t really PGs but can’t shoot or score reliably. If we got Smart, our team needs would be completely unchanged.

[Furinkazan]

Marcus Smart might be the LAST guy we should trade for…a declining, well-paid version of what we already have too many of - defense only backcourt players who aren’t really PGs but can’t shoot or score reliably. If we got Smart, our team needs would be completely unchanged.

dude imagine the junkyard dogs defensive backcourt XD tho


Id call them pitbull bros

[Skybox]

Marcus Smart might be the LAST guy we should trade for…a declining, well-paid version of what we already have too many of - defense only backcourt players who aren’t really PGs but can’t shoot or score reliably. If we got Smart, our team needs would be completely unchanged.

dude imagine the junkyard dogs defensive backcourt XD tho


Id call them pitbull bros

Would be fun…but we ain’t winning 50-45

I think Murray might be a better defender than Smart by now…he’s a lot longer…and he’s capable of 20ppg all season. Smarts never dreamed of that. I love how Smart plays…we just already have that in two younger, cheaper packages.

[Furinkazan]

Marcus Smart might be the LAST guy we should trade for…a declining, well-paid version of what we already have too many of - defense only backcourt players who aren’t really PGs but can’t shoot or score reliably. If we got Smart, our team needs would be completely unchanged.

dude imagine the junkyard dogs defensive backcourt XD tho


Id call them pitbull bros

Would be fun…but we ain’t winning 50-45

I think Murray might be a better defender than Smart by now…he’s a lot longer…and he’s capable of 20ppg all season. Smarts never dreamed of that. I love how Smart plays…we just already have that in two younger, cheaper packages.

but Murray defnese is AWOL ever since he landed in ATL

[Skybox]

dude imagine the junkyard dogs defensive backcourt XD tho


Id call them pitbull bros

Would be fun…but we ain’t winning 50-45

I think Murray might be a better defender than Smart by now…he’s a lot longer…and he’s capable of 20ppg all season. Smarts never dreamed of that. I love how Smart plays…we just already have that in two younger, cheaper packages.

but Murray defnese is AWOL ever since he landed in ATL

Blame ATL...that whole thing didn't work...he's 100% dawg. He and Suggs would be nuts

[RichCollab]

So simple…

This should have happened already. Murray fits a glaring need (offensive PG) and a coach Mosely requirement (defensive effort & ability). The only offers I hear (LAL) are relatively weak…ORL is uniquely positioned with large expirings and all of their own picks plus an additional DEN frp. The core is very young and hitting some success just before large extensions will be hitting…now is the time to take a big step to pump up their weak backcourt offense with a guy who also can up their already potent defense. ORL should be happy to sit out a couple drafts…they pulled in 5 high picks in the last 3 years…ATL should jump on this while there’s still time to flip assets by this trade deadline - and accelerate their retooling.

ORL sends: Markelle Fultz, Gary Harris (both expiring, both 6’4, 205+, defensive-minded players), ORL 24, ORL 27, DEN 25 (all top 5 protected)

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin

*tough to send 3 frps for Murray, but adding Paolo’s college teammate, Griffin (who’s been out of the rotation), makes it palatable. Fultz and Harris are very solid, but limited in what they bring- either or both could actually do well with Trae and/or off the bench. At the very least, they represent about $30m in expiring salary for ATL to work with- which, along with picks, is what I understand ATL to be seeking. If ATL would prefer some young, under contract, less expensive players mixed in - Wendell Carter could make Capela expendable, Cole Anthony could provide a lesser Trae off the bench, Caleb Houstan might well provide what Griffin projects to be at a lower salary. Or, ORL could add Ingles & Okeke (TO & expiring) and take back Bogdonavic. The posted option is my preference for ORL and, I believe what ATL is prioritizing…before ATL fans say they don’t want Fultz or Harris - let me remind them that they are included strictly as expiring salary in my OP…anything they bring on-court is just added value gravy, IMO. If ATL chooses to keep either (likely on reduced deals) or flip either to a contender…that’s just bonus.

Why for ORL: their backcourt defense goes from impactful to frightening. Suggs’ insane energy revitalizes Dejounte’s defensive intensity and they become a truly angry backcourt to face. Anthony Black off the bench keeps it going all game. Dejounte also brings the backcourt scoring and volume shooting ORL presently lacks at that spot. Griffin brings positional versatility and high-volume spot-up 3’s (which are abundant with Paolo & Franz’ gravity inside). Paolo is pumped to be relieved of facing double and triple teams all night and piles up assists with reliable backcourt scoring. He welcomes reuniting with his hometown hero and his college teammate. The “beef” that Paolo & Dejounte had was way overblown and happily forgotten by both. Paolo is icy on the outside, but along with Suggs & Franz, he feeds off of a guy like Dejounte’s hard edges & competitive ferocity.

If Dejounte goes to LAL for Russell and some distant crappy pick, I will never understand it.

Griffin is an often injured player. DJM is questionable mentality and isn’t a great 3pt shooter. I’m not sure I go all in with our 1st picks.

[BadMofoPimp]

Ya'll know Lakers always get whomever they want so some 3rd team will step up and bail them out so they get their man, Murray . . . wall while the Magic stay mid-level without taking risk by probably trading for an average pg.

[tiderulz]

dude imagine the junkyard dogs defensive backcourt XD tho


Id call them pitbull bros

Would be fun…but we ain’t winning 50-45

I think Murray might be a better defender than Smart by now…he’s a lot longer…and he’s capable of 20ppg all season. Smarts never dreamed of that. I love how Smart plays…we just already have that in two younger, cheaper packages.

but Murray defnese is AWOL ever since he landed in ATL

might be frustrated playing beside a turnstile on defense.

[tiderulz]

So simple…

This should have happened already. Murray fits a glaring need (offensive PG) and a coach Mosely requirement (defensive effort & ability). The only offers I hear (LAL) are relatively weak…ORL is uniquely positioned with large expirings and all of their own picks plus an additional DEN frp. The core is very young and hitting some success just before large extensions will be hitting…now is the time to take a big step to pump up their weak backcourt offense with a guy who also can up their already potent defense. ORL should be happy to sit out a couple drafts…they pulled in 5 high picks in the last 3 years…ATL should jump on this while there’s still time to flip assets by this trade deadline - and accelerate their retooling.

ORL sends: Markelle Fultz, Gary Harris (both expiring, both 6’4, 205+, defensive-minded players), ORL 24, ORL 27, DEN 25 (all top 5 protected)

ATL sends: Dejounte Murray, AJ Griffin

*tough to send 3 frps for Murray, but adding Paolo’s college teammate, Griffin (who’s been out of the rotation), makes it palatable. Fultz and Harris are very solid, but limited in what they bring- either or both could actually do well with Trae and/or off the bench. At the very least, they represent about $30m in expiring salary for ATL to work with- which, along with picks, is what I understand ATL to be seeking. If ATL would prefer some young, under contract, less expensive players mixed in - Wendell Carter could make Capela expendable, Cole Anthony could provide a lesser Trae off the bench, Caleb Houstan might well provide what Griffin projects to be at a lower salary. Or, ORL could add Ingles & Okeke (TO & expiring) and take back Bogdonavic. The posted option is my preference for ORL and, I believe what ATL is prioritizing…before ATL fans say they don’t want Fultz or Harris - let me remind them that they are included strictly as expiring salary in my OP…anything they bring on-court is just added value gravy, IMO. If ATL chooses to keep either (likely on reduced deals) or flip either to a contender…that’s just bonus.

Why for ORL: their backcourt defense goes from impactful to frightening. Suggs’ insane energy revitalizes Dejounte’s defensive intensity and they become a truly angry backcourt to face. Anthony Black off the bench keeps it going all game. Dejounte also brings the backcourt scoring and volume shooting ORL presently lacks at that spot. Griffin brings positional versatility and high-volume spot-up 3’s (which are abundant with Paolo & Franz’ gravity inside). Paolo is pumped to be relieved of facing double and triple teams all night and piles up assists with reliable backcourt scoring. He welcomes reuniting with his hometown hero and his college teammate. The “beef” that Paolo & Dejounte had was way overblown and happily forgotten by both. Paolo is icy on the outside, but along with Suggs & Franz, he feeds off of a guy like Dejounte’s hard edges & competitive ferocity.

If Dejounte goes to LAL for Russell and some distant crappy pick, I will never understand it.

Griffin is an often injured player. DJM is questionable mentality and isn’t a great 3pt shooter. I’m not sure I go all in with our 1st picks.

maybe in college, he was healthy his rookie year. missed some games this year but mostly seems just no trust with the coaches