Sacramento - Toronto

[Godaddycurse]

Toronto trade: Brown Jr, Schroder
Sacramento trade: Huerter, Mitchell, Duarte, 2026 (LPx3 yrs then 2nds)1st

Why for Sacramento: upgrade back up PG and wing D
Why for Toronto: add a pick and shooter for their rebuild around Barnes

People liked duarte/Mitchell/3 2nds for Schroder. Figure kings can use Brown too and remembered they were okay with adding value to Huerter for Brown in other threads so combined the 2 here.

[OxAndFox]

Toronto trade: Brown Jr, Schroder
Sacramento trade: Huerter, Mitchell, Duarte, 2026 (LPx3 yrs then 2nds)1st

Why for Sacramento: upgrade back up PG and wing D
Why for Toronto: add a pick and shooter for their rebuild around Barnes

People liked duarte/Mitchell/3 2nds for Schroder. Figure kings can use Brown too and remembered they were okay with adding value to Huerter for Brown in other threads so combined the 2 here.

Would much rather spend a first on Kuzma. He is a much, much better player than Brown/Schroeder combined.

Huerter > Brown
Mitchell/Duarte < Schroeder

Even if you think Huerter isn't as good as Brown (he is BTW), the difference isn't a first.

[Godaddycurse]

Toronto trade: Brown Jr, Schroder
Sacramento trade: Huerter, Mitchell, Duarte, 2026 (LPx3 yrs then 2nds)1st

Why for Sacramento: upgrade back up PG and wing D
Why for Toronto: add a pick and shooter for their rebuild around Barnes

People liked duarte/Mitchell/3 2nds for Schroder. Figure kings can use Brown too and remembered they were okay with adding value to Huerter for Brown in other threads so combined the 2 here.

Would much rather spend a first on Kuzma. He is a much, much better player than Brown/Schroeder combined.

Huerter > Brown
Mitchell/Duarte < Schroeder

Even if you think Huerter isn't as good as Brown (he is BTW), the difference isn't a first.

I think most posters considered Brown as worth more than Huerter. Brown is definitely more valuable in the playoffs imo

[OxAndFox]

Toronto trade: Brown Jr, Schroder
Sacramento trade: Huerter, Mitchell, Duarte, 2026 (LPx3 yrs then 2nds)1st

Why for Sacramento: upgrade back up PG and wing D
Why for Toronto: add a pick and shooter for their rebuild around Barnes

People liked duarte/Mitchell/3 2nds for Schroder. Figure kings can use Brown too and remembered they were okay with adding value to Huerter for Brown in other threads so combined the 2 here.

Would much rather spend a first on Kuzma. He is a much, much better player than Brown/Schroeder combined.

Huerter > Brown
Mitchell/Duarte < Schroeder

Even if you think Huerter isn't as good as Brown (he is BTW), the difference isn't a first.

I think most posters considered Brown as worth more than Huerter. Brown is definitely more valuable in the playoffs imo

Absolutely Brown has been good the last couple of years in the POs. He is a good player. No denying that. And I think his impact in a PO series last year was and is far greater than Huerters. Kevin almost got played off the floor due to his shooting. This year it's a bit different.

Kevin has improved on the defensive side of the ball so far and is doing the little things well. I understand people won't see it but its there when you watch the games. He still has a way to go to not foul, but he's getting there. Not on the Brown impact on D that's for certain and never will be, but Brown can't have the impact Huerter has on the offensive end either, particularly in this Kings offense.
That has to be factored in.

[OxAndFox]

I should have added, as I mentioned in the first reply. If Kuzma is available for a similar price then I go with him. If Brown had a similar contract as Kevin, or even a another year on top then yeah that makes things different.
And I'm not trying to diminish Schroeder in this either. He would be a decent piece too. If you're trading 1st round picks though you always go for the better player which is Kuzma.

[BoogieTime]

Toronto trade: Brown Jr, Schroder
Sacramento trade: Huerter, Mitchell, Duarte, 2026 (LPx3 yrs then 2nds)1st

Why for Sacramento: upgrade back up PG and wing D
Why for Toronto: add a pick and shooter for their rebuild around Barnes

People liked duarte/Mitchell/3 2nds for Schroder. Figure kings can use Brown too and remembered they were okay with adding value to Huerter for Brown in other threads so combined the 2 here.

not sure about this part with Huerter showing life/having some better analytics/ having the bird rights.. Tying up a first for the exchange doesn't seem it at this point.

[wegotthabeet]

Brown for Lyles, Mitchell, Duarte + 2026 1st lottery protected.

Kings can keep Heurter.

[LightTheBeam]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

[wegotthabeet]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

[BoogieTime]

Brown for Lyles, Mitchell, Duarte + 2026 1st lottery protected.

Kings can keep Heurter.

Problem is tying up the first as well

The Kings need to be using their draft capital for a difference maker (Brown is a role player who has been mediocre)

The Kings have to circumvent trading draft capital now due to the Huerter obligations

Its tying up years draft capital can be spent on a difference maker

[K_chile22]

I have a hard time seeing Brown return a first without taking back some bad money

[LightTheBeam]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

That's fair. If we were trading a useless expiring, I could definitely see it. But swapping Huerter for Brown isn't worth a 1st imo. Huerter had a very rough start to the season, but bounced back last 2/3rds in January.

Last 9 games he's averaging 17/5/4 while shooting 47% from 3.

Not sure what his deal was. Missed some games with a hand injury, likely lingered and hurt his as a shooter.

[Godaddycurse]

looks like i overshot on this one, appreciated the feedback from kings fans

[wegotthabeet]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

That's fair. If we were trading a useless expiring, I could definitely see it. But swapping Huerter for Brown isn't worth a 1st imo. Huerter had a very rough start to the season, but bounced back last 2/3rds in January.

Last 9 games he's averaging 17/5/4 while shooting 47% from 3.

Not sure what his deal was. Missed some games with a hand injury, likely lingered and hurt his as a shooter.

100%. I have Heurter and Brown as pretty much even value. Heurter is more valuable to the kings than the raptors, so let them keep both.

They basically just want what Atlanta got for Heurter or a similar package for Brown.

[OGSactownballer]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

Then Mariano’s going to look like a fool and let another asset walk.

The constant effort to include overpays by adding first round picks from the Kings is laughable.

Brown peaked and is four years older than Huerter. And while he might have a slight edge right now, that can vanish easily as Huerter matures into his prime and we have his bird rights. And he is always upgradable in a reasonable deal for production.

I was a supporter of the Mitchell/Duarte and seconds deal for Schroeder. It’s balanced and makes sense for both teams. This is ridiculous and not even close to being a decent deal nor anything we want or need.

[OGSactownballer]

Brown for Lyles, Mitchell, Duarte + 2026 1st lottery protected.

Kings can keep Heurter.

Problem is tying up the first as well

The Kings need to be using their draft capital for a difference maker (Brown is a role player who has been mediocre)

The Kings have to circumvent trading draft capital now due to the Huerter obligations

Its tying up years draft capital can be spent on a difference maker

Yeah being straight - that version is even more bonefish and insanely off on value.

[MessiahUjiri]

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

That's fair. If we were trading a useless expiring, I could definitely see it. But swapping Huerter for Brown isn't worth a 1st imo. Huerter had a very rough start to the season, but bounced back last 2/3rds in January.

Last 9 games he's averaging 17/5/4 while shooting 47% from 3.

Not sure what his deal was. Missed some games with a hand injury, likely lingered and hurt his as a shooter.

100%. I have Heurter and Brown as pretty much even value. Heurter is more valuable to the kings than the raptors, so let them keep both.

They basically just want what Atlanta got for Heurter or a similar package for Brown.

If Kings are serious about winning anything in the playoffs, they need to add some defense. Especially cuz Fox and Sabonis aren’t known for locking anyone down.

Brown is a much better option than Huerter on the defensive end of the floor, which is why I can why Sacramento trading for him. Sacramento needs some “dawg”….I think everyone recognizes that.


The question is what the package might be. I agree that they should save the first, and attach a bunch of 2nds.


Huerter + 3 2nds.


^Thats strong enough incentive for Toronto, without overpaying for the Kings.

[LightTheBeam]

I like Brown, but I'm not giving a 1st here. Happy to take out Huerter/Brown and just do the duarte/davion/2nds for Schroder part I posted previously.

I'd even do 5 2nds with op. But not a 1st, kings can't trade our 1sts for minor upgrades. Rather use it to upgrade Barnes. I get huerter struggled in the playoffs, but that's the beauty of having Monk.

Toronto is holding out for 1st. If no team offers one then they keep him until the summer. Seems to the consensus now.

Then Mariano’s going to look like a fool and let another asset walk.

The constant effort to include overpays by adding first round picks from the Kings is laughable.

Brown peaked and is four years older than Huerter. And while he might have a slight edge right now, that can vanish easily as Huerter matures into his prime and we have his bird rights. And he is always upgradable in a reasonable deal for production.

I was a supporter of the Mitchell/Duarte and seconds deal for Schroeder. It’s balanced and makes sense for both teams. This is ridiculous and not even close to being a decent deal nor anything we want or need.

Minor correction but the 2 are separated by 2 years. Huerter 25, Brown 27. I think both teams could use the other guy more tbh. Brown is far superior defender and better rebounder, Huerter the better shooter + scorer. Huerter is also locked in another year at a cheaper salary.

[LightTheBeam]

That's fair. If we were trading a useless expiring, I could definitely see it. But swapping Huerter for Brown isn't worth a 1st imo. Huerter had a very rough start to the season, but bounced back last 2/3rds in January.

Last 9 games he's averaging 17/5/4 while shooting 47% from 3.

Not sure what his deal was. Missed some games with a hand injury, likely lingered and hurt his as a shooter.

100%. I have Heurter and Brown as pretty much even value. Heurter is more valuable to the kings than the raptors, so let them keep both.

They basically just want what Atlanta got for Heurter or a similar package for Brown.

If Kings are serious about winning anything in the playoffs, they need to add some defense. Especially cuz Fox and Sabonis aren’t known for locking anyone down.

Brown is a much better option than Huerter on the defensive end of the floor, which is why I can why Sacramento trading for him. Sacramento needs some “dawg”….I think everyone recognizes that.


The question is what the package might be. I agree that they should save the first, and attach a bunch of 2nds.


Huerter + 3 2nds.


^Thats strong enough incentive for Toronto, without overpaying for the Kings.

This I'm fine with. Like I said before

Huerter + Davion + Duarte + 5 2nds for Schroder + Brown

One of the 2nds we are owed is Portlands for next year which should be 31-36 range.

[MessiahUjiri]

100%. I have Heurter and Brown as pretty much even value. Heurter is more valuable to the kings than the raptors, so let them keep both.

They basically just want what Atlanta got for Heurter or a similar package for Brown.

If Kings are serious about winning anything in the playoffs, they need to add some defense. Especially cuz Fox and Sabonis aren’t known for locking anyone down.

Brown is a much better option than Huerter on the defensive end of the floor, which is why I can why Sacramento trading for him. Sacramento needs some “dawg”….I think everyone recognizes that.


The question is what the package might be. I agree that they should save the first, and attach a bunch of 2nds.


Huerter + 3 2nds.


^Thats strong enough incentive for Toronto, without overpaying for the Kings.

This I'm fine with. Like I said before

Huerter + Davion + Duarte + 5 2nds for Schroder + Brown

One of the 2nds we are owed is Portlands for next year which should be 31-36 range.

Yeah I’d do it.