Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0

[KingDavid]

I do wonder with all the little injuries Kyrie has had (questionable fit) if the Mavs decide to pull the pin early at the deadline and Miami sends a Herro/JJJ/Jovic/Martin picks for him and Propser (rookie they drafted this season)....just a thought.

I wouldn't count on it, don't think Kyrie will ever be allowed to wear a Heat uniform. I believe he offended Jews (promoting a movie that's believed to be antisemitic; idk if it is or not) refused to apologize at first and then only did so under duress. Mickey Arison is of that faith.

[twix2500]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

[KingDavid]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

Teams were collapsing on our p&r because our guards were not pressuring the lane like they do now and Bam was not aggressively diving like he does now; he was popping a lot I think. I wonder how those stats look the past two games. Is it possible to pull that up?

[twix2500]

How the wizards matched up on the Heats Herro- Rozier backcourt

Like the Kings the Kings put a forward in Herro. Not sure if Avdija is a small or power forward, I guess a tweener. Poole was assigned/hidden on Highsmith.

Tyler Herro matchups vs Wiz
1. Avdija
2. Coulibaly
3. Krispert

Terry Rozier matchup vs Wiz
1. Jones
2. Coulibaly
3. Avdija

[twix2500]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

Teams were collapsing on our p&r because our guards were not pressuring the lane like they do now and Bam was not aggressively diving like he does now; he was popping a lot I think. I wonder how those stats look the past two games. Is it possible to pull that up?

Struggling to find a way I can filter games. That's I why I decided to post his stats now, so I can refer back too and see a change over time, if there is no filter

[KingDavid]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

Teams were collapsing on our p&r because our guards were not pressuring the lane like they do now and Bam was not aggressively diving like he does now; he was popping a lot I think. I wonder how those stats look the past two games. Is it possible to pull that up?

Struggling to find a way I can filter games. That's I why I decided to post his stats now, so I can refer back too and see a change over time, if there is no filter

I got you, I appreciate you doing this. I'm just as curious to see how it turns out.

[KingDavid]

Cam Whitmore averaging 20-6 on 41% from 3 with 7 attempts a game with a 63TS%, may have been running victory laps way too soon

Love Jaime though.

Nicestats but I wouldn't be so quick to crown Whitmore just yet...he has major flaws that would not work on our roster. Someone made a thread recently on the GB. It'll give you a better idea of what he really looks like. Tunnel vision, black hole, needs to learn to look for teammates and pass; it isn't all good. We never interviewed him because understandably, no one expected him to be within reach of us. We made that mistake once with Bustise and aren't going to do that again. We still made out like bandits with Jaquez. Imagine how this place would react if we passed on Jaquez, and the other good picks available for someone that had to get sent to the g-league for development at the beginning of the season. Sammy, you'd be calling for Riley's head on a platter.

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[RexBoyWonder]

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I couldn’t agree more. I think we’ve been saying that for years.

The funny part of this is that Stephen A couldn’t even let Sheed talk about the Heat for 1 minute before he interrupts him mid-sentence to change the topic to Boston.

The problem with playing bam at pf is that bam’s game required to be close tto or in the paint to score which would’ve clog up the paint if bam were to play pf. I don’t think bam playing center is the issue. It’s the 4. Kevin Love can play the 4 but not for too long.

I'm sick of reapting this, we've been talking about this for years.

Bam needs a front court player next him, doesn't matter if it's a C or a PF that :

1) Has legit size : 6'8 at minimum (so no Highsmith or Martin)
2) Has a legit stroke - 36%+ on highish volume (
3) Doesn't have concrete feet, isn't washed, can move and guard. (so no Love)


Why FFS are we not playing Jovic is beyond me.
We're missing a legit big with size that can shoot, and we're not playing the kid everyone seems to love and praise. **** makes zero sense.

[twix2500]

Heat too 3 used lineups in the Wiz game

1. J. Butler - T. Rozier - B. Adebayo - H. Highsmith - T. Herro
11 min, 91.3 Ofrtg, 95.7 DeRtg, -4.3 Net, 100.82 Pace

2. T. Herro - J. Richardson - C. Martin - J. Jaquez Jr. - B. Adebayo
10 min, 84.2 OfRtg, 110.0 DefRtg, -25.8 Net, 92.52 Pace

3. T. Rozier - J. Butler - C. Martin - J. Jaquez Jr. - K. Love
5 min, 136.4 OfRtg, 66.7 Defrgt, +69.7 Net, 95.3 Pace

[twix2500]

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I couldn’t agree more. I think we’ve been saying that for years.

The funny part of this is that Stephen A couldn’t even let Sheed talk about the Heat for 1 minute before he interrupts him mid-sentence to change the topic to Boston.

The problem with playing bam at pf is that bam’s game required to be close tto or in the paint to score which would’ve clog up the paint if bam were to play pf. I don’t think bam playing center is the issue. It’s the 4. Kevin Love can play the 4 but not for too long.

I'm sick of reapting this, we've been talking about this for years.

Bam needs a front court player next him, doesn't matter if it's a C or a PF that :

1) Has legit size : 6'8 at minimum (so no Highsmith or Martin)
2) Has a legit stroke - 36%+ on highish volume (
3) Doesn't have concrete feet, isn't washed, can move and guard. (so no Love)


Why FFS are we not playing Jovic is beyond me.
We're missing a legit big with size that can shoot, and we're not playing the kid everyone seems to love and praise. **** makes zero sense.

Just maybe (highly unlikely) Spo is keeping the vets playing because he wants to focus on getting Rozier implemented and not have to worry about coaching up Jovic. Maybe once Rozier gets settled with Spo then we may see him come back to Jovic after all-star break

[RexBoyWonder]

The problem with playing bam at pf is that bam’s game required to be close tto or in the paint to score which would’ve clog up the paint if bam were to play pf. I don’t think bam playing center is the issue. It’s the 4. Kevin Love can play the 4 but not for too long.

I'm sick of reapting this, we've been talking about this for years.

Bam needs a front court player next him, doesn't matter if it's a C or a PF that :

1) Has legit size : 6'8 at minimum (so no Highsmith or Martin)
2) Has a legit stroke - 36%+ on highish volume (
3) Doesn't have concrete feet, isn't washed, can move and guard. (so no Love)


Why FFS are we not playing Jovic is beyond me.
We're missing a legit big with size that can shoot, and we're not playing the kid everyone seems to love and praise. **** makes zero sense.

Just maybe (highly unlikely) Spo is keeping the vets playing because he wants to focus on getting Rozier implemented and not have to worry about coaching up Jovic. Maybe once Rozier gets settled with Spo then we may see him come back to Jovic after all-star break

I don't buy it, and if you're right it's still a big mistake.

Martin and Highsmith aren't PFs, they're wing (not great wings either) being misplaced at PF.

Jovic needs all the reps he can get, he's bigger, a better shooter and overall more talented then both of them, yet we're freezing him, why exactly? Is Martin playing so Great? Is Highsmith shooting lights out?
It makes no sense.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This guy should’ve been our backup after his buyout but “we have enough” got in the way.

He was always going to LA. He wanted to be there. It was never a matter of is needing to go after him, he didn't want us.

Let's not revise history, either. We, this board, didn't want him because he looked cooked. He was called Westbrick for a good reason.

He liked Miami, always has. We “prioritized size” and “got concerning feedback from those we trust” so didn’t make him a high priority.

Go back and read the threads, I wanted him lol. A few others did too but yea there were those who just join the crowd and start yelling Westbrick for sure

[3ammy3uck3ts]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

What’s your cut off point because to be 35th there’s got to be quite a few guys with very few attempts listed ahead of him

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Bams gotta find the mid range jumper again but also lower the attempts and get to the rim more, it’s destroying his efficiency. I’m not sure what happened, he was knockdown all over the place to start the season, everyone’s just been in some sort of a funk

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Cam Whitmore averaging 20-6 on 41% from 3 with 7 attempts a game with a 63TS%, may have been running victory laps way too soon

Love Jaime though.

Nicestats but I wouldn't be so quick to crown Whitmore just yet...he has major flaws that would not work on our roster. Someone made a thread recently on the GB. It'll give you a better idea of what he really looks like. Tunnel vision, black hole, needs to learn to look for teammates and pass; it isn't all good. We never interviewed him because understandably, no one expected him to be within reach of us. We made that mistake once with Bustise and aren't going to do that again. We still made out like bandits with Jaquez. Imagine how this place would react if we passed on Jaquez, and the other good picks available for someone that had to get sent to the g-league for development at the beginning of the season. Sammy, you'd be calling for Riley's head on a platter.

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Honestly I might have, I might have not lol. I wanted Whitmore but either way I didn’t expect production from who we drafted tbh, luckily we got that from Jaime. I hope he finds his groove again.

With Whitmore, yea he doesn’t pass too much and get assists, I think it’s just a work in progress which is to be expected at 19. But being 6’7 232 with that athleticism he has all the tools to be a star in this league. We’ll see what happens.

I saw a tweet that said they had a feeling that this draft is going to look like Jaime being Gordon Hayward and Cam ending up like PG, that could be accurate lol.

[twix2500]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

What’s your cut off point because to be 35th there’s got to be quite a few guys with very few attempts listed ahead of him

Honestly I can't remember, I had a min amount of possession.I think was a min of 2 possession. I literally just closed the tab. just closed the tab. Not to low behind Bam

[Daffy]

I do wonder with all the little injuries Kyrie has had (questionable fit) if the Mavs decide to pull the pin early at the deadline and Miami sends a Herro/JJJ/Jovic/Martin picks for him and Propser (rookie they drafted this season)....just a thought.

I wouldn't count on it, don't think Kyrie will ever be allowed to wear a Heat uniform. I believe he offended Jews (promoting a movie that's believed to be antisemitic; idk if it is or not) refused to apologize at first and then only did so under duress. Mickey Arison is of that faith.

Word is we tried to trade for him before Dallas got him. I'll see if I find it. I think Shams reported it. Don't quote me on that though.

[twix2500]

I'm sick of reapting this, we've been talking about this for years.

Bam needs a front court player next him, doesn't matter if it's a C or a PF that :

1) Has legit size : 6'8 at minimum (so no Highsmith or Martin)
2) Has a legit stroke - 36%+ on highish volume (
3) Doesn't have concrete feet, isn't washed, can move and guard. (so no Love)


Why FFS are we not playing Jovic is beyond me.
We're missing a legit big with size that can shoot, and we're not playing the kid everyone seems to love and praise. **** makes zero sense.

Just maybe (highly unlikely) Spo is keeping the vets playing because he wants to focus on getting Rozier implemented and not have to worry about coaching up Jovic. Maybe once Rozier gets settled with Spo then we may see him come back to Jovic after all-star break

I don't buy it, and if you're right it's still a big mistake.

Martin and Highsmith aren't PFs, they're wing (not great wings either) being misplaced at PF.

Jovic needs all the reps he can get, he's bigger, a better shooter and overall more talented then both of them, yet we're freezing him, why exactly? Is Martin playing so Great? Is Highsmith shooting lights out?
It makes no sense.

You know it's about the System. They want Martin or Highsmith in the game at all times for pressing the point. When Jovic is in the game they primary gonna play zone. They don't care about them scoring.

I might be mistaken but I dont recall them playing zone much at all since Rozier arrived

[Daffy]

I do wonder with all the little injuries Kyrie has had (questionable fit) if the Mavs decide to pull the pin early at the deadline and Miami sends a Herro/JJJ/Jovic/Martin picks for him and Propser (rookie they drafted this season)....just a thought.

I wouldn't count on it, don't think Kyrie will ever be allowed to wear a Heat uniform. I believe he offended Jews (promoting a movie that's believed to be antisemitic; idk if it is or not) refused to apologize at first and then only did so under duress. Mickey Arison is of that faith.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-rumors-heat-made-offer-for-kyrie-irving-at-trade-deadline-and-miami-plans-to-star-hunt-again-this-summer/

Found it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

For tracking purposes

Bam Adebayo
Pick n Roll Roller stats
Points per possession = 1.15 (35th behind Gobert)
Possessions per game = 3.5 (7th behind Myles Turner)
Pts per game = 4.1 (8th behind Porzingis)
Frequency 17.1%

What’s your cut off point because to be 35th there’s got to be quite a few guys with very few attempts listed ahead of him

Honestly I can't remember, I had a min amount of possession.I think was a min of 2 possession. I literally just closed the tab. just closed the tab. Not to low behind Bam

Ok cool was just wondering, I had taken a look and of guys with a least 2 possessions a game he was at like 16th in PPP which is still half the volume he has.

Of guys in the top 10 in possessions per game he ranks as the 4th best in points per possession ahead of guys like Embiid and AD. He trails Turner, Chet, and Porzingis. The difference is those guys have elite PGs (Turner and Chet) or when it comes to KP just elite talent at each position plus he has crazy size.

It’s wild what an elite playmaker can do for you, Turner wasn’t even in the top 50 in possessions per game but since getting Haliburton he’s been top 10 in possessions and this year he’s the best at 1.39 PPP.