Your Top Young Realisitic Trade/Free Agent Targets For Raptors?

[ItsDanger]

Thybulle is a compete now target, not a priority in a rebuild to get him, save the minutes for the draft picks.

[RoteSchroder]

Damn Hartenstein is only 25?
Sign me up.

Smith, Claxton, Hartenstein.

In that order.

GET ER DONE BC.

Masai needs to 100% poach players off of the Knicks and Indiana since they'll need to use their cap space to pay OG/Siakam. Jalen Smith and Isaiah Hartenstein are the targets.

Not interested in Claxton, I think Nets will pay him whereas Indiana/Knicks can't really get into a bidding war.

Also trade Bruce Brown to the Knicks for Fournier + assets to further tie up their cap space.

[Appostis]

Damn Hartenstein is only 25?
Sign me up.

Smith, Claxton, Hartenstein.

In that order.

GET ER DONE BC.

Masai needs to 100% poach players off of the Knicks and Indiana since they'll need to use their cap space to pay OG/Siakam. Jalen Smith and Isaiah Hartenstein are the targets.

Not interested in Claxton, I think Nets will pay him whereas Indiana/Knicks can't really get into a bidding war.

Also trade Bruce Brown to the Knicks for Fournier + assets to further tie up their cap space.

You guys gotta stop trying to make Hartenstein a thing. Knicks are real shallow on the bigs front, he's not being traded

[RoteSchroder]

You guys gotta stop trying to make Hartenstein a thing. Knicks are real shallow on the bigs front, he's not being traded

free agent buddy, we can outbid the Knicks in the offseason

[Appostis]

You guys gotta stop trying to make Hartenstein a thing. Knicks are real shallow on the bigs front, he's not being traded

free agent buddy

But people are bringing him up as a trade candidate.

Maybe I'm just misreading..

[DangerZone13]

Just musing, and by no means hard requirements, but I'd love to have a true lob threat, as well as some more toughness/grittiness on the team. Anybody have thoughts on who may provide either or both that would also fit with the young/attainable scale eirher at the TD, draft, or offseason?

Scottie's creativity with a true lob threat would be a lot of fun.

Some added toughness and grit I think would help set more of a tone in the locker room. Darko clearly wants the guys to have fun, but it seems like they could do with an edge as well to balance that.

[twiggy2]

I think we should take on some bad salary with our expiring contracts ,and take on more draft capital.

[CazOnReal]

Just musing, and by no means hard requirements, but I'd love to have a true lob threat, as well as some more toughness/grittiness on the team. Anybody have thoughts on who may provide either or both that would also fit with the young/attainable scale eirher at the TD, draft, or offseason?

Scottie's creativity with a true lob threat would be a lot of fun.

Some added toughness and grit I think would help set more of a tone in the locker room. Darko clearly wants the guys to have fun, but it seems like they could do with an edge as well to balance that.

Trade deadline: No one. Maybe Claxton if those rumors are true but otherwise there is no obvious lob threat to acquire

Draft: Sarr if we get a top 3 pick, otherwise you're betting on Ware to be consistent or Filipowski to hold down the paint while being a stretch 5

Offseason: Claxton once again; Smith is an option for a stretch 5 but while he's not a bad defender, Nic is simply the superior choice

[Mark_83]

According to my calculations we'll have anywhere between $24,217,154 and $46,517,154 depending on whether the cap stays at $136,000,000 or rises by 5-10%; and whether we relinquish Nwora or Porter's cap holds.

I'm also operating under the we exercise Barnes' team option, and extend a qualifying offer to Quickley, and the possibility we don't exercise Brown's option if he's not traded.

We can also increase our cap space by moving any of Boucher (10.8M), Schroeder (13M), or McDaniels (4.7M) without taking back salary, but there's not really anyone available worth throwing max money to anyway.

This doesn't seem right. We should have more than that if we deal Brown and take back an expiring deal and if we don't resign Trent.

Of course we should extend the QO to Quickley and exercise Barnes' option.

Would probably love to get off of McDaniels' money (Hayes for McDaniels), which allows to move off of Schroeder but who knows what we take back. I wouldn't move off of Boucher's money as replacing him is probably going to be more expensive.

(2024-2025)
Barrett $25,794,643
Barnes $10,130,980
Poeltl $19,500,000
Schroeder $13,025,250
Boucher $10,810,000
Dick $4,763,760
McDaniels $4,741,800
Quickley (cap hold) $12,514,644
Nwora (cap hold) $5,700,000
Jontay (cap hold) $1,489,065
Total: $108,470,142

Barnes' salary goes up to 10.1M in 2024.

IQ's cap hold is 300% of his current/previous salary as a first-round pick coming off rookie contract that was below the league average.

Nwora's cap hold is 190% of his current/previous salary as a bird right UFA whose salary was below the league average.

Jontay's cap hold as a two-way player is the equivalent of a one-year veteran’s minimum salary.

Our total if we renounce all our free agents except IQ, Nwora, and Jontay and don't exercise Brown's option is $108,470,142.

The cap will rise anywhere between 0 and 10% its current number of $136,000,000. That would give us about $27,529,858 if the cap doesn't rise and about $41,129,858 if it rises by as much as 10% like the last two post-Covid years.

[douggood]

Damn Hartenstein is only 25?
Sign me up.

Smith, Claxton, Hartenstein.

In that order.

GET ER DONE BC.

Masai needs to 100% poach players off of the Knicks and Indiana since they'll need to use their cap space to pay OG/Siakam. Jalen Smith and Isaiah Hartenstein are the targets.

Not interested in Claxton, I think Nets will pay him whereas Indiana/Knicks can't really get into a bidding war.

Also trade Bruce Brown to the Knicks for Fournier + assets to further tie up their cap space.

You guys gotta stop trying to make Hartenstein a thing. Knicks are real shallow on the bigs front, he's not being traded

hartenstein is an early bird free agent this off season. the MAX the knicks are allowed to sign him is for 4 year $73 mil. probably need closer to 80-85 mil at a minimum to get him out of there.

[Merit]

I am less high on AJ after reading ATL fans comments on him.

This is tea. Do share. It’s my first time hearing anything about him.

Not sure what is being said on these forums but I know there is a lot of "noise" around that family. Although no fault of AJ's, he's not good enough for any team to welcome that drama.

Ah yes. Understood.

[Appostis]

Masai needs to 100% poach players off of the Knicks and Indiana since they'll need to use their cap space to pay OG/Siakam. Jalen Smith and Isaiah Hartenstein are the targets.

Not interested in Claxton, I think Nets will pay him whereas Indiana/Knicks can't really get into a bidding war.

Also trade Bruce Brown to the Knicks for Fournier + assets to further tie up their cap space.

You guys gotta stop trying to make Hartenstein a thing. Knicks are real shallow on the bigs front, he's not being traded

hartenstein is an early bird free agent this off season. the MAX the knicks are allowed to sign him is for 4 year $73 mil. probably need closer to 80-85 mil at a minimum to get him out of there.

My bad.

Was thinking that people were thinking trades this year.

[Ell Curry]

Damn Hartenstein is only 25?
Sign me up.

Smith, Claxton, Hartenstein.

In that order.

GET ER DONE BC.

Masai needs to 100% poach players off of the Knicks and Indiana since they'll need to use their cap space to pay OG/Siakam. Jalen Smith and Isaiah Hartenstein are the targets.

Not interested in Claxton, I think Nets will pay him whereas Indiana/Knicks can't really get into a bidding war.

Also trade Bruce Brown to the Knicks for Fournier + assets to further tie up their cap space.

There really is a lot of sense to the idea of signing Hartenstein (or Claxton) and just moving Poeltl for whatever we can get afterwards. We could bank a late first or okay young player (Moody and GP3?, Holmes and O-Max and Powell) in the Poeltl trade and get 2 years younger at center and I sort of doubt we end up doing any better than with cap room and the money we take on in those situations is done by 2025. Fits a one year tank well enough, we add an asset and get younger at a starting spot.

*(other Poeltl move this summer I could see is Memphis sending us Kennard, Konchar's small but ugly deal and a lottery protected 1st. They save a bit of money and they've found wings who seem to be better than those guys and have a top 10 pick to grab another (and there's not an obvious starting center out there other than Sarr for them in the draft, just a bunch of backups, so they probably end up getting a wing or guard there too).

The only other summer things I could see happening with cap room are, in my order of preference:

Good or at least fun:
-Signing Malik Monk
-Some team like the Bulls wanting cap relief and offering us a late first to take on Lonzo Ball

Acceptable:
1) The Mavs offering us O-Max to take on Holmes and Curry and then I think they can maybe just squeeze in the non-tax MLE and Derrick Jones Jr, maybe requires attaching an army of 2nds and Jaden Hardy to get someone to take on Kleber, which I don't want to be us.

Could be great, could be so bad it's later widely recognized as the first domino in not rebuilding effectively and Barnes asking out in 3-4 years:

2) Zach Lavine is our new starting SG and he costs nothing but #31, Trent, Thad and expiring money (which we get back with a first in a Bruce Brown trade.

Sure I guess:
3) Trent sticks around for like 16M a year. I would also include signing Tyus Jones (I'd prefer that) here, as we're talking about paying 25% over the MLE for a caretaker starter who has to becomes a 3rd guard here in 2-3 years with Quickley and a new starter (or RJ at the 2 and a new starting 3, either of which I think is the 2025 1st rounder) ahead of him.

4) 12M a year or so for Jalen Smith or Fultz.

Probably slightly against it
5) Bruce Brown 2.0
-We offer a 1 year + 1 team option to a guy we think can be useful in trades later or at least recoup 2nds and an expiring for at the deadline, but the pickings are thin, apart from say us having 30M in cap room and offering Buddy Hield something crazy like 55M over 2 years but it's a 1+1 and we probably end up moving him at next year's deadline.

6) Big RFA offer for Pat Williams
-No idea if he's good, seems asleep to me during games so I kinda doubt it, but he can shoot the 3 and decent Stocks numbers and at 22 that's not bad, so maybe he becomes a solid starter and maybe Chicago doesn't match.

[CazOnReal]

Zach LaVine is getting yet another surgery to his lower body.

F*ck to the no in wanting anything to do with his contract. Say what you will about Wiggins bad contract, I can at least be talked in to him salvaging his value and returning to something of his All-Star form. LaVine is a ticking time bomb and frankly, I think any team that trades for him needs to be given a pick or some form of compensation, not giving up picks to acquire him.

[MoneyBall]

I want Caxton.

[Karanpal]

Cam Thomas

[Rapsfan07]

According to my calculations we'll have anywhere between $24,217,154 and $46,517,154 depending on whether the cap stays at $136,000,000 or rises by 5-10%; and whether we relinquish Nwora or Porter's cap holds.

I'm also operating under the we exercise Barnes' team option, and extend a qualifying offer to Quickley, and the possibility we don't exercise Brown's option if he's not traded.

We can also increase our cap space by moving any of Boucher (10.8M), Schroeder (13M), or McDaniels (4.7M) without taking back salary, but there's not really anyone available worth throwing max money to anyway.

This doesn't seem right. We should have more than that if we deal Brown and take back an expiring deal and if we don't resign Trent.

Of course we should extend the QO to Quickley and exercise Barnes' option.

Would probably love to get off of McDaniels' money (Hayes for McDaniels), which allows to move off of Schroeder but who knows what we take back. I wouldn't move off of Boucher's money as replacing him is probably going to be more expensive.

(2024-2025)
Barrett $25,794,643
Barnes $10,130,980
Poeltl $19,500,000
Schroeder $13,025,250
Boucher $10,810,000
Dick $4,763,760
McDaniels $4,741,800
Quickley (cap hold) $12,514,644
Nwora (cap hold) $5,700,000
Jontay (cap hold) $1,489,065
Total: $108,470,142

Barnes' salary goes up to 10.1M in 2024.

IQ's cap hold is 300% of his current/previous salary as a first-round pick coming off rookie contract that was below the league average.

Nwora's cap hold is 190% of his current/previous salary as a bird right UFA whose salary was below the league average.

Jontay's cap hold as a two-way player is the equivalent of a one-year veteran’s minimum salary.

Our total if we renounce all our free agents except IQ, Nwora, and Jontay and don't exercise Brown's option is $108,470,142.

The cap will rise anywhere between 0 and 10% its current number of $136,000,000. That would give us about $27,529,858 if the cap doesn't rise and about $41,129,858 if it rises by as much as 10% like the last two post-Covid years.

Thank you for this.

Well, there's obviously quite a difference between 0% and 10% so we'll have to wait and see what the number ends up being but right off the rip, it does seem to make sense that we look to move off of Poeltl if we can find a suitable and preferably cheaper replacement. Might also make some sense to move off off Schroeder as he should have a ton of interest.

If there's anything to that Killian Hayes rumor, I think swapping him for McDaniels makes sense as well. We get off of McDaniels final year and get a look at Hayes for half a season.

I've said this before in other threads but I think Poeltl to OKC for a 2025 FRP, Bertans and maybe a minor asset of theirs would be really good for both teams. If we keep our pick this year, we'll definitely conveying it next year so this ensures we aren't without a pick in 2025 while also clearing Poeltl's future money off our books. I think something around Schroeder for WCJ fixes our future C probably cheaply and is a little cheaper in the future but not much. Sign Biyombo for the rest of the season as well. Brown to NYK for Grimes and Fournier shaves another $19M of future money off while getting us another asset. That should easily bring us to over $50M in money for free agents.

Then you go to the draft as see what happens. You sign your rookies and then use the remaining capspace on some vets

[Chalky_White]

My top UFA target is Jalen Smith from Indiana. He's a 23-yearold stretch-4 putting up really good numbers off the bench in only 18 minutes per game (10.7pts 5.7reb shooting 47.6% from three)

He's not a free agent officially but he has a player option which he almost certainly will exercise. The Pacers would have to choose between paying Pascal and him depending on his ask.

He's a really great fit with our young core going forward. Both the spacing and rim protection we need. Even if they keep Poeltl he'd be a great option to give a different look and would likely finish most games.

Selfishly hoping his market dries up and he's available for something close to the MLE, around 50-60mil over 4 years.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm gonna throw another name out there that most of y'all probably don't pay much attention to - Trendon Watford.

UFA - and could be the steal of free agency.