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Needed him last night. Could’ve tombstoned Reeves
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The KnicksFix wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:It was actually impressive how we hung in this game. We were off from 3, undermanned, going against a team that’s been playing well, battling the Steven A curse.
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I can’t stand him. All he does is yell into the tv and scream. He’s a clown and one of the worst beat reporters on TV
Reign23 wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:In regards to Harts contract….he opted into his contract and played at a discount this year so we could sign Donte. You have to factor that into his extension. It might be a little high. We probably could get similiar production at a cheaper cost but the chemistry is tough to replace.
All the Nova guys have helped establish the identity we are seeing now. Like an infinity stone, everytime we add a Nova guy we seem to get better. Hard to put a price on that.
Hart is the glue of the team. He's a true connector.
He provides a lot on the court with the exception of shooting.
And he really reinforces the identity of the team. I think you take both him and Mitch out and the team loses its edge entirely.
agree with most of your statement, but I think the team now proved on more than one occation that Mitch can relatively easy be replaced. I don't have a problem with Hart not beeing a floor spacer. he does a lot of things well, like you've stated. At some point in the playoffs it is going to be a problem that you don't have spacing from the 4 and 5 in addition to him.

8516knicks wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:In regards to Harts contract….he opted into his contract and played at a discount this year so we could sign Donte. You have to factor that into his extension. It might be a little high. We probably could get similiar production at a cheaper cost but the chemistry is tough to replace.
All the Nova guys have helped establish the identity we are seeing now. Like an infinity stone, everytime we add a Nova guy we seem to get better. Hard to put a price on that.
Hart is great for what he brings WHEN all the other team functions are properly filled.
He's an energy guy, tough elite guard rebounder, drives the ball.
He's NOT supposed to be a 3 pt sniper. He's not supposed be a full time starter but get starter minutes as a 2nd unity guy who bridges the first unit when there's and injury. A 6th man and a good one.
An injury, as in ONE injury, NOT THREE or FOUR (OG, Mitch, Randle, Grimes). He's 6'4" and double doubles. When we have competent fill ins elsewhere also he shines.
cgmw wrote:We lose 1 out of 10, every Knick fan does a quick mental inventory confirming that we still own a pitchfork back there someplace.

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:In regards to Harts contract….he opted into his contract and played at a discount this year so we could sign Donte. You have to factor that into his extension. It might be a little high. We probably could get similiar production at a cheaper cost but the chemistry is tough to replace.
All the Nova guys have helped establish the identity we are seeing now. Like an infinity stone, everytime we add a Nova guy we seem to get better. Hard to put a price on that.
Hart is the glue of the team. He's a true connector.
He provides a lot on the court with the exception of shooting.
And he really reinforces the identity of the team. I think you take both him and Mitch out and the team loses its edge entirely.
F N 11 wrote:Starting to wonder how Josh Hart got that money to be a rebounder / sometimes defender and irrelevant in half court. Down mad heads and he refuse to be aggressive.

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:In regards to Harts contract….he opted into his contract and played at a discount this year so we could sign Donte. You have to factor that into his extension. It might be a little high. We probably could get similiar production at a cheaper cost but the chemistry is tough to replace.
All the Nova guys have helped establish the identity we are seeing now. Like an infinity stone, everytime we add a Nova guy we seem to get better. Hard to put a price on that.
Hart is the glue of the team. He's a true connector.
He provides a lot on the court with the exception of shooting.
And he really reinforces the identity of the team. I think you take both him and Mitch out and the team loses its edge entirely.
We have a bunch of really good glue and connector players and Hart is one. They all play different roles and parts, and have different strengths and weakness’s.
Harts got a great motor, a one man fast break and is elite on the boards for his position. Moves the ball well, and is aways in constant motion. The shooting can really hurt though. It becomes more glaring with the injuries and games like this. He is much better as an energy guy off the bench that we can sub in and out as needed
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:It was actually impressive how we hung in this game. We were off from 3, undermanned, going against a team that’s been playing well, battling the Steven A curse.
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I can’t stand him. All he does is yell into the tv and scream. He’s a clown and one of the worst beat reporters on TV
Yea, he plays the part of an over the top stereotypical Knicks fan for attention and ends up making us look bad.
Chanel Bomber wrote:Reign23 wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Hart is the glue of the team. He's a true connector.
He provides a lot on the court with the exception of shooting.
And he really reinforces the identity of the team. I think you take both him and Mitch out and the team loses its edge entirely.
agree with most of your statement, but I think the team now proved on more than one occation that Mitch can relatively easy be replaced. I don't have a problem with Hart not beeing a floor spacer. he does a lot of things well, like you've stated. At some point in the playoffs it is going to be a problem that you don't have spacing from the 4 and 5 in addition to him.
I don't think Mitch can "easily" be replaced. One could make the case that iHart should start and that's fine. But it will be extremely hard to find somebody who can provide the elite defense and rebounding that Mitch provides for a reasonable price. iHart is not going to play 48 minutes a game if you keep him.
Harteinstein is a quality center who we signed for a bargain contract. He's arguably the best back-up center in the whole league and would probably start for half the teams in the league. That's why we didn't see a significant drop-off from the center position when Mitch got hurt. They bring different qualities/weaknesses but they're pretty much on the same level. It's a nice luxury to have. They're both expandable in the right deal.
Reign23 wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:In regards to Harts contract….he opted into his contract and played at a discount this year so we could sign Donte. You have to factor that into his extension. It might be a little high. We probably could get similiar production at a cheaper cost but the chemistry is tough to replace.
All the Nova guys have helped establish the identity we are seeing now. Like an infinity stone, everytime we add a Nova guy we seem to get better. Hard to put a price on that.
Hart is the glue of the team. He's a true connector.
He provides a lot on the court with the exception of shooting.
And he really reinforces the identity of the team. I think you take both him and Mitch out and the team loses its edge entirely.
agree with most of your statement, but I think the team now proved on more than one occation that Mitch can relatively easy be replaced. I don't have a problem with Hart not beeing a floor spacer. he does a lot of things well, like you've stated. At some point in the playoffs it is going to be a problem that you don't have spacing from the 4 and 5 in addition to him.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:You can like Hart, at the end of the day passing up wide open threes to drive and kick ot shoot fades is a problem, and it became a problem against the Heat that all the glue guy hustle stuff couldn't make up for. This is the best offensive rebounding team in the NBA, just shoot the **** ball and live with the results, driving in to take a contested 2 after passing up an open three is just idiotic.
He was 2-6 from three last night and 3-10 from 2, I would have rather he finished the game 2-12 from three if it meant passing up on those dumb fades.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:You can like Hart, at the end of the day passing up wide open threes to drive and kick ot shoot fades is a problem, and it became a problem against the Heat that all the glue guy hustle stuff couldn't make up for. This is the best offensive rebounding team in the NBA, just shoot the **** ball and live with the results, driving in to take a contested 2 after passing up an open three is just idiotic.
He was 2-6 from three last night and 3-10 from 2, I would have rather he finished the game 2-12 from three if it meant passing up on those dumb fades.
