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Post#1061 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:22 pm

My new dream is the Raptors draft Bronny at 31. keep him at all costs, and then have zero interest and do not sign or trade for Lebron.
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Post#1062 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:56 pm

Brinbe wrote:Dillingham has a lot of IQ in his game. The shot creation/shooting is obviously good and he can pass but it'll be interesting to see if how he faces/handles the similar problem as IQ has of trying to constantly get that shot off inside against much bigger/more athletic competition when he's small and doesn't have the super elite athleticism at the rim as other smaller guards.

And that's not a knock on IQ, he was SEC player of the year.


Dillingham is probably in the top 5 of guys I'd want with the ball in their hands in the clutch in D1. He performs well under pressure and can hit big time shots. Has a true shooter's mentality as he can have a bad game and then just pop off when the team needs him later in the game, doesn't have any confidence issues whatsoever.
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Post#1063 » by TheFutureMM » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:15 pm

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Reminds me a bit of Hedo Turkoglu. See shades of Kuzma there too.

Mid-first round I wouldn't hate but the way this draft is structured he's probably gone somewhere between 8-12.
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Post#1064 » by Brinbe » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:40 pm

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Brinbe wrote:Dillingham has a lot of IQ in his game. The shot creation/shooting is obviously good and he can pass but it'll be interesting to see if how he faces/handles the similar problem as IQ has of trying to constantly get that shot off inside against much bigger/more athletic competition when he's small and doesn't have the super elite athleticism at the rim as other smaller guards.

And that's not a knock on IQ, he was SEC player of the year.


Dillingham is probably in the top 5 of guys I'd want with the ball in their hands in the clutch in D1. He performs well under pressure and can hit big time shots. Has a true shooter's mentality as he can have a bad game and then just pop off when the team needs him later in the game, doesn't have any confidence issues whatsoever.

He's a great scorer, no doubt about that. Anyone that can fill it up like that in 27 mins of time against a top 5 ranked team has to have some major scoring ability.

But it's more about wondering how far that goes on the next level and how he'd adjust against bigger/stronger/longer athletes and do you run into the trae young problem where he gives it all away on the other end because he's so small?

Could you run a Dillingham/IQ or RJ backcourt?
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Post#1065 » by JShuttlesworth » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:49 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:My new dream is the Raptors draft Bronny at 31. keep him at all costs, and then have zero interest and do not sign or trade for Lebron.


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Post#1066 » by Mark_83 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:56 pm

I was never really on Knecht so yesterday's underwhelming performance didn't really change much for me.

Gonna be an interesting call if Dillingham is the BPA at our pick. I believe RD is a better prospect than IQ was but there's some endowment effect here with us having traded for IQ to consider.

Last night's lines:

Tyler Smith 22pts 5reb 2ast 2blk 8-12, 4-7(3pt)
Ke'lel Ware 25pts 11reb 1blk 8-12, 1-2(3pt)
Jared McCain 23pts 11reb 2stl 9-18, 2-6(3pt)
Hunter Sallis 24pts 3reb 5ast 7-9, 4-5(3pt)
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Post#1067 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:22 pm

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Gonna be an interesting call if Dillingham is the BPA at our pick. I believe RD is a better prospect than IQ was but there's some endowment effect here with us having traded for IQ to consider.



I don't think we'd worry about that too much. Dillingham wouldn't be ready for 30+ minutes a game right away anyway, so you keep them both on the roster for at least a couple of years, staggering their minutes as much as possible, but giving them some time together to see if it would work, and by the time (maybe year 3?) you need to give them each 34-35 minutes a game, you can make a determination then if they can work together or not.

If not, then you're in the Knicks situation of not wanting to pay starters money for two guys who have a hard time sharing the floor, but that's still a couple years down the road, and even then they would probably have excellent trade value, just like Quickley did for the Knicks.
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Post#1068 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:22 pm

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Brinbe wrote:Dillingham has a lot of IQ in his game. The shot creation/shooting is obviously good and he can pass but it'll be interesting to see if how he faces/handles the similar problem as IQ has of trying to constantly get that shot off inside against much bigger/more athletic competition when he's small and doesn't have the super elite athleticism at the rim as other smaller guards.

And that's not a knock on IQ, he was SEC player of the year.


Dillingham is probably in the top 5 of guys I'd want with the ball in their hands in the clutch in D1. He performs well under pressure and can hit big time shots. Has a true shooter's mentality as he can have a bad game and then just pop off when the team needs him later in the game, doesn't have any confidence issues whatsoever.

He's a great scorer, no doubt about that. Anyone that can fill it up like that in 27 mins of time against a top 5 ranked team has to have some major scoring ability.

But it's more about wondering how far that goes on the next level and how he'd adjust against bigger/stronger/longer athletes and do you run into the trae young problem where he gives it all away on the other end because he's so small?

Could you run a Dillingham/IQ or RJ backcourt?


Not sure Dillingham is a guy you want hijacking the ball because his ability to draw contact or suck in a defense then dish the ball are unworthy of a guy with such a high USG rate. He's a capable passer but I have to wonder if his assist totals aren't a little boosted because of Sheppard and Reeves being high efficiency shot makers but overall I think his floor is high enough to justify an end of lottery pick as a first-off-the-bench guard. If you envision him as a starter you'll have to envision him deferring to his teammates more. I can see a few similarities between him and Quickley but he's a much higher USG player and I'm not sure his defense will even be at the same level although he's more explosive and can create more separation to create for himself on the offensive end.
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Post#1069 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:26 pm

Player comps are always tricky, but I've been trying to come up with a good player comp for Sarr. Would a young Ibaka be close?

Excellent mobile defensive players and shotblockers, the makings of an outside shot but not one you can count on yet, and slightly underwhelming rebounding for someone of that athletic profile.

Sarr's shot is probably a bit further along than Ibaka's was at the same age, but his rebounding is worse. But I definitely see some similarities. Anyone else see some of young Ibaka in Sarr's game?
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Post#1070 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:34 pm

I'm a Vol fan and I see Knecht's likely potential as being a good scorer off the bench and there's absolutely value for a contender to get him late in the first and have a cheap rotational piece off the bench.
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Post#1071 » by Brinbe » Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:45 pm

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Dillingham is probably in the top 5 of guys I'd want with the ball in their hands in the clutch in D1. He performs well under pressure and can hit big time shots. Has a true shooter's mentality as he can have a bad game and then just pop off when the team needs him later in the game, doesn't have any confidence issues whatsoever.

He's a great scorer, no doubt about that. Anyone that can fill it up like that in 27 mins of time against a top 5 ranked team has to have some major scoring ability.

But it's more about wondering how far that goes on the next level and how he'd adjust against bigger/stronger/longer athletes and do you run into the trae young problem where he gives it all away on the other end because he's so small?

Could you run a Dillingham/IQ or RJ backcourt?


Not sure Dillingham is a guy you want hijacking the ball because his ability to draw contact or suck in a defense then dish the ball are unworthy of a guy with such a high USG rate. He's a capable passer but I have to wonder if his assist totals aren't a little boosted because of Sheppard and Reeves being high efficiency shot makers but overall I think his floor is high enough to justify an end of lottery pick as a first-off-the-bench guard. If you envision him as a starter you'll have to envision him deferring to his teammates more. I can see a few similarities between him and Quickley but he's a much higher USG player and I'm not sure his defense will even be at the same level although he's more explosive and can create more separation to create for himself on the offensive end.

Very fair assessment/nuanced evaluation and I think that applies to a lot of players in this draft.

Right team, right role will determine a lot and even then you never know. Of course that's most players in every draft but moreso when there's clear no slam dunk prospects.
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Post#1072 » by Dalek » Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:21 pm

Kyshawn George shows a strong two-way game that is beyond a lot of freshmen.

Shooting over 40% from three on five attempts over the last ten games, and 60% from the floor. Could have better assist to turnover numbers but really growing as a player. Doing stuff like this at 20 at 6'8" is probably going to be a first, possibly he stays for another year, but I see some Cam Johnson in him.

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Post#1073 » by Rapsfan07 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:43 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:Player comps are always tricky, but I've been trying to come up with a good player comp for Sarr. Would a young Ibaka be close?

Excellent mobile defensive players and shotblockers, the makings of an outside shot but not one you can count on yet, and slightly underwhelming rebounding for someone of that athletic profile.

Sarr's shot is probably a bit further along than Ibaka's was at the same age, but his rebounding is worse. But I definitely see some similarities. Anyone else see some of young Ibaka in Sarr's game?


Ibaka is not a horrible comp actually.
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Post#1074 » by Rapsfan07 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:56 pm

Mark_83 wrote:I was never really on Knecht so yesterday's underwhelming performance didn't really change much for me.

Gonna be an interesting call if Dillingham is the BPA at our pick. I believe RD is a better prospect than IQ was but there's some endowment effect here with us having traded for IQ to consider.

Last night's lines:

Tyler Smith 22pts 5reb 2ast 2blk 8-12, 4-7(3pt)
Ke'lel Ware 25pts 11reb 1blk 8-12, 1-2(3pt)
Jared McCain 23pts 11reb 2stl 9-18, 2-6(3pt)
Hunter Sallis 24pts 3reb 5ast 7-9, 4-5(3pt)


Really should be avoiding Knecht tbh. IMO there are much better prospects available than him at all of our picks.

I like Ware with the Indiana pick if he's still on the board. It's been a while since we've had a legit center prospect to develop.
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Post#1075 » by Mark_83 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:02 pm

Mark_83 wrote:I was never really on Knecht so yesterday's underwhelming performance didn't really change much for me.

Gonna be an interesting call if Dillingham is the BPA at our pick. I believe RD is a better prospect than IQ was but there's some endowment effect here with us having traded for IQ to consider.

Last night's lines:

Tyler Smith 22pts 5reb 2ast 2blk 8-12, 4-7(3pt)
Ke'lel Ware 25pts 11reb 1blk 8-12, 1-2(3pt)
Jared McCain 23pts 11reb 2stl 9-18, 2-6(3pt)
Hunter Sallis 24pts 3reb 5ast 7-9, 4-5(3pt)








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Post#1076 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:17 pm

Jakobe Walter now shooting 30.5% against conference opponents, 24.4% from deep.
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Post#1077 » by bballsparkin » Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:23 pm

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Reminds me a bit of Hedo Turkoglu. See shades of Kuzma there too.

Mid-first round I wouldn't hate but the way this draft is structured he's probably gone somewhere between 8-12.


If Kuzma ever put that much effort on defence I would like his game much more.
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Post#1078 » by Public_Enemy101 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 7:36 pm

Zach Edey should be on the top of Masai’s list. We need a center and he’s been playing well for Purdue. Plus he’s Canadian.

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Post#1080 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 8:08 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:Player comps are always tricky, but I've been trying to come up with a good player comp for Sarr. Would a young Ibaka be close?

Excellent mobile defensive players and shotblockers, the makings of an outside shot but not one you can count on yet, and slightly underwhelming rebounding for someone of that athletic profile.

Sarr's shot is probably a bit further along than Ibaka's was at the same age, but his rebounding is worse. But I definitely see some similarities. Anyone else see some of young Ibaka in Sarr's game?


I see Pacers Jermaine O'neal with a 3 point jumpshot
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