PG: Pylon Defense

[Duffman100]

Cool got it, so on a basketball discussion forum we are not to discuss anything that isn't present day? The trades aren't even a month old, but it's just bitching?

People throw out blame like "Well YOU asked for this" and it's bitching to qualify it by saying no one asked for this crap? Or that "people can't handle a rebuild" but nah, it's bitching when you try and explain that this is a terrible way to approach a rebuild, and that's why people aren't happy with it?

Should we just have threads auto lock after 24 hours so nothing in the past gets discussed? Be somewhat reasonable. We're arguably 2 weeks into the actual rebuild, stop acting like this is year 2 and people are complaining.

When it’s all you do constantly. Yeah it’s fair to ask you to stop. I warned you about this not long ago.

I may not agree with everything said but what I see are people not necessarily being negative but rather giving just views on the Raptors' negative situation, and venting it out of frustration. What I also see is these opinions are annoying those who have defended the FO because it's turning out that those "negative" views have mostly been prophetic (or what Cynic said).

I agree at some point we all have to move on, but 2 weeks from trading Siakam is not yet that time. Finally doing too late what others have been screaming for the FO to do, does not right past wrongs & people are rightly voicing their dissenting opinions.

Sports fan forums are where people go to express their views, including frustrations. Nothing wrong with that. What you see as being negative views, others see as being realistic. And, with due respect, as much as those who are aggravated by people complaining, I see those complaining about the complainers to be equally aggravating & sometimes patronizing.

And I haven’t warned or banned anyone. But just highlighted for a select group of posters that they’re approaching that line. And the history of their posting goes long before the situation.

If a poster presence here is primarily to post negative things, constantly, they’re going to get warned.

Right.

A posters presence isn't deemed by you. You can interpret stuff all you like, but until you reside in someone elses head, you don't get to make decisions based on your feels. My "presence" here is to discuss the team, both positives and negatives. Feel free to swing by the Scottie thread and point out all the negativity there from this supposed "select group". The reality of the team is being discussed, not negativity.

This team has very few positives going for it, so it stands to reason that the less than sunshine aspects get more discussion time.

Numerous people in here are clearly discussing negative aspects of the team, and its current state. Numerous people here seem to also have the ability to understand the reasoning behind it, instead of just giving it the blanket statement "spamming negativity".

One would assume that the posters wouldn't have to be the people doing that, and it should be the mods.

As Cynic said, the people complaining about the negativity, are the people who were wrong, and defended the FO. But now that it's apparent that things are contrary to what they thought for so long, it's time to take their ball and go home.

And quite frankly, as a mod here, I expect you not to be one of those. "People can't handle a rebuild". Please do tell, what did you think was going to be the result of you making that statement, besides being antagonistic? Or claiming people have a "victim complex" and what they are doing is "sad".

Want people to be better? Lead by example. Or I dunno, perma ban everyone who dissents cause it's easier, whatever works I guess, echo chambers can be fun too.

I guess you got me. I can’t possibly lead by example.

So echo chamber it is!

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When it’s all you do constantly. Yeah it’s fair to ask you to stop. I warned you about this not long ago.

And I haven’t warned or banned anyone. But just highlighted for a select group of posters that they’re approaching that line. And the history of their posting goes long before the situation.

If a poster presence here is primarily to post negative things, constantly, they’re going to get warned.

Right.

A posters presence isn't deemed by you. You can interpret stuff all you like, but until you reside in someone elses head, you don't get to make decisions based on your feels. My "presence" here is to discuss the team, both positives and negatives. Feel free to swing by the Scottie thread and point out all the negativity there from this supposed "select group". The reality of the team is being discussed, not negativity.

This team has very few positives going for it, so it stands to reason that the less than sunshine aspects get more discussion time.

Numerous people in here are clearly discussing negative aspects of the team, and its current state. Numerous people here seem to also have the ability to understand the reasoning behind it, instead of just giving it the blanket statement "spamming negativity".

One would assume that the posters wouldn't have to be the people doing that, and it should be the mods.

As Cynic said, the people complaining about the negativity, are the people who were wrong, and defended the FO. But now that it's apparent that things are contrary to what they thought for so long, it's time to take their ball and go home.

And quite frankly, as a mod here, I expect you not to be one of those. "People can't handle a rebuild". Please do tell, what did you think was going to be the result of you making that statement, besides being antagonistic? Or claiming people have a "victim complex" and what they are doing is "sad".

Want people to be better? Lead by example. Or I dunno, perma ban everyone who dissents cause it's easier, whatever works I guess, echo chambers can be fun too.

I guess you got me. I can’t possibly lead by example.

So echo chamber it is!

So doubling down with sarcasm instead of addressing the actual points?

[Duffman100]

Right.

A posters presence isn't deemed by you. You can interpret stuff all you like, but until you reside in someone elses head, you don't get to make decisions based on your feels. My "presence" here is to discuss the team, both positives and negatives. Feel free to swing by the Scottie thread and point out all the negativity there from this supposed "select group". The reality of the team is being discussed, not negativity.

This team has very few positives going for it, so it stands to reason that the less than sunshine aspects get more discussion time.

Numerous people in here are clearly discussing negative aspects of the team, and its current state. Numerous people here seem to also have the ability to understand the reasoning behind it, instead of just giving it the blanket statement "spamming negativity".

One would assume that the posters wouldn't have to be the people doing that, and it should be the mods.

As Cynic said, the people complaining about the negativity, are the people who were wrong, and defended the FO. But now that it's apparent that things are contrary to what they thought for so long, it's time to take their ball and go home.

And quite frankly, as a mod here, I expect you not to be one of those. "People can't handle a rebuild". Please do tell, what did you think was going to be the result of you making that statement, besides being antagonistic? Or claiming people have a "victim complex" and what they are doing is "sad".

Want people to be better? Lead by example. Or I dunno, perma ban everyone who dissents cause it's easier, whatever works I guess, echo chambers can be fun too.

I guess you got me. I can’t possibly lead by example.

So echo chamber it is!

So doubling down with sarcasm instead of addressing the actual points?

I didn’t actually read it. The more you tell me I’m a bad mod, the more I’m actually convinced I’m a good one.

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I guess you got me. I can’t possibly lead by example.

So echo chamber it is!

So doubling down with sarcasm instead of addressing the actual points?

I didn’t actually read it. The more you tell me I’m a bad mod, the more I’m actually convinced I’m a good one.

Yeah instead we had the side that was wrong, preach about their greatness and they all ended up being wrong. Sounds more like a dictatorship where you have to agree with those in power or you will feel their mod wrath. It has been heaaaaaaavilllllyyyy skewed who gets warnings even if it's simply a viewpoint. It has been funny though to watch how wrong those people have been about this team and where we are. Hey, people are whining that we suck. Well, yeah, we do suck.

Here's a thought? You're on an online forum that discusses a sports team that will have ups and downs. Maybe don't do on these forums if you can't take *gasps* differing views from differing viewpoints?And then don't double down on it when your higher than thou attitude simply lead to the other view being correct and you being wrong? This isn't some positivity therapy board. It's a board about feaking sports and it will always be like this wherever you visit.

It's now a propaganda forum. The rule spells it our clearly and so does this chain of posts. Fall in line with the narrative or leave.

Lol. The victim complex is just played out and sad.

[agkagk]

Brown went into business for himself tonight. Some matador d coupled with literally standing around on d and staring at the spot in the half court where he expected the dribble penetration and just smirked and let them drive to the paint.

We yoyo scottie around too much. Its impressive how well hes doing.

One game hes tasked with being og and magic johnson, the next giannis.


Regsrding the constant personnel changes; when scotties not familiar with the tendencies/chemistry of the rotating lineup, first thing to go when hes uncomfortable is his 3 pt shot.

Really is remarkable how hes handling the sheer magnitude of responsibilities weve put on hm at such a young age.


Reminds me of young lebron, but in a poor man’s way (still a huge compliment)!

Y’all see how fast browns ass found itself on the bench tonight.

The veteran showed up barnes leadership with that display.