Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas -Trade Deadline Thursday 2 pm CT

ShootingtheJ · Post #1701 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:39 am

Horst really should have signed a big to one of our open 2 way spots. Giving even a few minutes to Robin is laughable.

Badgerlander · Post #1702 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:53 am

We’ve gone from Dejonte to Grant Williams. Sure Grant is a good smart defender but I am curious what is up with his slight shooting decline the last two years despite playing alongside the gravity of Luka this year. But regardless if we have the assets to sniff Murray then lets shoot for two way players before we throw too much cap at role players. We desperately need an upgrade at guard and we have nothing behind Middleton or Brook.

Ron Swanson · Post #1703 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:55 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Big difference between guys that stand in the corner like Williams, and guys like Caruso, Wright, and Dunn that can handle the ball and pass, but still shoot as well as Williams.

No, there really isn't. You saw how useless a guy like Kris Dunn was on offense tonight despite the fake "40% 3PT shooter" label. Caruso, Wright, Grant Williams, Matisse Thybulle. They're all dudes that you just hope will make enough open shots to not be a complete offensive liability.

Lol, the nights they miss they're fake, sure, just like Dame was useless tonight too.

The difference between Dunn and Dame tonight was Dunn defended.

Other nights, they both hit 3s.

Yeah, Kris Dunn is basically Dame when he statistically hits that one 3-pointer every 2-games. Sure.

Post #1704 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:27 am

How is the trade deadline this week already

randy84 · Post #1705 » by **randy84** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:30 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Big difference between guys that stand in the corner like Williams, and guys like Caruso, Wright, and Dunn that can handle the ball and pass, but still shoot as well as Williams.

No, there really isn't. You saw how useless a guy like Kris Dunn was on offense tonight despite the fake "40% 3PT shooter" label. Caruso, Wright, Grant Williams, Matisse Thybulle. They're all dudes that you just hope will make enough open shots to not be a complete offensive liability.

Lol, the nights they miss they're fake, sure, just like Dame was useless tonight too.

The difference between Dunn and Dame tonight was Dunn defended.

Other nights, they both hit 3s.

This comparison reminds me of this:

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yb90 · Post #1706 » by **yb90** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:37 am

Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
No, there really isn't. You saw how useless a guy like Kris Dunn was on offense tonight despite the fake "40% 3PT shooter" label. Caruso, Wright, Grant Williams, Matisse Thybulle. They're all dudes that you just hope will make enough open shots to not be a complete offensive liability.

Lol, the nights they miss they're fake, sure, just like Dame was useless tonight too.

The difference between Dunn and Dame tonight was Dunn defended.

Other nights, they both hit 3s.

Yeah, Kris Dunn is basically Dame when he statistically hits that one 3-pointer every 2-games. Sure.

I agree with you for the most part but I think Williams is being slighted some. He is a good defender and shoots it at a decent volume for a role player. He is probably closer to P.J. Tucker than most will admit. Tucker wasn't even in the league at this point in his career and didn't shoot it at as well. Offensively, he is closer to prime Jae as a spot up shooter Giving him up for Portis would be dumb but he is a useful piece. He is young enough that I'd give up Marjon and Pat for him but hope Crowder and Pat would suffice. If they want Portis they would need to include Jones in the deal and I doubt they'd do that.

Jez2983 · Post #1707 » by **Jez2983** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 7:49 am

ReasonablySober wrote:How is the trade deadline this week already

Because we are old and time is compressing

drone3 · Post #1708 » by **drone3** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 8:01 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Horst really should have signed a big to one of our open 2 way spots. Giving even a few minutes to Robin is laughable.

Don't we have Bolden

RiotPunch · Post #1709 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 8:03 am

Bones for a late-night PP25 special:

MKE: Brogdon, Reath
HOU: Portis, Connaughton
PDX: Landale, Green, future protected 1st via Houston

Houston got Adams for next season, but they still need a backup center right now.

Fotis St · Post #1710 » by **Fotis St** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 10:51 am

Frequently Checking in for a Brook trade.
I hope he is out for "personal reasons" cause a trade is already in place.

JayMKE · Post #1711 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 10:59 am

I just don't think Grant Williams is that great or the type of defender we're looking for while chucking a bad %, if we're talking about what guys did in previous playoffs then I guess we're good with Pat Connaughton now. Pat is still in Milwaukee meanwhile Boston dumped Grant & looks even better.

I'm not enthusiastic about the idea of multiple 1 way players trying to compensate for the other's shortcomings, leads to not so good offense or defense.

BroncoBuck · Post #1712 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:24 pm

Horst’s Craigslist post

Have: lots of bad players
Looking for: good players

Call me at Four1Four-***-****

Serious Inquiries Only

ShootingtheJ · Post #1713 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:24 pm

drone3 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Horst really should have signed a big to one of our open 2 way spots. Giving even a few minutes to Robin is laughable.
Don't we have Bolden

Bolden and Wiggington were cut weeks ago, and no replacements have been signed.

Badgerlander · Post #1714 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:43 pm

drone3 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Horst really should have signed a big to one of our open 2 way spots. Giving even a few minutes to Robin is laughable.
Don't we have Bolden

No we dumped his 3 way before it became guaranteed. It’s just weird that we let Queta, Garuba, Robinson-Earl, and even Jontay Porter and Lofton Jr all slip thru the cracks in an area of obvious need

Badgerlander · Post #1715 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:46 pm

Why not grab KJ Martin instead of Grant Williams?

ShootingtheJ · Post #1716 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:13 pm

If we dealt Portis for Grant Williams and draft compensation, first thing I'd do is call Ainge. He loves his former draft picks. Offer him for impending FA Olynyk.

yannisk · Post #1717 » by **yannisk** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:31 pm

I don't think Grant Williams is the answer to our problems, I think I prefer Portis (and I can't wait for Portis to be traded)

Frank Nova · Post #1718 » by **Frank Nova** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:05 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Why not grab KJ Martin instead of Grant Williams?

Is he just in Nurses dog house or something? Even as depleted as Philly has been recently he’s just not getting much run. Or is he hurt? We definitely could use a physical athlete like him.

Badgerlander · Post #1719 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:11 pm

Trade deadline is all about finding those margin players that are going to outperform their contract. Bruce Brown outplayed his $6.5mil contract for Denver but now is a negative asset at $22 mil. Grant Williams is a negative asset at $12.5mil, he will never eclipse its value. Bobby for what he is is on a value contract. You don’t give away size for undersized role players

Badgerlander · Post #1720 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:14 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:Why not grab KJ Martin instead of Grant Williams?

Is he just in Nurses dog house or something? Even as depleted as Philly has been recently he’s just not getting much run. Or is he hurt? We definitely could use a physical athlete like him.

Sixers are shopping him for a second round pick because they don’t have playing time for him and aren’t going to resign him