76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[the_process]

If it's a transition year or a semi-tank year, I want to acquire some players we can develop, similar to how the Warriors developed Wiggins and Poole. One player I'm considering is Jonathan Isaac; he could alleviate Embiid's defensive responsibilities. The downside is his health, but as they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Another player to consider is Brice Sensabaugh. He just needs playing time, and he's poised to blossom like my previous picks such as Franz Wagner, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray, and Cam Thomas.

I'm not overly focused on centers; I believe we can address that in the offseason. To begin, Hartenstein is one player who could be signed to a contract similar to Paul Reed's.

This is exactly what they should be doing. Buried rookies, underused vets, vets who are slumping but still in prime age. Guys who have the physical attributes but whose stats aren't yet measuring up.

[Jailblazers7]

Jonathan Issac is 26 years old & has played a whopping 77 games since 2019. He’s not a basketball player with some injury concerns, he’s a medical patient who likes to shoot hoops.

[Stanford]

Do the Warriors still hate Kuminga? Maybe he's a good option to take a swing on.

[Negrodamus]

Id try to do a Tobias + Melton for Lowry + PJ Washington trade but it appears the only way Lowry can be traded again is a straight up one for one trade.

[the_process]

Do the Warriors still hate Kuminga? Maybe he's a good option to take a swing on.

No, but Moses Moody is absolutely buried there.

[SixthStreet]

I think Moody is the better reclamation project with higher role player ceiling than Kuminga anyways.

[Doramas]

The Pistons are still interested in Tobias, what could we get in a hypothetical trade?

[Arsenal]

The Pistons are still interested in Tobias, what could we get in a hypothetical trade?

I assume nothing. They have a ton of cap room and can easily overpay him this summer without burning assets in trade.

Therefore on our end, we should consider trading him now if the alternative is losing him for nothing this summer.

[M2J]

If it's a 6-8 recovery period (sounds about right from what I've read), I think you just shut him down, sell what you can at the deadline and regroup for next season. There's no reason to blow it up or anything drastic like that. You don't want a bunch of pieces that don't fit together. Embiid is a top 3 player in the league, Maxey is a great young guard. We knew this season was going to be a step back anyway. Batum, Covington, Bev, and Morris are all old and need to go. Tobias has done his thing here and it's time for him to go too. I love Melton but if he can't stay healthy, we don't need to pay him. Let these guys go and build this back the way we want to. It'll suck raking in the losses, but that's what'll have to happen in order to move forward. This team with Maxey and four bottom tier reserves is as bad as the Detroit Pistons and San Antonio Spurs. Take the losses, and get the draft pick.

What's the realistic outcome of talent with this plan? Not a great free agent year. Is the plan to spend the max slot on multiple role players? That's fine, but who? Also, I would try to keep Melton, he is an asset at the right price. Tobias could be as well. Oubre HOPEFULLY could be kept with the mle, but not a guarantee.

I mean, I know that's not anyone's job here, but Morey can't just think that's a great idea.

If it's a transition year or a semi-tank year, I want to acquire some players we can develop, similar to how the Warriors developed Wiggins and Poole. One player I'm considering is Jonathan Isaac; he could alleviate Embiid's defensive responsibilities. The downside is his health, but as they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Another player to consider is Brice Sensabaugh. He just needs playing time, and he's poised to blossom like my previous picks such as Franz Wagner, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray, and Cam Thomas.

I'm not overly focused on centers; I believe we can address that in the offseason. To begin, Hartenstein is one player who could be signed to a contract similar to Paul Reed's.

This is exactly what they should be doing. Buried rookies, underused vets, vets who are slumping but still in prime age. Guys who have the physical attributes but whose stats aren't yet measuring up.

I like that idea too, but what type of assets is Daryl giving up to get those type of guys? And teams aren't typically giving up cheap young talent for expiring deals.

It's a better idea if they sell on Joel

[Negrodamus]

I've said this before: Hawks have to be active at trade time. They are committed to too many redundant players for multiple years. Hunter for 4 years with Jalen Johnson taking off like a rocket is going to be a hinderance (not to mention they have to make a decision on Bey this offseason). Okongwu should eventually be overtaking Capela. Bogdan and Murray are both locked in for 4, 5 years. Seems like if they aren't top 3 in the East with this lineup, these long contracts should be up for sale for (an) expiring contract(s)

[zaz102]

We're gonna end up with Lowry and DDR aren't we?

[the_process]

If it's a 6-8 recovery period (sounds about right from what I've read), I think you just shut him down, sell what you can at the deadline and regroup for next season. There's no reason to blow it up or anything drastic like that. You don't want a bunch of pieces that don't fit together. Embiid is a top 3 player in the league, Maxey is a great young guard. We knew this season was going to be a step back anyway. Batum, Covington, Bev, and Morris are all old and need to go. Tobias has done his thing here and it's time for him to go too. I love Melton but if he can't stay healthy, we don't need to pay him. Let these guys go and build this back the way we want to. It'll suck raking in the losses, but that's what'll have to happen in order to move forward. This team with Maxey and four bottom tier reserves is as bad as the Detroit Pistons and San Antonio Spurs. Take the losses, and get the draft pick.

What's the realistic outcome of talent with this plan? Not a great free agent year. Is the plan to spend the max slot on multiple role players? That's fine, but who? Also, I would try to keep Melton, he is an asset at the right price. Tobias could be as well. Oubre HOPEFULLY could be kept with the mle, but not a guarantee.

I mean, I know that's not anyone's job here, but Morey can't just think that's a great idea.

Morey is a gambler.

[brannigan73]

We should assume the goal is for Embiid to play this season. If it was very unlikely they would have said he is done for the season. We are two months plus from the playoffs. If they can get him healthy he absolutely should play. People need to understand we have no idea how many years Embiid has left. There is no "saving him now" to extend his career later imo. The man's body is a ticking time bomb. We could sit him the rest of the year and he could get injured seriously again by game 20 of next season. I do believe losing some weight and taking less chances (you know damn well he forced himself into that Warriors game) could help a little but he refuses to do either thing.

[Negrodamus]

We should assume the goal is for Embiid to play this season. If it was very unlikely they would have said he is done for the season. We are two months plus from the playoffs. If they can get him healthy he absolutely should play. People need to understand we have no idea how many years Embiid has left. There is no "saving him now" to extend his career later imo. The man's body is a ticking time bomb. We could sit him the rest of the year and he could get injured seriously again by game 20 of next season. I do believe losing some weight and taking less chances (you know damn well he forced himself into that Warriors game) could help a little but he refuses to do either thing.

If the plan is to bring back Embiid, then they should make a move for DeRozan. With DeRozan here, we'd likely be able to get Lowry for depth, both possibly beyond this season for a discounted price. They'd be able to assist in keeping the ship afloat while Embiid rehabs.

[HotelVitale]

If it's a transition year or a semi-tank year, I want to acquire some players we can develop, similar to how the Warriors developed Wiggins and Poole. One player I'm considering is Jonathan Isaac; he could alleviate Embiid's defensive responsibilities. The downside is his health, but as they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Another player to consider is Brice Sensabaugh. He just needs playing time, and he's poised to blossom like my previous picks such as Franz Wagner, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray, and Cam Thomas.

I'm not overly focused on centers; I believe we can address that in the offseason. To begin, Hartenstein is one player who could be signed to a contract similar to Paul Reed's.

This is exactly what they should be doing. Buried rookies, underused vets, vets who are slumping but still in prime age. Guys who have the physical attributes but whose stats aren't yet measuring up.

Definitely don't mind the idea of trying out some new players but don't think we actually have too many options for that. Like the Jazz aren't going to give us their last #1 pick for nothing, and we're probably not going to gamble on a high upside guy like Isaac given that he'd only be available because he's owed money beyond next year. Lots of tanking teams have cap space they can rent out to try unwanted contract players out, or they have like 6 months worth of playing time to give long runways to undrafted players (who would sign at the start of the season because of that PT, like during the whole Process). We don't have either option, so we're basically limited to just giving a bit more PT for a month or so to some castoffs. (Also seems pretty impossible that Hartenstein is available for $8m/season this summer.)

Who do you have in mind that's would be actually available now?

[Stanford]

Lowry stinks! That's not depth.

[FireMorey]

It might be hard for fans to accept this point of view, but I promise in say about 4-5 months most people will agree with it. The best thing for the Sixers is for them to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick. It’s not everyday that a team as good as the Sixers gets the pick in the lottery. It would give the Sixers an opportunity to get a potentially really good young player on a rookie deal in addition to all the cap room they’ll have. And they could even trade the pick if they’re so inclined, as it would be much more valuable.

But this team has few young stud players, it’s really just Maxey. Adding another who could contribute every night for cheap would be huge.

It’s what Im rooting for at this point. Let’s be real, this season is already over. Once Embiid went down that was a wrap, might as well get a lotto pick out of it. Nd I think they have a legit chance given how bad they are without him.

[the_process]

Looking at the upcoming schedule, there is a very good chance the Sixers have a losing record by April 1st. They will likely still be in the 9th or 10th slot, however. Now you're looking at Boston if you can win two play in games. Let's also not forget that Jo is probably still going to want to play in the Olympics.

[eyeatoma]

Jonathan Issac is 26 years old & has played a whopping 77 games since 2019. He’s not a basketball player with some injury concerns, he’s a medical patient who likes to shoot hoops.

LMFAO, ouch!

[M2J]

It might be hard for fans to accept this point of view, but I promise in say about 4-5 months most people will agree with it. The best thing for the Sixers is for them to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick. It’s not everyday that a team as good as the Sixers gets the pick in the lottery. It would give the Sixers an opportunity to get a potentially really good young player on a rookie deal in addition to all the cap room they’ll have. And they could even trade the pick if they’re so inclined, as it would be much more valuable.

But this team has few young stud players, it’s really just Maxey. Adding another who could contribute every night for cheap would be huge.

It’s what Im rooting for at this point. Let’s be real, this season is already over. Once Embiid went down that was a wrap, might as well get a lotto pick out of it. Nd I think they have a legit chance given how bad they are without him.

Makes sense.... No problem with that outcome, but they still should trade for talent before the deadline and they can come back as a real contender