Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0

[IceColdCubano]

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Unfortunately he is already cooked, and there's just nothing left there for someone to capitalize on.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Unfortunately he is already cooked, and there's just nothing left there for someone to capitalize on.

His player option kills his value. The same third year we wanted no part of. He’s buyout fodder

[twix2500]

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Unfortunately he is already cooked, and there's just nothing left there for someone to capitalize on.

I still think he has gas in the tank. Bring him back....

[MettaWorldPanda]

Now that i think about it. Why would PJ agree to a buyout when he still has his player opt? He definetely needs to be traded. He’s not giving that money up

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Oh so this is like legit legit, not Derozan would love to play in Miami but Miami doesn’t care type of thing.

[IceColdCubano]

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Q: Why do most media members and fans assume it has to be Tyler Herro that goes to the bench? Sure Tyler was great as a sixth man, but he has also produced career numbers (including shooting, passing, rebounding and defensive matrices) as a starter. The Heat need to realize that Tyler is our best creator on offense. The main problem is he is also our best floor spacer in the first unit. But he cannot space for himself. The solution should be to start Duncan Robinson and let Terry Rozier be the spark off the bench. Why does it seem that nobody considers that? – Adam.

A: Putting aside what your assumptions of what some are assuming, you offer cogent points that at this stage probably are worth considering. And yet I’m not sure that Duncan Robinson would be the optimal replacement starter, simply because of the defensive concerns in opening with a Tyler Herro-Duncan Robinson alignment. Instead, perhaps Josh Richardson or Caleb Martin would be the way to go, as a means of getting another defender with that opening group, but also someone who could help space the floor. There also is the issue of not wanting to make it look like Terry Rozier, upon his arrival, stands as some sort of scapegoat. To me, you ride this out to the All-Star break, then reset for the stretch run, much in the same way the Heat did with the Kevin Love re-set a year ago.

Q: Jaime Jaquez Jr. definitely had some rookie moments Sunday night. That’s Paul George and Kawhi Leonard that he was trying some of those moves on. Live and learn. – Douglas.

A: Exactly. And consider it a sign of respect. For any player, that is the next step, and arguably the most significant step, to keep getting it done once you make the opposing scouting report. That’s why it makes sense to have rookie-scale contracts, so you don’t have to make judgements on the initial returns. I don’t think Jaime Jaquez Jr. has hit any sort of rookie wall. I think he has reached the crossroads of potential enduring success.

Q: So much for our big two-game winning streak. Do we finally go out and make a trade to get Jimmy Butler some real help, or do we just go back and have another hardcore film session? – Greg, Jacksonville.

A: Film it is, with the Heat yet to have a full practice since Terry Rozier’s trade arrival. Erik Spoelstra continues to stress a belief that this mix can work. Then again, we’ll know by Thursday, which is the NBA trading deadline.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Q: Why do most media members and fans assume it has to be Tyler Herro that goes to the bench? Sure Tyler was great as a sixth man, but he has also produced career numbers (including shooting, passing, rebounding and defensive matrices) as a starter. The Heat need to realize that Tyler is our best creator on offense. The main problem is he is also our best floor spacer in the first unit. But he cannot space for himself. The solution should be to start Duncan Robinson and let Terry Rozier be the spark off the bench. Why does it seem that nobody considers that? – Adam.

A: Putting aside what your assumptions of what some are assuming, you offer cogent points that at this stage probably are worth considering. And yet I’m not sure that Duncan Robinson would be the optimal replacement starter, simply because of the defensive concerns in opening with a Tyler Herro-Duncan Robinson alignment. Instead, perhaps Josh Richardson or Caleb Martin would be the way to go, as a means of getting another defender with that opening group, but also someone who could help space the floor. There also is the issue of not wanting to make it look like Terry Rozier, upon his arrival, stands as some sort of scapegoat. To me, you ride this out to the All-Star break, then reset for the stretch run, much in the same way the Heat did with the Kevin Love re-set a year ago.

Q: Jaime Jaquez Jr. definitely had some rookie moments Sunday night. That’s Paul George and Kawhi Leonard that he was trying some of those moves on. Live and learn. – Douglas.

A: Exactly. And consider it a sign of respect. For any player, that is the next step, and arguably the most significant step, to keep getting it done once you make the opposing scouting report. That’s why it makes sense to have rookie-scale contracts, so you don’t have to make judgements on the initial returns. I don’t think Jaime Jaquez Jr. has hit any sort of rookie wall. I think he has reached the crossroads of potential enduring success.

Q: So much for our big two-game winning streak. Do we finally go out and make a trade to get Jimmy Butler some real help, or do we just go back and have another hardcore film session? – Greg, Jacksonville.

A: Film it is, with the Heat yet to have a full practice since Terry Rozier’s trade arrival. Erik Spoelstra continues to stress a belief that this mix can work. Then again, we’ll know by Thursday, which is the NBA trading deadline.

Lmao!!!

[AirP.]

Now that i think about it. Why would PJ agree to a buyout when he still has his player opt? He definetely needs to be traded. He’s not giving that money up

They could pay him for both season at a reduced rate based on what both parties think he can make on the open market to save the Clippers a lot of money. They could also stretch him over 5 years to save a lot of money being over the tax. Of course, they'll try to trade him before eating the contract.

[Daffy]

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Oh so this is like legit legit, not Derozan would love to play in Miami but Miami doesn’t care type of thing.

That account is fake.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Clippers shot 10-16 when defended by Jimmy last night, hes not locked in defensively yet.

Highsmith: 3-13
Bam: 1-7
Martin: 4-11
Rozier: 9-19

Jaime got torched too at 7-11

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wizards shot 9-10 against Jaime, this dude has been ridiculously bad on defense, why is he getting the rep of a defender on here?

[IceColdCubano]

Wizards shot 9-10 against Jaime, this dude has been ridiculously bad on defense, why is he getting the rep of a defender on here?

He had passable defense earlier in the season, along with his great and efficient offense made him valuable, now he is just awful at everything pretty much.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wizards shot 9-10 against Jaime, this dude has been ridiculously bad on defense, why is he getting the rep of a defender on here?

He had passable defense earlier in the season, along with his great and efficient offense made him valuable, now he is just awful at everything pretty much.

Unfortunate

[jbsays]

No thanks to PJ Tucker. He'll be 39 come playoff time. He's undersized and I don't think he's giving you anything Highsmith can't at this point.

Heat do need someone next to Bam... I just don't see how they get it. Guys like Robinson and Martin aren't that unique around the league so I don't see them getting anything back unless it was a disgruntled guy. Plus, I'm not even sure trading Caleb would be wise because he is still on the books for next year and cheap. There are too many wings/perimeter guys though, so I guess if you can turn one in to a big then you do it.

[AirP.]

Here's a crazy thought but the situation at PF makes me even consider it. What about some package built around Herro or (Robinson and Martin) for Andrew Wiggins. If Miami had ANYTHING that resembled a real starting level PF I wouldn't even, consider it. I think Miami's environment and Spoelstra could get the most out of what he still has left at age 28(almost 29).

Before you say no, just consider who much better the offense and defense would be throughout the game with a scoring option at PF that isn't just jacking up wide open 3s.

[jbsays]

Jaquez is a rookie. He is older, but he was also a middle of first round pick who is going to have to adjust to NBA life. He's already played 7 more games this season than he did last year at UCLA. I think he's a legit rotation level player on a championship caliber team, but he's a 4-8 guy in the rotation. He's going to have some ups and downs.

[jbsays]

Here's a crazy thought but the situation at PF makes me even consider it. What about some package built around Herro or (Robinson and Martin) for Andrew Wiggins. If Miami had ANYTHING that resembled a real starting level PF I wouldn't even, consider it. I think Miami's environment and Spoelstra could get the most out of what he still has left at age 28(almost 29).

Before you say no, just consider who much better the offense and defense would be throughout the game with a scoring option at PF that isn't just jacking up wide open 3s.

I wouldn't move Herro for him, but maybe Robinson/Martin.

That being said, I don't think Wiggins is the answer and I don't see why GSW would want Duncan and Martin.... or even Herro.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Here's a crazy thought but the situation at PF makes me even consider it. What about some package built around Herro or (Robinson and Martin) for Andrew Wiggins. If Miami had ANYTHING that resembled a real starting level PF I wouldn't even, consider it. I think Miami's environment and Spoelstra could get the most out of what he still has left at age 28(almost 29).

Before you say no, just consider who much better the offense and defense would be throughout the game with a scoring option at PF that isn't just jacking up wide open 3s.

I’d prefer Herro over Duncan/Martin to be traded but don’t know if the Warriors would have any interest

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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It’s time.