Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

playa-hater · Post #41 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 2:57 am

OK I expect to be shot down faster than a Drone flying over Wash DC, But Christian Wood only makes 2.3 mill with 2 years left.

OK so.. shoot me :nod:

playa-hater · Post #42 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 2:58 am

tbceltics34 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Speaking of Lonnie Walker, one of my wish list players. as of Now (9 mins left in the 4th) he has only played 4 minutes so far v GS. Doesn't seem overly valued in Brooklyn. I would throw
a salary Filler + 3 2nd picks at him > PP + 2 firsts for Caruso.

Still would have the TPE + all our 1sts for another move if possible.

make it happen Brad!!

I think the main reason he only played 9 minutes is because he reaggravated his hamstring injury, one I saw that caused him to miss 17 games this season. So that could be something to monitor.

that sucks but my offer still stands.

zoyathedestroya · Post #43 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:13 am

playa-hater wrote:OK I expect to be shot down faster than a Drone flying over Wash DC, But Christian Wood only makes 2.3 mill with 2 years left.

OK so.. shoot me

Bad locker room guy. Low IQ player. Poor defender. Doesn't seem like the type we'd go after regardless of price.

Ben-N1ce · Post #44 » by **Ben-N1ce** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:14 am

Is still trade Pritchard for Quickley in a second. He has a deadly floater, can actually get a shot up at the rim and hit threes. Neither are great but Quickly can drop 20 in a spot start to give white or jrue days off cuz he's done it his whole career.

Mr_Mojo_Risin · Post #45 » by **Mr_Mojo_Risin** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:36 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:Is still trade Pritchard for Quickley in a second. He has a deadly floater, can actually get a shot up at the rim and hit threes. Neither are great but Quickly can drop 20 in a spot start to give white or jrue days off cuz he's done it his whole career.

I think almost every one would, but sadly Toronto wouldn't.

Post #46 » by **165bows** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:40 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:The Celtics could use an upgrade! Here's Zach Lowe from his podcast (Thanks Jablo1312):

"They're starting to, leak oil is a little strong, they're starting to wobble a little bit and have put together some performances that have made me be (concerned). They started the season 26-6 , they're now 11-6 since. When they were 26-6 , they averaged 121 points per 100 possessions , #2 in the league, 110 points allowed, that was #2 in the league. In the 11-6 stretch, they're down to 119/100 on offense, which doesn't sound like a big drop off, it's just two points, but offense trends up over the season, and we've seen this movie with Boston before, that's 9th in that span. 112 points allowed, that's 5th. Their net rating has dropped from 10.4 plus to plus 6.8, which is the difference between great and just good, they're like 5th in net rating in the 11-6 stretch. Still good, still like, everything's fine, I just haven't loved, just haven't loved it. Their starting, the version of their starting five with Horford in Porzingis's place is minus five in 215 minutes, it just hasn't played well and Porzingis feels just so essential to their team.

And I'm just gonna read you…what percentile thier share of shot attempts at the rim in their last 15-ish games since January 10th would rank on a zero to 100 scale: 5th, 25th, 7th, 9th, 13th, 8th,19th ,38th, 16th, 26th, 10th, 6th, 9th. I'm sorry to keep harping on this, it's not a crisis, but it's a thing. They shoot too many threes, they do not get to the rim enough, I know some people within their team would say: when we get to the rim and we miss, it's a jailbreak going to the other end, with threes we can set our defense. The math says this. The math says you're amazing, and you are amazing. I am not sitting here advocating that the Boston Celtics turn into like the 1994 Knicks. I'm just saying those numbers I just read are problematic, and they suggest that a 5-10% shift of your philosophy, a small but noticeable shift, is necessary. Because they had seven free throws last night. They don't get to the line a lot, they don't offensive rebound a lot, they are just too dependent on threes. Maybe this is just the malaise of we're awesome, we're good, we're gonna take the easier way out in some of these games, but those numbers, it's just ice cold blue up and down those numbers, and it's just something I'm monitoring. They're down to like 28th for the season, in percentage of shot attempts at the rim, it's too low, it needs to get higher."

There is a good point here that I’d mentioned in the the prior thread, Horford has felt like a weak link at times.

I think Lowe is undervaluing the density of games played in that stretch.

Also worth noting that the rumor mill went from Boston looking for a big wing to the obligatory big man depth ask recently.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #47 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:42 am

I know it won't happen, but if the Celtics really want another playable big, they could make Olynyk happen.

Out: PP, Luke, Svi, Banton, Stevens, pick.

In: Kelly, Dunn

It's basically PP and Luke for Kelly and Dunn.

I know these deals don't really happen. Just wasting time.

Hal14 · Post #48 » by **Hal14** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:50 am

I got a bad feeling that Caruso is gonna go to either MIL, MIA or PHI..and we're gonna get someone but it'll be someone who's not as good as Caruso..

Fierce1 · Post #49 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:51 am

Saric really becoming expendable now that Kuminga is playing so well.

I'm all in on Saric.

He's the type of big the Cs need.

Can play the 4 and 5.

zoyathedestroya · Post #50 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:54 am

Read on Twitter

Fierce1 · Post #51 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 3:58 am

Saric or Drummond won't mess up what the Cs have as both players fit into the TPE.

Guys like Caruso, Wright, and Olynyk will affect what the Cs have as the Cs need to send out multiple players for a deal to work.

jfs1000d · Post #52 » by **jfs1000d** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:00 am

Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

So, it is TPE and maybe second round picks for players. Drummond for 2 second rounders?

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Fierce1 · Post #53 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:03 am

jfs1000d wrote:Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

So, it is TPE and maybe second round picks for players. Drummond for 2 second rounders?

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Yeah, Drummond for 2 2nd rounders is fair.

Hal14 · Post #54 » by **Hal14** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:06 am

jfs1000d wrote:Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

Again, Brad just traded Rob, Smart, Grant and Malcom in the span of like 2 weeks.

I don't think he'll think twice about moving Pritchard and/or Hauser.

A couple years ago at the deadline he traded Schroeder and J-rich, who were getting much more playing time that season for Boston than Hauser/Pritchard are getting now..

Brad can smell that title. He's pushing his chips in to get it. You need to give value to get value. Other teams don't want our end of bench scrubs who might be out of the league next season.

Literally the day after he got the job as POBO, Brad traded our starting PG, Kemba Walker. I don't think he'll mind trading our 3rd best PG (Pritchard) or our 3rd best wing (Hauser) if he thinks it'll get us closer to a banner.

Fierce1 · Post #55 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:09 am

Hal14 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

Again, Brad just traded Rob, Smart, Grant and Malcom in the span of like 2 weeks.

I don't think he'll think twice about moving Pritchard and/or Hauser.

A couple years ago at the deadline he traded Schroeder and J-rich, who were getting much more playing time that season for Boston than Hauser/Pritchard are getting now..

I think this time it's different.

Cs weren't really rolling when those guys were traded.

This time around the Cs are #1 in the league and team chemistry is very good.

No rocking the boat this time around.

Fierce1 · Post #56 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:12 am

We'll know for sure in a couple of days.

My money is on Brad making a move for Saric or Drummond.

jfs1000d · Post #57 » by **jfs1000d** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:34 am

Hal14 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

Again, Brad just traded Rob, Smart, Grant and Malcom in the span of like 2 weeks.

I don't think he'll think twice about moving Pritchard and/or Hauser.

A couple years ago at the deadline he traded Schroeder and J-rich, who were getting much more playing time that season for Boston than Hauser/Pritchard are getting now..

Brad can smell that title. He's pushing his chips in to get it. You need to give value to get value. Other teams don't want our bench of bench scrubs who might be out of the league next season.

U are crazy. Brad would do it in offseason, but you don’t trade shooting of the best team in nba and mess with the rotartion. They have brisset as a big wing. Center they have Kornet and Quetta. I think they can upgrade at backup center who can play a lot of minute down the stretch as we rest horrors and KP.

Hal14 · Post #58 » by **Hal14** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:39 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Celtics aren’t giving up their top 8. Not gonna happen. Horrors, PP and Hauser aren’t going anywhere.

Again, Brad just traded Rob, Smart, Grant and Malcom in the span of like 2 weeks.

I don't think he'll think twice about moving Pritchard and/or Hauser.

A couple years ago at the deadline he traded Schroeder and J-rich, who were getting much more playing time that season for Boston than Hauser/Pritchard are getting now..

I think this time it's different.

Cs weren't really rolling when those guys were traded.

This time around the Cs are #1 in the league and team chemistry is very good.

No rocking the boat this time around.

Still 0 titles since 2008.

You don't hang banners for having the best record in the league on February 5.

It's been several years now since the team with the best record in the league ended up winning the title. Need to always be trying to improve the roster.

We're rolling? We just got blown out by the Lakers with no Lebron and no AD. We got blown out by the Clippers, blown out by the Bucks, lost to Denver..

zoyathedestroya · Post #59 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:56 am

It's a boring answer but our best trade deadline acquisition would be Jrue being more of an offensive weapon for us. I think he's underwhelmed on that end even as he's been shooting better past 15 games or so. There's your "bench scorer."

Triple7 · Post #60 » by **Triple7** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 4:56 am

Let’s get drummond for a bunch of 2nd rounders. Do it Stevens. Just watched the Jazz play bug against the bucks, and Giannis had a hard time. Kessler, olynyk and markannen, with george and clarkson, overwhelmed the bucks with size. We need an extra big to rebound and defend. and No, Queta won’t play in the playoffs unless its garbage time. Also lets just put aside our emotions and just accept that Kornet ain’t tough at all. Hotford had regressed a lot, and KP will miss some games for sure. Can’t have him roughing up with Giannis and Bam.