Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

It's a boring answer but our best trade deadline acquisition would be Jrue being more of an offensive weapon for us. I think he's underwhelmed on that end even as he's been shooting better past 15 games or so. There's your "bench scorer."

You're right, that is boring.

[Fencer reregistered]

Saric or Drummond won't mess up what the Cs have as both players fit into the TPE.

Guys like Caruso, Wright, and Olynyk will affect what the Cs have as the Cs need to send out multiple players for a deal to work.

I don't think Brad would hesitate to trade Stevens, Banton or Svi for an upgrade. They're not woven into the team's fiber in any hard-to-replace way.

A little less emphatically, that's true of Brissett as well.

Pritchard, Hauser and Kornet have clear roles, and replacing them would require careful consideration. The easiest to replace is probably Pritchard, in that:

-- There are more guards around than taller guys.
-- Pritchard isn't hitting his shots reliably.
-- The core rotation really features 3 other two-way PG-capable guards, in Holiday, White, and the combo of the Jays (Tatum on offense, Brown on D).

[Fierce1]

Again, Brad just traded Rob, Smart, Grant and Malcom in the span of like 2 weeks.

I don't think he'll think twice about moving Pritchard and/or Hauser.

A couple years ago at the deadline he traded Schroeder and J-rich, who were getting much more playing time that season for Boston than Hauser/Pritchard are getting now..

I think this time it's different.

Cs weren't really rolling when those guys were traded.

This time around the Cs are #1 in the league and team chemistry is very good.

No rocking the boat this time around.

Still 0 titles since 2008.

You don't hang banners for having the best record in the league on February 5.

It's been several years now since the team with the best record in the league ended up winning the title. Need to always be trying to improve the roster.

We're rolling? We just got blown out by the Lakers with no Lebron and no AD. We got blown out by the Clippers, blown out by the Bucks, lost to Denver..

3 bad losses doesn't erase all the good the Celtics have done this season.

And the last time the Celtics won a championship, they had the best record in the league on February 5, 2008.

[Cuban Pete]

Xavier Tillman
He's a center who is similar to Timelord. He's a FA at season's end and is dirt cheap.

Naji Marshall
SF is a good rebounder, good passer, and an adequate shooter. Like Tillman, he's on his contract year and is dirt cheap. Unlike Tillman, Naji's team is competitive. The Pels might be loathe to deal him at this time.

[Fierce1]

More or less 63 hours to go for Caruso to NOT end up with the Celtics.

[GoGreen]

Anyone really think we'll get Caruso or Drummond? I do think Brad will make a move but idk about those guys. Still would really like a wing myself.

[playa-hater]

Let’s get drummond for a bunch of 2nd rounders. Do it Stevens. Just watched the Jazz play bug against the bucks, and Giannis had a hard time. Kessler, olynyk and markannen, with george and clarkson, overwhelmed the bucks with size. We need an extra big to rebound and defend. and No, Queta won’t play in the playoffs unless its garbage time. Also lets just put aside our emotions and just accept that Kornet ain’t tough at all. Hotford had regressed a lot, and KP will miss some games for sure. Can’t have him roughing up with Giannis and Bam.

Not disagreeing with any of your points but I still wonder if Joe would play Drummond over Kornet.

[Fencer reregistered]

Anyone really think we'll get Caruso or Drummond? I do think Brad will make a move but idk about those guys. Still would really like a wing myself.

Other teams need them more, and would be likely to pay accordingly.

[Fencer reregistered]

Xavier Tillman
He's a center who is similar to Timelord. He's a FA at season's end and is dirt cheap.

Naji Marshall
SF is a good rebounder, good passer, and an adequate shooter. Like Tillman, he's on his contract year and is dirt cheap. Unlike Tillman, Naji's team is competitive. The Pels might be loathe to deal him at this time.

The problem with renting a guy we won't give minutes to, just as insurance, is that he's likely indeed just a rental, and will move on for no compensation in the offseason.

[Triple7]

Let’s get drummond for a bunch of 2nd rounders. Do it Stevens. Just watched the Jazz play bug against the bucks, and Giannis had a hard time. Kessler, olynyk and markannen, with george and clarkson, overwhelmed the bucks with size. We need an extra big to rebound and defend. and No, Queta won’t play in the playoffs unless its garbage time. Also lets just put aside our emotions and just accept that Kornet ain’t tough at all. Hotford had regressed a lot, and KP will miss some games for sure. Can’t have him roughing up with Giannis and Bam.

Not disagreeing with any of your points but I still wonder if Joe would play Drummond over Kornet.

He would. Especially against bigger teams. The reason Kornet plays over Queta, is because Kornet is a vet, and Joe trusts more vet players. Kornet won’t play over drummond. Drummond was a beast when Vuc was out.

[Triple7]

Drummond, KP, JT white and Jrue. That’s the lineup to really pound the bucks. Less space for Giannis to drive inside. KP and JT can just serve as help defenders. Meanwhile, White and Jrue can keep tabs on Dame.
Do it Stevens. Get drummond asap.

[Fierce1]

Let's also not take for granted the best record in the NBA.

The last 2 times the Celtics won a championship, 1986 and 2008, the Celtics had the best record.

When not having the best record the last time the Celtics made the finals, 1987, 2010, and 2022, the Celtics ended up losing all 3 finals series.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I absolutely hate all the restrictions that will be put on teams over the second apron next year. It damned near makes it impossible to improve your team at that point. If Brad's going to improve the team, it's gotta be now. It definitely won't happen over the summer or in the foreseeable future.

[zoyathedestroya]

I don't think playoff experience is that high of a priority considering 6 of our top 7 guys have all played in the Finals. But just in case we're looking for vets that's been there, here are some possibly available players who have played in the Finals (last 5 seasons) -- Danny Green, Markieff Morris, Alex Caruso, Otto Porter, Jr., Torrey Craig, Kendrick Nunn, Kelly Olynyk (via buyout), PJ Tucker (via buyout).

[Fencer reregistered]

https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/nba-trade-deadline-approaches/

That's a Steve Bulpett article, rather different in tone from some of the cookie-cutter speculation going around.

[Fierce1]

I understand wanting to improve because the Celtics really have a big chance of winning a championship this season.

But let's not forget what happened at the trade deadline in 2011.

Ainge traded Perk for Jeff Green.

Clearly the Celtics got the better player in Jeff Green, but it upset the guys in the locker room, especially KG.

The Celtics went 14-11 after that Jeff Green trade.

[hugepatsfan]

I understand wanting to improve because the Celtics really have a big chance of winning a championship this season.

But let's not forget what happened at the trade deadline in 2011.

Ainge traded Perk for Jeff Green.

Clearly the Celtics got the better player in Jeff Green, but it upset the guys in the locker room, especially KG.

The Celtics went 14-11 after that Jeff Green trade.

Definitely don’t want to disrupt team chemistry but let’s keep it in perspective. No one here is suggesting trading anyone of the top 6. I don’t think anyone here wants to trade Hauser or Kornet or even Brisset out of the minimum salary guys if given the choice.

People are most willing to trade Stevens/Banton/Svi who all are in their first year here and hardly play. It’s hard to imagine they’re key to our chemistry. And then yes, most are talking about including Pritchard maybe if the money is needed. That’s the only aspect of things I see being a chemistry issue, but honestly I still don’t think that would be a huge issue to move Pritchard for an upgrade. This team doesn’t seem wired like that 08 team where they’d care tbh.

And it wasn’t just chemistry with that Perk deal. They had no center left because Shaq and JO weren’t reliable and Bug Baby was more PF than C. KG wasn’t willing to embrace the move to the 5 that year. The next year we got Bass and KG embraced the move and it was actually key to our resurgence. It’s a shame Green missed that year too because had he been on the court and played like he did the following year he was a great 6th man. Remember, Avery Bradley also got hurt 2nd round before that ECF we were up 3-2 vs Miami. If we had him and Green as depth I bet we get back to the finals. But I digress…

[Fierce1]

I understand wanting to improve because the Celtics really have a big chance of winning a championship this season.

But let's not forget what happened at the trade deadline in 2011.

Ainge traded Perk for Jeff Green.

Clearly the Celtics got the better player in Jeff Green, but it upset the guys in the locker room, especially KG.

The Celtics went 14-11 after that Jeff Green trade.

Definitely don’t want to disrupt team chemistry but let’s keep it in perspective. No one here is suggesting trading anyone of the top 6. I don’t think anyone here wants to trade Hauser or Kornet or even Brisset out of the minimum salary guys if given the choice.

People are most willing to trade Stevens/Banton/Svi who all are in their first year here and hardly play. It’s hard to imagine they’re key to our chemistry. And then yes, most are talking about including Pritchard maybe if the money is needed. That’s the only aspect of things I see being a chemistry issue, but honestly I still don’t think that would be a huge issue to move Pritchard for an upgrade. This team doesn’t seem wired like that 08 team where they’d care tbh.

And it wasn’t just chemistry with that Perk deal. They had no center left because Shaq and JO weren’t reliable and Bug Baby was more PF than C. KG wasn’t willing to embrace the move to the 5 that year. The next year we got Bass and KG embraced the move and it was actually key to our resurgence. It’s a shame Green missed that year too because had he been on the court and played like he did the following year he was a great 6th man. Remember, Avery Bradley also got hurt 2nd round before that ECF we were up 3-2 vs Miami. If we had him and Green as depth I bet we get back to the finals. But I digress…

But I'm always told here that 4 for 1 trades don't happen during the season.

I have no problem trading PP, Lamar, Svi, and Banton for Caruso.

But like said, people here will tell you trading 4 players for 1 player happens during the offseason.

[Fencer reregistered]

I understand wanting to improve because the Celtics really have a big chance of winning a championship this season.

But let's not forget what happened at the trade deadline in 2011.

Ainge traded Perk for Jeff Green.

Clearly the Celtics got the better player in Jeff Green, but it upset the guys in the locker room, especially KG.

The Celtics went 14-11 after that Jeff Green trade.

Definitely don’t want to disrupt team chemistry but let’s keep it in perspective. No one here is suggesting trading anyone of the top 6. I don’t think anyone here wants to trade Hauser or Kornet or even Brisset out of the minimum salary guys if given the choice.

People are most willing to trade Stevens/Banton/Svi who all are in their first year here and hardly play. It’s hard to imagine they’re key to our chemistry. And then yes, most are talking about including Pritchard maybe if the money is needed. That’s the only aspect of things I see being a chemistry issue, but honestly I still don’t think that would be a huge issue to move Pritchard for an upgrade. This team doesn’t seem wired like that 08 team where they’d care tbh.

And it wasn’t just chemistry with that Perk deal. They had no center left because Shaq and JO weren’t reliable and Bug Baby was more PF than C. KG wasn’t willing to embrace the move to the 5 that year. The next year we got Bass and KG embraced the move and it was actually key to our resurgence. It’s a shame Green missed that year too because had he been on the court and played like he did the following year he was a great 6th man. Remember, Avery Bradley also got hurt 2nd round before that ECF we were up 3-2 vs Miami. If we had him and Green as depth I bet we get back to the finals. But I digress…

But I'm always told here that 4 for 1 trades don't happen during the season.

I have no problem trading PP, Lamar, Svi, and Banton for Caruso.

But like said, people here will tell you trading 4 players for 1 player happens during the offseason.

If we do that, it's potentially an expensive deal that brings back Caruso and Drummond and Torrey Craig (the latter two into the Grant TPE).

It might also be something more complicated yet, if Chicago can find a way to sell off one or more of their high-salary guys and this gets combined into that.

That said -- adding 3 role players from a bad team really would be a risk to chemistry.

[Fierce1]

A simple solution would just to get Saric.

You can throw Saric at Giannis and Jokic.

Caruso is more of a luxury item.