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Post#381 » by zaymon » Sun Feb 4, 2024 11:19 am

p0peye wrote:Interesting quote, "have good body language, be vocal, and be coachable".

It is not about defense then and it makes sense as defense is certainly not a skill you improve upon in G League. I agree, it is a message to the kid that he needs to change his attitude and take actions on coaches feedback he is receiving. He is young, but behaviour changes are a bitch.


But its also doable and easier than teaching being confident and aggressive. I am happy they took a chance on him, but real question is if he is a worker.
Its also possible to work on defense in the gleague. Heat did it with Duncan Robinson.
I predict we will insert Jett into rotation in limited role after allstar break. We can show him he is not a star here right now, but we cant really limit his role in the gleague becouse he is clearly best player on the team at 20 y.o.
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Post#382 » by pepe1991 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 12:36 pm

You can't teach character. Duncan wasn't vocal nor agressive and yet is one of best to ever do it.
You simply need to be good at basketball.
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Post#383 » by zaymon » Sun Feb 4, 2024 1:33 pm

pepe1991 wrote:You can't teach character. Duncan wasn't vocal nor agressive and yet is one of best to ever do it.
You simply need to be good at basketball.


You need to have different characters, we have too many introverctics. Howard is very skilled overall. Much more than Cole, Suggs, Gary.
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Post#384 » by yoyojw17 » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:34 pm



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Post#385 » by eyriq » Sun Feb 4, 2024 2:55 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:

good video
Yeah, good stuff. Has me a bit hyped for Jett. #FreeJett!
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Post#386 » by Skybox » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:28 pm

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yoyojw17 wrote:

good video
Yeah, good stuff. Has me a bit hyped for Jett. #FreeJett!


haven't watched the video yet, but Emoni Bates seems like he was built for the G-League. He could be 10x G-League MVP but never make the show :lol:
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Post#387 » by p0peye » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:04 pm

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p0peye wrote:Interesting quote, "have good body language, be vocal, and be coachable".

It is not about defense then and it makes sense as defense is certainly not a skill you improve upon in G League. I agree, it is a message to the kid that he needs to change his attitude and take actions on coaches feedback he is receiving. He is young, but behaviour changes are a bitch.


But its also doable and easier than teaching being confident and aggressive. I am happy they took a chance on him, but real question is if he is a worker.
Its also possible to work on defense in the gleague. Heat did it with Duncan Robinson.
I predict we will insert Jett into rotation in limited role after allstar break. We can show him he is not a star here right now, but we cant really limit his role in the gleague becouse he is clearly best player on the team at 20 y.o.


So, being aggressive is a behavioural change. That is usually hard. Improving your functional skills (ie. posting up or shooting in case of basketball players) is usually much easier done. I've been people manager for two decades and I know how hard it is for improvement plan to succeed when the focus is on behaviour. The good part is that he is extremely young, so it should be doable depending on the change. I assume (without any actual data) that he might've been feeling a bit entitled which translated into resentment on feedback when he was challenged.
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Post#389 » by zaymon » Sun Feb 4, 2024 4:27 pm

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p0peye wrote:Interesting quote, "have good body language, be vocal, and be coachable".

It is not about defense then and it makes sense as defense is certainly not a skill you improve upon in G League. I agree, it is a message to the kid that he needs to change his attitude and take actions on coaches feedback he is receiving. He is young, but behaviour changes are a bitch.


But its also doable and easier than teaching being confident and aggressive. I am happy they took a chance on him, but real question is if he is a worker.
Its also possible to work on defense in the gleague. Heat did it with Duncan Robinson.
I predict we will insert Jett into rotation in limited role after allstar break. We can show him he is not a star here right now, but we cant really limit his role in the gleague becouse he is clearly best player on the team at 20 y.o.


So, being aggressive is a behavioural change. That is usually hard. Improving your functional skills (ie. posting up or shooting in case of basketball players) is usually much easier done. I've been people manager for two decades and I know how hard it is for improvement plan to succeed when the focus is on behaviour. The good part is that he is extremely young, so it should be doable depending on the change. I assume (without any actual data) that he might've been feeling a bit entitled which translated into resentment on feedback when he was challenged.


I dont think we want him to be less aggressive, just to accept his role, whatever it is. Draymond is borderline dissocial (he had some criminal like behaviour) but he also accepted his limited role next to Curry and Klay (even Durant but not without tensions). Maybe it sounds weird but i want more aggression on our roster. Not crude like Green, but more sophisticated like Wade.
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Post#390 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:47 pm

Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?
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Post#391 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:53 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?


He did have a 12.9 AST% and almost 4 AST/100 in college, which isn't bad at all for a "3&D" player.

Quite a bit higher than Gradey Dick, Jordan Hawkins, Kobe Bufkin (freshman year) and Cam Whitmore.

So potentially there's some secondary creation chops there. The ability to make some passes against a scrambling defense if he gets run off the 3PT line, or even potentially initiating a pick and roll here or there.
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Post#392 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:29 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?


He did have a 12.9 AST% and almost 4 AST/100 in college, which isn't bad at all for a "3&D" player.

Quite a bit higher than Gradey Dick, Jordan Hawkins, Kobe Bufkin (freshman year) and Cam Whitmore.

So potentially there's some secondary creation chops there. The ability to make some passes against a scrambling defense if he gets run off the 3PT line, or even potentially initiating a pick and roll here or there.


Just a thought really. Trying to figure out what the end game is and if it is really "just 3&D" or will he develop into an Ingles type.
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Post#393 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:41 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:Just a thought really. Trying to figure out what the end game is and if it is really "just 3&D" or will he develop into an Ingles type.


I think thriving in a 3&D role would be Jett's quickest path to NBA rotation minutes, but I suspect they want him to expand his game as much as possible and aren't looking to limit him in any way yet.
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Post#394 » by zaymon » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:07 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?


He did have a 12.9 AST% and almost 4 AST/100 in college, which isn't bad at all for a "3&D" player.

Quite a bit higher than Gradey Dick, Jordan Hawkins, Kobe Bufkin (freshman year) and Cam Whitmore.

So potentially there's some secondary creation chops there. The ability to make some passes against a scrambling defense if he gets run off the 3PT line, or even potentially initiating a pick and roll here or there.


To be frank i really like him as a prospect. Even if he is not as good defensively, there is something Klay Thompsonlike about him. From size, to shooting, to attitude, to passing.
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Post#395 » by fendilim » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:36 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?


He did have a 12.9 AST% and almost 4 AST/100 in college, which isn't bad at all for a "3&D" player.

Quite a bit higher than Gradey Dick, Jordan Hawkins, Kobe Bufkin (freshman year) and Cam Whitmore.

So potentially there's some secondary creation chops there. The ability to make some passes against a scrambling defense if he gets run off the 3PT line, or even potentially initiating a pick and roll here or there.


To be frank i really like him as a prospect. Even if he is not as good defensively, there is something Klay Thompsonlike about him. From size, to shooting, to attitude, to passing.
he is one of the more complete package shooter in the draft last year.
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Post#396 » by Skin » Mon Feb 5, 2024 7:28 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
Knightro wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Question, is there any metrics that show that Jett can be anything "more" then 3&D?

Seems like a lot of background noise centered around that being his role that he is unready for. I am just sitting here asking myself if that is the actual plan?


He did have a 12.9 AST% and almost 4 AST/100 in college, which isn't bad at all for a "3&D" player.

Quite a bit higher than Gradey Dick, Jordan Hawkins, Kobe Bufkin (freshman year) and Cam Whitmore.

So potentially there's some secondary creation chops there. The ability to make some passes against a scrambling defense if he gets run off the 3PT line, or even potentially initiating a pick and roll here or there.


Just a thought really. Trying to figure out what the end game is and if it is really "just 3&D" or will he develop into an Ingles type.

What allows me to think that he can be more than a 3&D guy is the fact that he has really good handles and he has a scorers mentality. He won't just settle for 3s. He is very capable of maneuvering his way past a defender or through traffic. He adds nice touch around the rim, understands how to use his body, and has a pull up jumper. Like I've said before... he's a baller first, athlete second. ...that rubs some people the wrong way, but we used to constantly hear gripes about drafting athletes who needed to learn the game (dribbling/shooting)... basic stuff. He wasn't my first choice, but I'm pinning hopes on him. Could've been better (Whitmore), could've been worse (Gradey Dick).
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Post#397 » by pepe1991 » Tue Feb 6, 2024 8:19 am

That's not what he is. He pretty much is exclusively 3 point shooter.

65% of all shots he took at college were from 3 point range.

One article from midway of regular college season pointed out that after 18 games ( out of 29), he only had 15 attemps at rim on set defense.



But that's not why he was not projected to be lottery pick. Scouts weren't that high on him because of defense. You can't play him at SG because he does not have latheral quickness to defend smaller players, has bad habbit of standing out of defensive stence on defenes and easly gets passed by players who can beat him off dribble.

If you put him at SF, he doesn't have physicality nor strenght to defend nba SFs and once again his lack of latheral mobility comes to play. One of funny things he got credited for on defense, at college, was "contesting shot from behind" ... Well.. how execlly he ended up contesting so many shots from behind? Because he got thrown out of position. Not to mention in nba, most elite offensive players (like Harden, Trae) anticipate contact from behind, stop and allow defender to touch them to sell foul.


As far as G league goes, you just need to watch DJ Wilson in nba and in Gleague to figure how different level of competition actually is.
IN G league he is Lebron-like. Dude literally looks like he could be allstar in nba. Than you put him in nba and he is average joe and marginal rotation player at best.
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Post#398 » by yoyojw17 » Tue Feb 6, 2024 5:25 pm

pepe1991 wrote:That's not what he is. He pretty much is exclusively 3 point shooter.

65% of all shots he took at college were from 3 point range.

One article from midway of regular college season pointed out that after 18 games ( out of 29), he only had 15 attemps at rim on set defense.



But that's not why he was not projected to be lottery pick. Scouts weren't that high on him because of defense. You can't play him at SG because he does not have latheral quickness to defend smaller players, has bad habbit of standing out of defensive stence on defenes and easly gets passed by players who can beat him off dribble.

If you put him at SF, he doesn't have physicality nor strenght to defend nba SFs and once again his lack of latheral mobility comes to play. One of funny things he got credited for on defense, at college, was "contesting shot from behind" ... Well.. how execlly he ended up contesting so many shots from behind? Because he got thrown out of position. Not to mention in nba, most elite offensive players (like Harden, Trae) anticipate contact from behind, stop and allow defender to touch them to sell foul.


As far as G league goes, you just need to watch DJ Wilson in nba and in Gleague to figure how different level of competition actually is.
IN G league he is Lebron-like. Dude literally looks like he could be allstar in nba. Than you put him in nba and he is average joe and marginal rotation player at best.

Well .... if you're good in the NBA... I HOPE you are good in the G-League. But the inverse is not guaranteed.. and that makes sense. So.... let's wait until the ROOKIE legitimately gets chances in the league and be proud that he is showing signs in the G-League as well. :-)
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