Start Gary Trent Jr.

[PushDaRock]

Oddly quiet for him, seems almost like an after thought. He's shooting 42% from three but getting zero trade buzz on a team where almost everyone is available.

[Rapsfan07]

Would look really hard at moving him this deadline if the offer is good.

If not, that's okay. Keep him until the offseason and let him expire.

[Thaddy]

He's on fire.

Last 24 games:
27.4 MIN, 13.5 PPG, .467 FG, .481 3PT, .613 TS

Last 13 games:
27.6 MIN, 14.0 PPG, .500 FG, .512 3PT, .650 TS

As a starter (14 games):
30.1 MIN, 15.0 PPG, .461 FG, .510 3PT, .614 TS

Show his rebounding, passing, and defensive stats. Then you'll see the problem.

I don't think anyone is confusing GTJ for a star by any means.

But ignoring the fact we have a guy shooting 42.2% from 3 (aka - elite) and acting like he sucks because he cant do other things is just weird.

GJT is a fine player to have at the right price. The key being the right price.

Bruv, we've seen this pattern several times. He will shoot well and then completely fall off not too soon later. His prototype isn't it anymore, if you're a shoot only player then you need to be at least 6'8 or bigger to have true impact. I'd take a prospect like Tyler Smith over him 9/10.

[realball]

Really really really wish he'd accept (and thrive) as a spark off the bench.

Being a spark off the bench requires handling the ball. Trent has morphed into 3-pt shooter and not much else. We're better off just giving Dick that role.

We are actually better off by having more than 1 guy on the team that can shoot a 3. Crazy concept.

We're actually better off not paying Trent and getting cheaper players to fill in for him. Cap management, crazy concept.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

He's on fire.

Last 24 games:
27.4 MIN, 13.5 PPG, .467 FG, .481 3PT, .613 TS

Last 13 games:
27.6 MIN, 14.0 PPG, .500 FG, .512 3PT, .650 TS

As a starter (14 games):
30.1 MIN, 15.0 PPG, .461 FG, .510 3PT, .614 TS

Show his rebounding, passing, and defensive stats. Then you'll see the problem.

I don't think anyone is confusing GTJ for a star by any means.

But ignoring the fact we have a guy shooting 42.2% from 3 (aka - elite) and acting like he sucks because he cant do other things is just weird.

GJT is a fine player to have at the right price. The key being the right price.

The right price is a second round pick. Or MLE level contract for 4 years. That’s what I would sign him to right now.

Dude just really inconsistent at every other part of the game.

[positivetension]

Show his rebounding, passing, and defensive stats. Then you'll see the problem.

I don't think anyone is confusing GTJ for a star by any means.

But ignoring the fact we have a guy shooting 42.2% from 3 (aka - elite) and acting like he sucks because he cant do other things is just weird.

GJT is a fine player to have at the right price. The key being the right price.

The right price is a second round pick. Or MLE level contract for 4 years. That’s what I would sign him to right now.

Dude just really inconsistent at every other part of the game.

I was thinking something similar for his contract. I'd be happy to see him back at 4/60.

[DelAbbot]

Damn, everyone wants him gone. What happened to the GTJ is a young Bradley Beal comparisons?

[ItsDanger]

I have fond memories of that Trent for Porzingis trade thread where people wanted to keep Trent instead. LOL

[YogurtProducer]

I have fond memories of that Trent for Porzingis trade thread where people wanted to keep Trent instead. LOL

Still would. Kristaps @ 30M a year to play 40-60 games is horrible.

[ItsDanger]

I have fond memories of that Trent for Porzingis trade thread where people wanted to keep Trent instead. LOL

Still would. Kristaps @ 30M a year to play 40-60 games is horrible.

80 games of Trent is what's really horrible.

[YogurtProducer]

Show his rebounding, passing, and defensive stats. Then you'll see the problem.

I don't think anyone is confusing GTJ for a star by any means.

But ignoring the fact we have a guy shooting 42.2% from 3 (aka - elite) and acting like he sucks because he cant do other things is just weird.

GJT is a fine player to have at the right price. The key being the right price.

Bruv, we've seen this pattern several times. He will shoot well and then completely fall off not too soon later. His prototype isn't it anymore, if you're a shoot only player then you need to be at least 6'8 or bigger to have true impact. I'd take a prospect like Tyler Smith over him 9/10.

That is literally what you get with high volume 3 point shooters. Lowry, FVV, Danny Green, etc. all had similar up and down stretches with their scoring coming and going. That is what those kind of players bring to the table when the 3 is 50% of your attempts.

GTJ as a guy who hits 40% of his 3's (from above the break which is huge to an offense) is a valuable player for any team. He is not a plus defender but he is not a negative either which is value in itself as well.

Saying his "prototype is not it" makes zero sense. A high volume 3 point shooter who hits an elite rate of 3's is always going to have value in the NBA You hope as the team improves you can limit his non 3-point attempts as well which would bring some increased offensive efficiency.

[YogurtProducer]

I have fond memories of that Trent for Porzingis trade thread where people wanted to keep Trent instead. LOL

Still would. Kristaps @ 30M a year to play 40-60 games is horrible.

80 games of Trent is what's really horrible.

You guys are so out of touch with reality of what kind of players are out there.

Don't worry - I look forward to you telling us next November who we should have signed 4 months prior. Until then - I expect your usual passive aggressive posts with no substance to them.

[ItsDanger]

Still would. Kristaps @ 30M a year to play 40-60 games is horrible.

80 games of Trent is what's really horrible.

You guys are so out of touch with reality of what kind of players are out there.

Don't worry - I look forward to you telling us next November who we should have signed 4 months prior. Until then - I expect your usual passive aggressive posts with no substance to them.

I take it you wanted to keep Trent over a Porzingis. And I never wanted Trent from the start and posted often about it BEFORE. So your reply makes zero sense like usual.

[Hero_Panda]

I don't think anyone is confusing GTJ for a star by any means.

But ignoring the fact we have a guy shooting 42.2% from 3 (aka - elite) and acting like he sucks because he cant do other things is just weird.

GJT is a fine player to have at the right price. The key being the right price.

Bruv, we've seen this pattern several times. He will shoot well and then completely fall off not too soon later. His prototype isn't it anymore, if you're a shoot only player then you need to be at least 6'8 or bigger to have true impact. I'd take a prospect like Tyler Smith over him 9/10.

That is literally what you get with high volume 3 point shooters. Lowry, FVV, Danny Green, etc. all had similar up and down stretches with their scoring coming and going. That is what those kind of players bring to the table when the 3 is 50% of your attempts.

GTJ as a guy who hits 40% of his 3's (from above the break which is huge to an offense) is a valuable player for any team. He is not a plus defender but he is not a negative either which is value in itself as well.

Saying his "prototype is not it" makes zero sense. A high volume 3 point shooter who hits an elite rate of 3's is always going to have value in the NBA You hope as the team improves you can limit his non 3-point attempts as well which would bring some increased offensive efficiency.

I wish Trent was like Danny Green, being able to not be a black hole on offense and contributes greatly on the defensive end, whether it be defending his assignment one-on-one or being in the right positions.

I get that Trent is having his best year at shooting the 3. But if that's all he's providing, I'd rather have Nwora out there, who hustles more and has the length to be a better defender.

[YogurtProducer]

Bruv, we've seen this pattern several times. He will shoot well and then completely fall off not too soon later. His prototype isn't it anymore, if you're a shoot only player then you need to be at least 6'8 or bigger to have true impact. I'd take a prospect like Tyler Smith over him 9/10.

That is literally what you get with high volume 3 point shooters. Lowry, FVV, Danny Green, etc. all had similar up and down stretches with their scoring coming and going. That is what those kind of players bring to the table when the 3 is 50% of your attempts.

GTJ as a guy who hits 40% of his 3's (from above the break which is huge to an offense) is a valuable player for any team. He is not a plus defender but he is not a negative either which is value in itself as well.

Saying his "prototype is not it" makes zero sense. A high volume 3 point shooter who hits an elite rate of 3's is always going to have value in the NBA You hope as the team improves you can limit his non 3-point attempts as well which would bring some increased offensive efficiency.

I wish Trent was like Danny Green, being able to not be a black hole on offense and contributes greatly on the defensive end, whether it be defending his assignment one-on-one or being in the right positions.

I get that Trent is having his best year at shooting the 3. But if that's all he's providing, I'd rather have Nwora out there, who hustles more and has the length to be a better defender.

I mean the hope is the talent around GTJ grows to the point you can play him like Danny Green where his only role is 3 point shooting with worse defense. That kind of player has value - not 25M a year value but rotational player value.

Imagine GTJ playing with Luka or LBJ or someone who got him a thousand open shots a night

[LBJKB24MJ23]

That is literally what you get with high volume 3 point shooters. Lowry, FVV, Danny Green, etc. all had similar up and down stretches with their scoring coming and going. That is what those kind of players bring to the table when the 3 is 50% of your attempts.

GTJ as a guy who hits 40% of his 3's (from above the break which is huge to an offense) is a valuable player for any team. He is not a plus defender but he is not a negative either which is value in itself as well.

Saying his "prototype is not it" makes zero sense. A high volume 3 point shooter who hits an elite rate of 3's is always going to have value in the NBA You hope as the team improves you can limit his non 3-point attempts as well which would bring some increased offensive efficiency.

I wish Trent was like Danny Green, being able to not be a black hole on offense and contributes greatly on the defensive end, whether it be defending his assignment one-on-one or being in the right positions.

I get that Trent is having his best year at shooting the 3. But if that's all he's providing, I'd rather have Nwora out there, who hustles more and has the length to be a better defender.

I mean the hope is the talent around GTJ grows to the point you can play him like Danny Green where his only role is 3 point shooting with worse defense. That kind of player has value - not 25M a year value but rotational player value.

Imagine GTJ playing with Luka or LBJ or someone who got him a thousand open shots a night

Well first off if we had that type of player, this team wouldn’t be bad and we’d just be complaining that GTJ is ONLY a 40% 3 point shooter.

I’m sure just like any role player, they would look better with someone who is the focus of their defense every possession while role players like GTJ and McDaniels or Brown would look amazing because they’d be the last option on the floor with almost no pressure.

Now we are just exposed to how bad role players can be when defenses can somewhat focus on them now .

[WiggOuts]

At this point his price should be way down. I say keep him on a team friendly deal, can't have too much shooting

He was never going to become some all star caliber player, a 3pt specialist is still useful

[Randle McMurphy]

At this point his price should be way down. I say keep him on a team friendly deal, can't have too much shooting

He was never going to become some all star caliber player, a 3pt specialist is still useful

He’d certainly help us lose games next year, which could be useful.

[Chandan]

At this point his price should be way down. I say keep him on a team friendly deal, can't have too much shooting

He was never going to become some all star caliber player, a 3pt specialist is still useful

He’d certainly help us lose games next year, which could be useful.

He's doing his job as a 3 point specialist. yeah he could be better, but at his best, he definitely can win some games for you.

[RoteSchroder]

Oddly quiet for him, seems almost like an after thought. He's shooting 42% from three but getting zero trade buzz on a team where almost everyone is available.

Too much of a one trick pony that is looking for a big contract in the off-season that many teams may not want to pay.

FO/GTJr messed up by trying to improve his on ball game. He should have been working on movement shooting all this time, i.e. shooting coming off off-ball screens.