Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[zoyathedestroya]

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In all honesty, the probably do have enough. They could win a title without any changes. Its tough to upgrade a team who has a solid top 8 the way the C's do, especially considering the limited salary flexibility they have in terms of tradable contracts. I'm sure they'll try anyway.

Yeah. I don't think that we make any changes, outside of Converting Queta.
But, I do have a Question. Why did we sign these Reserves, if we're not using them; save for Brissett (occasionally)?

Banton - Mykhailiuk - Brissett - Stevens

That's just how the NBA works. Every team typically plays 8-10 guys any given game. We've been relatively (and thankfully) healthy all season. Some end of roster guys just won't get the light of day unless it's a blowout (we've had a few). Teams also need bodies for practice/scrimmages apart from being emergency depth.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

Staying Pat! I hope we trade Mazzulla for second round pick!

[zoyathedestroya]

Staying Pat! I hope we trade Mazzulla for second round pick!

Aron Baynes for playing coach.

[Parliament10]

Staying Pat! I hope we trade Mazzulla for second round pick!

I Agree that we're staying Pat.
Mazzulla ain't going nowhere, this year anyway.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

We need to upgrade our bench! Not liking how Mazzulla does t call time out and burning out our starters out! By playoffs our starters will be drained out. We need good quality players off the bench! So **** the owners let them pay The luxury tax and upgrade! Our team ain’t strong yet

[keevsnick1]

How come we give up the first when we get the lesser players and the Warriors turn Wiggins into Kuzma and Allen. Seems like a home run for the Warriors.

It's a home run for everybody. Brad gets the 4-5 future second rounders he was going to trade that first round pick for anyways plus a couple depth guys for the bench, one who could be a quality bench big for a few years if they can retain him.

I can definitely see Brad Trading that 30th Pick, for several 2nd Rounders.

I would like to, at some point, actually see Brad make a first round pick. This team is going to need to find young guys on rookie contracts that can contribute given the financial crunch coming in the next few years.

White has only 1.5 years left on his deal, Horford is old and has only 1.5 years. Hauser has 1.5 years. Jrue can be a free agent this summer. Brown has his max deal, Tatum will get his. This team will be VERY expensive.

Getting a guy on a cheap 4 year deal who is in the rotation would be huge for this team. Now maybe you can do that with second rounders, Walsh looks promising, but they shouldn't be pushing too far into the future. Have to start developing guys with this next draft.

[BK_2020]

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In all honesty, the probably do have enough. They could win a title without any changes. Its tough to upgrade a team who has a solid top 8 the way the C's do, especially considering the limited salary flexibility they have in terms of tradable contracts. I'm sure they'll try anyway.

Yeah. I don't think that we make any changes, outside of Converting Queta.
But, I do have a Question. Why did we sign these Reserves, if we're not using them; save for Brissett (occasionally)?

Banton - Mykhailiuk - Brissett - Stevens

Because we have 15 roster slots and we have to carry at least 14 players.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

Staying Pat! I hope we trade Mazzulla for second round pick!

Aron Baynes for playing coach.

We don’t want stone cold Steve Austin coming out no where give him a stunner! He will end up in the hospital again

[zoyathedestroya]

The Second Round Exception included in the new CBA would be very helpful for the Cs in retaining cost-controlled prospects. Previously, teams needed cap space or to use portion of the MLE to signed second rounders to contracts lasting more than two seasons. Since we won't have cap space and most likely no MLE too next season, we'd still be able to sign our second rounder(s) to four-year deals.

[Hal14]

These are the guys Brad has traded for as POBO:

Porzingis
Horford
J-rich
Theis
D-white
Muscala
Jrue
Brogdon

What do they have in common?

1) All between age 27-35 at the time they were traded here, with at least 4 yrs of NBA experience under their belts
2) None were half season rentals
3) They can all shoot the 3 (all had at least 1 season above league average from 3 + another season pretty darn close to league average from 3)

Who are some guys who fit that criteria and fit in the TPE?

-Jevon Carter
-John Konchar
-Dean Wade
-Kenrich Williams

[BK_2020]

It's a home run for everybody. Brad gets the 4-5 future second rounders he was going to trade that first round pick for anyways plus a couple depth guys for the bench, one who could be a quality bench big for a few years if they can retain him.

I can definitely see Brad Trading that 30th Pick, for several 2nd Rounders.

I would like to, at some point, actually see Brad make a first round pick. This team is going to need to find young guys on rookie contracts that can contribute given the financial crunch coming in the next few years.

White has only 1.5 years left on his deal, Horford is old and has only 1.5 years. Hauser has 1.5 years. Jrue can be a free agent this summer. Brown has his max deal, Tatum will get his. This team will be VERY expensive.

Getting a guy on a cheap 4 year deal who is in the rotation would be huge for this team. Now maybe you can do that with second rounders, Walsh looks promising, but they shouldn't be pushing too far into the future. Have to start developing guys with this next draft.

Demetrius Jackson's salary comes off the books soon, though.

[keevsnick1]

In all honesty, the probably do have enough. They could win a title without any changes. Its tough to upgrade a team who has a solid top 8 the way the C's do, especially considering the limited salary flexibility they have in terms of tradable contracts. I'm sure they'll try anyway.

Yeah. I don't think that we make any changes, outside of Converting Queta.
But, I do have a Question. Why did we sign these Reserves, if we're not using them; save for Brissett (occasionally)?

Banton - Mykhailiuk - Brissett - Stevens

Because we have 15 roster slots and we have to carry at least 14 players.

If you have any question why the NBA has 15 roster spots just look at the Memphis Grizzlies.

Celtics top 8 have been pretty healthy this year all things considered, but that doesn't always happen.

[BK_2020]

Drew Peterson is putting up 16-6-4 in the G-league, shooting 43% from the three on good volume. I wonder if we'll see more of him in March and April.

[Parliament10]

It's a home run for everybody. Brad gets the 4-5 future second rounders he was going to trade that first round pick for anyways plus a couple depth guys for the bench, one who could be a quality bench big for a few years if they can retain him.

I can definitely see Brad Trading that 30th Pick, for several 2nd Rounders.

I would like to, at some point, actually see Brad make a first round pick. This team is going to need to find young guys on rookie contracts that can contribute given the financial crunch coming in the next few years.

White has only 1.5 years left on his deal, Horford is old and has only 1.5 years. Hauser has 1.5 years. Jrue can be a free agent this summer. Brown has his max deal, Tatum will get his. This team will be VERY expensive.

Getting a guy on a cheap 4 year deal who is in the rotation would be huge for this team. Now maybe you can do that with second rounders, Walsh looks promising, but they shouldn't be pushing too far into the future. Have to start developing guys with this next draft.

I think that the reasoning is that we'd be pegged in on salary with a 1st Rounder.
The new 2nd Round Pick Exception, allows them to go 4 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#:~:text=The%202023%20CBA%20created%20the,Kings%20when%20they%20signed%20No.

The 2023 CBA created the second-round pick exception which allows teams to sign their second-round draft picks for up to four years without counting against the cap until July 31 of the player's first season.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Parliament10]

Yeah. I don't think that we make any changes, outside of Converting Queta.
But, I do have a Question. Why did we sign these Reserves, if we're not using them; save for Brissett (occasionally)?

Banton - Mykhailiuk - Brissett - Stevens

Because we have 15 roster slots and we have to carry at least 14 players.

If you have any question why the NBA has 15 roster spots just look at the Memphis Grizzlies.

Celtics top 8 have been pretty healthy this year all things considered, but that doesn't always happen.

Good point.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

Can we trade owners ?

[Parliament10]

The Second Round Exception included in the new CBA would be very helpful for the Cs in retaining cost-controlled prospects. Previously, teams needed cap space or to use portion of the MLE to signed second rounders to contracts lasting more than two seasons. Since we won't have cap space and most likely no MLE too next season, we'd still be able to sign our second rounder(s) to four-year deals.

Yes. I think that we have 2 x 2nd Rounders, ATM.
I can see Brad getting 1 or 2 more, this year. And also, stockpiling 2nds for Future Collateral.

[Captain_Caveman]

Celts have needed another bench player all year long, and it will be even more acute after other contenders improve this week. I wanted Kuminga, but that ship is sailing away. Saric? I guess.

[keevsnick1]

I can definitely see Brad Trading that 30th Pick, for several 2nd Rounders.

I would like to, at some point, actually see Brad make a first round pick. This team is going to need to find young guys on rookie contracts that can contribute given the financial crunch coming in the next few years.

White has only 1.5 years left on his deal, Horford is old and has only 1.5 years. Hauser has 1.5 years. Jrue can be a free agent this summer. Brown has his max deal, Tatum will get his. This team will be VERY expensive.

Getting a guy on a cheap 4 year deal who is in the rotation would be huge for this team. Now maybe you can do that with second rounders, Walsh looks promising, but they shouldn't be pushing too far into the future. Have to start developing guys with this next draft.

I think that the reasoning is that we'd be pegged in on salary with a 1st Rounder.
The new 2nd Round Pick Exception, allows them to go 4 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#:~:text=The%202023%20CBA%20created%20the,Kings%20when%20they%20signed%20No.

The 2023 CBA created the second-round pick exception which allows teams to sign their second-round draft picks for up to four years without counting against the cap until July 31 of the player's first season.

The difference in salary between a 30th pick and second rounders in the 30's isn't really that big. 30th pick starts at around 2 million, which is about the same as a vet min contract and about the same as what many early 30's 2nd round picks will sign for.

The other issue is future second rounds picks are... in the future. They need cheep contributors sooner, rather than later. And they KNOW the 30th pick will be the 30th pick, they don't know where a bunch of future seconds will end up.

Unless they use it on somebody who will actually player in the playoffs they should keep it and draft somebody.